Qantas Engineering redundances - Advice required!!!
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Or dont work overtime, show the company that they cant even keep the operation working, even without forced redundancies. And then maybe, just maybe they might have to question their numbers!
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A the end of the day mate, everybody has to make their own choice. However the only way to make progress here is to ensure Qantas knows you exist. That means they absolutely need to feel it when you are not there regardless of the need for overtime. If one fails on that point you lose everything.
It is very simple Ewan and if your butt can't stop twitching, plug it until this is all over.
It is very simple Ewan and if your butt can't stop twitching, plug it until this is all over.
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Like I said,go and talk to Brissy Heavy guys.If they do no O/T, planes goes out late,lose the work,lose their jobs.I am not twitching ABAT.Seen it all before.The only ones twitching are the bully boys who are about to lose their Qantas"job for life".Make hay while the sun shines I say.
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It's the past that was destroyed that has caused the current problems of today. NEVER FORGET!!!
Ain't that the truth. Those who ignore the errors of the past are destined to repeat those same errors going forward into the future. Just look at the havoc that Geoff, James, the Wespac chick, Alan, and the polka dotted tie wearing engineering clown have wreaked on the once fine Flag carrier to drag it down to a shadow of its former self.
It's a far cry from the place it was when I did my B707, JT3D, and Extension "A" E & I training there in the 70s.
Good luck to ya all, hang tough, and fight the good fight.
Regards, Big E.
Ain't that the truth. Those who ignore the errors of the past are destined to repeat those same errors going forward into the future. Just look at the havoc that Geoff, James, the Wespac chick, Alan, and the polka dotted tie wearing engineering clown have wreaked on the once fine Flag carrier to drag it down to a shadow of its former self.
It's a far cry from the place it was when I did my B707, JT3D, and Extension "A" E & I training there in the 70s.
Good luck to ya all, hang tough, and fight the good fight.
Regards, Big E.
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I would say 99% of the guys on my crew don't believe it is going to make 1 ounce of difference in saving most of the jobs.
Quite the opposite,if no one does O/T,would the bean counters not look at that port/work area,and deem that they must be overstaffed.
And no,I am not burying my head in the sand,this is the new reality,things are changing rapidly and even if the engineering is being run into the ground,there really is nothing you can do.(ie they shut the bloody airline down last time it got tough...don't you remember)
Its time to move on 1me,no one outside of QANTAS really cares about working in the rain at 2am during winter.You chose this industry,I chose this industry.I am going to stick with it as long as I can.And if that means adapting to change,then that is what I will do.
Will we see you at the meeting on Wednesday?
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Originally Posted by silverado
Or dont work overtime, show the company that they cant even keep the operation working, even without forced redundancies. And then maybe, just maybe they might have to question their numbers!
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Well I guess I left in this VR for the right reasons. I could see what was going to happen and did not want to be a part of it. They are dividing and conquering, they have got the internal bickering going.
Am so glad to have walked away and saw none of it because without doubt this crap is going to ruin careers and most of all, the friendships that are made when you work with guys 20+ years.
Remember that is much easier to beat a team of individuals than it is to beat a team of players!
Stick together guys and remember many of you will be around a lot longer than any of the management.
Am so glad to have walked away and saw none of it because without doubt this crap is going to ruin careers and most of all, the friendships that are made when you work with guys 20+ years.
Remember that is much easier to beat a team of individuals than it is to beat a team of players!
Stick together guys and remember many of you will be around a lot longer than any of the management.
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1me,this airline has 120+ jets.They will shuffle the oustanding work around the network and it will get done with or without O/T.You wont even realise you are doing it.Like I said,good blokes will lose their job and that is sad but hey maybe we are overstaffed,with full MOD around the corner,blokes clambering over each other for B1 training you must be naive to believe the current LAME numbers are going to stay the same.Hey here is an idea,say no to any future aircraft B1 type training .That will save more jobs than people not doin O/T.Union reps take note.Make a stand and show your fellows LAMES how its done.
Knock the training back............I know they or you couldnt do......could you.
Knock the training back............I know they or you couldnt do......could you.
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Romulus your point about being ineffective and shutting it down, I hope you are not onto something there.
But the way things are, we might be playing the game they want us to play. A workforce resistant to the change they want ,its too hard for them. So they bring in the third party provider, the only qantas paid engineers will be the guys in MOC and tech services.
I do remember Uncle Geoff telling us a few years ago that there were 100,000 chinese engineers who would love to do our work.
He had a way with words, so inspirational.
But the way things are, we might be playing the game they want us to play. A workforce resistant to the change they want ,its too hard for them. So they bring in the third party provider, the only qantas paid engineers will be the guys in MOC and tech services.
I do remember Uncle Geoff telling us a few years ago that there were 100,000 chinese engineers who would love to do our work.
He had a way with words, so inspirational.
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Can't outsource our jobs.WTF is Brissy heavy then?And while I am now on something Fedsec,nice QANTAS tie up with the EK hub for the 380 maintenance happening as we speak.You know it is going to happen.
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Why not?
Happens every day in businesses around the country, aviation is no different.
Happens every day in businesses around the country, aviation is no different.
And EWANQF you haven't answered my question.. will you be attending the meeting on Wednesday?