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I love their spin on words. No there hasn't been a cut back in capacity to Singapore, it's actually a 40% increase *in dedicated capacity*. These guys will make excellent politicians after they drive Qantas into the dirt. Their futures are secure at least.
90%+ load factors and can't make money, remember that...
Jetstar 70% load factors to Japan and heavily discounted fares almost all the time and it makes heaps, remember that...
Jetstar 70% load factors to Japan and heavily discounted fares almost all the time and it makes heaps, remember that...
A DECISION by Qantas to end its international flights out of Adelaide is a "sick joke" on South Australians, independent Senator Nick Xenophon says.
Senator Xenophon says the decision would force those people travelling on Qantas international flights to travel first to another state.
"Qantas's senior management assured me in September last year that the Adelaide-Singapore service was safe - that assurance has been broken," he said.
"Why is it that other countries' airlines fly in and out of Adelaide over 80 times a week - yet our national carrier is now abandoning South Australia on international routes?"
Qantas currently operates Adelaide to Singapore services three times a week but announced on Monday that they would stop at the end of March.
Senator Xenophon says the decision would force those people travelling on Qantas international flights to travel first to another state.
"Qantas's senior management assured me in September last year that the Adelaide-Singapore service was safe - that assurance has been broken," he said.
"Why is it that other countries' airlines fly in and out of Adelaide over 80 times a week - yet our national carrier is now abandoning South Australia on international routes?"
Qantas currently operates Adelaide to Singapore services three times a week but announced on Monday that they would stop at the end of March.
Read more: Senator critical of Qantas changes | News.com.au
Senior management assured me
Now the good senator knows how the QANTAS staff feel.
Summary:
SYD-HKG - reduction of 4 services per week to 7.
SYD-SIN - reduction of 3 services to eventually 14 (11 initially)
BNE-HKG - increase of 3 services per week to 7
PER-SIN - reduction of 7 services per week to 7
PER-HKG - reduction of 3 services per week to 0
ADL-SIN - reduction of 3 services per week to 0
Yep, look like a real improvement to the international network?
SYD-HKG - reduction of 4 services per week to 7.
SYD-SIN - reduction of 3 services to eventually 14 (11 initially)
BNE-HKG - increase of 3 services per week to 7
PER-SIN - reduction of 7 services per week to 7
PER-HKG - reduction of 3 services per week to 0
ADL-SIN - reduction of 3 services per week to 0
Yep, look like a real improvement to the international network?
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SIN-SYD will operate 4 weekly from Apr to Jun before going daily, as SQ operates the route 4 daily.
QF's SINPER leaves at 1725, which means the famed business traffic would need to leave the city at 3pm (okay, 3.45pm if you push it since SIN has wonderful road infrastructure) to catch that flight. With SQ offering 4 flights a day SINPER, QF will catch the low yielding holiday traffic for June and December, god knows how they'll fill the plane the other 10 months of the year.
SQ's SINADL year round 12 weekly service probably killed QF's 3 weekly SINADL. And with SINMEL at a single daily compared to SQ's soon to be 4 daily, one wonders why QF even tries to compete.
QF's SINPER leaves at 1725, which means the famed business traffic would need to leave the city at 3pm (okay, 3.45pm if you push it since SIN has wonderful road infrastructure) to catch that flight. With SQ offering 4 flights a day SINPER, QF will catch the low yielding holiday traffic for June and December, god knows how they'll fill the plane the other 10 months of the year.
SQ's SINADL year round 12 weekly service probably killed QF's 3 weekly SINADL. And with SINMEL at a single daily compared to SQ's soon to be 4 daily, one wonders why QF even tries to compete.
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How long until Jetstar announces its Singapore based A330 operation will be flying a daily Singapore - Perth and Singapore - Adelaide service due to heavy demand on the routes?
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Qantas currently operates Adelaide to Singapore services three times a week but announced on Monday that they would stop at the end of March.
Not surprising, considering what happens on April 1.
Expect EK via BKK/ KUL/ SIN or somewhere up there into ADL and the rest of Oz. EK still have 4 daily slots to use in either BNE/SYD/MEL and they can go unlimited elsewhere in the country.
I have absolutely no idea if this is true, just thinking out aloud, but this latest announcement is hardly more that a coincidence.
Not surprising, considering what happens on April 1.
Expect EK via BKK/ KUL/ SIN or somewhere up there into ADL and the rest of Oz. EK still have 4 daily slots to use in either BNE/SYD/MEL and they can go unlimited elsewhere in the country.
I have absolutely no idea if this is true, just thinking out aloud, but this latest announcement is hardly more that a coincidence.
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Meanwhile Etihad also produce profit growth, passenger growth and positive stuff. When are the QF shareholders going to wake up to the fact that they need a board/management team who will manage the damn airline not sell or give away the family heirlooms.
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Etihad made $42m on $4.8bn revenue -- that is 0.88% margin -- not exactly strong.
Throw higher tax rates, higher commercial borrowing rates, lower depreciation rates on aircraft, higher airport charges in home hub, and I suspect Etihad is loss making, even ignoring any labour differences.
Throw higher tax rates, higher commercial borrowing rates, lower depreciation rates on aircraft, higher airport charges in home hub, and I suspect Etihad is loss making, even ignoring any labour differences.
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In todays Travel Daily -
"QF mull London reduction
QANTAS has told regulators in NZ it is considering dropping one of its double daily services to London should it be unable to gain approval to form a joint venture with a “mid-point carrier”.
What’s more, the Australian flag carrier suggests shelving all flights to Europe in the long-term. In a joint 116-page application to the New Zealand Ministry of
Transport, Qantas and Emirates said their proposed conduct “is a measured and balanced response to the economic realities of the highly dynamic and competitive international aviation industry.”
QF reiterated that “mid-point carriers” - those with hubs in Singapore, Hong Kong, Middle
East or locations in China - “have an immediate and significant geographic advantage over endof-line carriers like Qantas International” because they have access to hundreds of millions of consumers in a nearby proximity.
The lengthy document, submitted in Sep last year, outlines the range of public benefits to be derived through the alliance, including increased tourism, enhanced customer experiences & products and Qantas fare reductions.
QF said “numerous reasons” had previously prevented pacts with other mid-point carriers, such as Singapore Airlines, Cathay Pacific and Malaysia Airlines, which has resulted in QF Int’l “continuing to lose money and contract.”
Qantas has already confirmed it will cease services on the “loss - making” Frankfurt route, one of its three daily European options.
However, the application to the NZ MOT goes further, saying, “absent the ability to coordinate with one of the mid-point carriers [namely EK], Qantas International’s current European network will contract further, with the possible withdrawal of one of the daily London services in the short term.
“In the long-term, Qantas Int’l will only invest in new aircraft & operate to those ports where it can make an appropriate return on capital - this will not include Europe,” the document states.
Since the application was filed, QF/EK won a Draft Determination from the ACCC in favour of the pact, excluding trans-Tasman ops."
"QF mull London reduction
QANTAS has told regulators in NZ it is considering dropping one of its double daily services to London should it be unable to gain approval to form a joint venture with a “mid-point carrier”.
What’s more, the Australian flag carrier suggests shelving all flights to Europe in the long-term. In a joint 116-page application to the New Zealand Ministry of
Transport, Qantas and Emirates said their proposed conduct “is a measured and balanced response to the economic realities of the highly dynamic and competitive international aviation industry.”
QF reiterated that “mid-point carriers” - those with hubs in Singapore, Hong Kong, Middle
East or locations in China - “have an immediate and significant geographic advantage over endof-line carriers like Qantas International” because they have access to hundreds of millions of consumers in a nearby proximity.
The lengthy document, submitted in Sep last year, outlines the range of public benefits to be derived through the alliance, including increased tourism, enhanced customer experiences & products and Qantas fare reductions.
QF said “numerous reasons” had previously prevented pacts with other mid-point carriers, such as Singapore Airlines, Cathay Pacific and Malaysia Airlines, which has resulted in QF Int’l “continuing to lose money and contract.”
Qantas has already confirmed it will cease services on the “loss - making” Frankfurt route, one of its three daily European options.
However, the application to the NZ MOT goes further, saying, “absent the ability to coordinate with one of the mid-point carriers [namely EK], Qantas International’s current European network will contract further, with the possible withdrawal of one of the daily London services in the short term.
“In the long-term, Qantas Int’l will only invest in new aircraft & operate to those ports where it can make an appropriate return on capital - this will not include Europe,” the document states.
Since the application was filed, QF/EK won a Draft Determination from the ACCC in favour of the pact, excluding trans-Tasman ops."
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This article is nothing new. Alan Joyce has always carried on about cancelling european services or any other service if he doesn't get his own way. Tantrum here, tantrum there, have bit of a dummy spit, thats his thing.
He behaves like a spoilt little child.
He behaves like a spoilt little child.
Hi there
Did a search on qantas.co.uk for flight from Dubai to Heathrow on 04 Apr 13, eventually worked out how to do it as the website does not list Dubai as a valid origin or destination.
The fare was £166 (A$254) including taxes and fuel fines etc.
According to QF, PAX ex AUS (ie SYD & MEL) will transfer to EK Euro flights in DXB, so the seats vacated by these PAX are being given away at rock bottom prices on the DXB-LHR sector.
Can't see QF serving LHR in the long term, QF flights ex MEL & SYD will end up as DXB terminators.
Think i'll just stick to Emirates or Etihad
Cheers
DJ737
Did a search on qantas.co.uk for flight from Dubai to Heathrow on 04 Apr 13, eventually worked out how to do it as the website does not list Dubai as a valid origin or destination.
The fare was £166 (A$254) including taxes and fuel fines etc.
According to QF, PAX ex AUS (ie SYD & MEL) will transfer to EK Euro flights in DXB, so the seats vacated by these PAX are being given away at rock bottom prices on the DXB-LHR sector.
Can't see QF serving LHR in the long term, QF flights ex MEL & SYD will end up as DXB terminators.
Think i'll just stick to Emirates or Etihad
Cheers
DJ737
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Katter pushes laws to keep Qantas in Australia
Katter pushes laws to keep Qantas in Australia
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Qantas Employee Campaign
A few years ago when Old Scrotum Face was still running the show QF employees began the FOG campaign.As we all know he did.
The new Campaign has the acronym of GROW...Get Rid Of Wally
The new Campaign has the acronym of GROW...Get Rid Of Wally