Qantas Engineering redundances - Advice required!!!
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No money in freight
Feel free to add to the list, I could use a laugh
I don't have the time to sit and compile a huge list, but it ain't rocket science.
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I admit that avv is a different scenario, and I really do feel for
the forestaff guys, however these 2 individuals just kept coming in, despite
Styles adiment that there was no position for them. They were the last 2 people in the 245 smoko room. Everyone else had either left or started there relocated jobs and low and behold they are still working with us today.
Lung it out as long as possible, appeal do whatever and in this place you never know what could happen.
I hear we are not getting rid of as many 744,s now. Turns out we may need them.
My mate in planning tells me that they and MOC all got told today that they
could take the package if they wanted to.
the forestaff guys, however these 2 individuals just kept coming in, despite
Styles adiment that there was no position for them. They were the last 2 people in the 245 smoko room. Everyone else had either left or started there relocated jobs and low and behold they are still working with us today.
Lung it out as long as possible, appeal do whatever and in this place you never know what could happen.
I hear we are not getting rid of as many 744,s now. Turns out we may need them.
My mate in planning tells me that they and MOC all got told today that they
could take the package if they wanted to.
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On that note let's take 5 and reflect on some of our managements triumphs
A380
Lean sigma
No money in freight
Old technology 777's
Maintnex
Giving away contracts
Qantas #13 on safest airline list.
Closing heavy
Selling off our spares
Feel free to add to the list, I could use a laugh
A380
Lean sigma
No money in freight
Old technology 777's
Maintnex
Giving away contracts
Qantas #13 on safest airline list.
Closing heavy
Selling off our spares
Feel free to add to the list, I could use a laugh
Turning a blind eye to quality at Asian MROs
Sponsoring IASA and now Panasonic
Choosing Rockwell Collins as the IFE product
Strategy maps - Red then Blue
Oh the tree hugging
Operations Managers
Reconfiguring A330s and A380s AFTER delivery
Shutting down Engine overhaul
Shutting down Workshops
Saving millions (not) on APU fuel usage
Convenient Safety Beliefs
Denigrating our profession
And the Lies, lies and lies.
Let's not stop here.
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Offices full of workers with pet projects that amount to
not alot. Layers upon layers of middle management & empire builders .
not alot. Layers upon layers of middle management & empire builders .
When the workers are gone your NEXT your time is coming sooner than you think .
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HERALD SUN FRIDAY
VICTORIA will host the Australian International Airshow for at least another decade in a big win for jobs and the aviation sector.
Big win for jobs and the aviation sector BULLS*&T
Avalon sacking people everyday
VICTORIA will host the Australian International Airshow for at least another decade in a big win for jobs and the aviation sector.
Big win for jobs and the aviation sector BULLS*&T
Avalon sacking people everyday
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Jethro Gibbs
Jethro,
For Christ sake, quit with the negative whinging. So you are in a bad position; well you're not the only one (and yes, I am amongst them). Attacking everyone and everything, including some who are trying to help you at a time when no one else will is wearing real thin.
Pull your head in.
For Christ sake, quit with the negative whinging. So you are in a bad position; well you're not the only one (and yes, I am amongst them). Attacking everyone and everything, including some who are trying to help you at a time when no one else will is wearing real thin.
Pull your head in.
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Domo - Job Share
Job Share is different to a part time position - covered by the transition to retirement clause.
Job share - 2 people agree to work the roster of one full time employee. They can cover that position any way they like e.g. one works days, the other nights; one block on, one block off; 3 months on, 3 months off; etc. As long as the shift is covered.
Part time - company determines when you work subject to minimum hours. Shifts can be as short as 4 hours, split shifts, permanent nights, continually varying, whatever meets companies' requirements.
You can choose which you prefer. I know Job share is my preferred option and part time is the company's preferred option.
Job share - 2 people agree to work the roster of one full time employee. They can cover that position any way they like e.g. one works days, the other nights; one block on, one block off; 3 months on, 3 months off; etc. As long as the shift is covered.
Part time - company determines when you work subject to minimum hours. Shifts can be as short as 4 hours, split shifts, permanent nights, continually varying, whatever meets companies' requirements.
You can choose which you prefer. I know Job share is my preferred option and part time is the company's preferred option.
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My concern with job share is getting retrenched whilst doing the job share . Retrenchment pay will be heaps lower .. Knowing management they would retrench a week after starting...... Heard a rumor supervisors and dmm will be retrenched in the next rounds with a shift coordinator employed .the ops managers to be more proactive in a day to day ops (similar to 380)
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Job share retrenchment
Retrenchment - when it happens, and it will happen for the vast majority - payout is based around an hourly rate of pay. The EBA stipulates that the job share rate of pay is equivalent to the full-time rate of pay.
All other benefits will accrue but on a pro-rata basis i.e. long service will accrue but at half the rate, annual leave ditto, sick leave, etc, etc.
The benefit is that when the A330 reconfig programme starts, EK overnight work, or whatever, job share get first crack at a full-time position if interested. (The present management will not be there forever).
All other benefits will accrue but on a pro-rata basis i.e. long service will accrue but at half the rate, annual leave ditto, sick leave, etc, etc.
The benefit is that when the A330 reconfig programme starts, EK overnight work, or whatever, job share get first crack at a full-time position if interested. (The present management will not be there forever).
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"". The EBA stipulates that the job share rate of pay is equivalent to the full-time rate of pay."" mate I cannot find that , what page is it on??........ I can find retrenchment pay is based on the weekly pay , ie so many weeks pay for years of service.
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Is the ALAEA having a stand at the Avalon Air Show, particularly over the trade days?
Could be a good opportunity to spruik and network for guys looking for employment still within in the industry. Perhaps a demonstration of skills, like the Vegas convention the ALAEA team has been to in recent years.
Could be a good opportunity to spruik and network for guys looking for employment still within in the industry. Perhaps a demonstration of skills, like the Vegas convention the ALAEA team has been to in recent years.
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Is the ALAEA having
a stand at the Avalon Air Show, particularly over the trade days?
Could be
a good opportunity to spruik and network for guys looking for employment still
within in the industry. Perhaps a demonstration of skills, like the Vegas
convention the ALAEA team has been to in recent years.
a stand at the Avalon Air Show, particularly over the trade days?
Could be
a good opportunity to spruik and network for guys looking for employment still
within in the industry. Perhaps a demonstration of skills, like the Vegas
convention the ALAEA team has been to in recent years.
Last time I looked they did not sell any Products and there not an employment agency.
For Christ sake, quit with the negative whinging.
I know I have been criticized in the past for being a dinosaur, but the FACT is in the old days we got things done to OUR advantage. Stand up, or lie down, your choise.
To inject a bit of a reality check.
If they terminate your employment, they switch off you ASIC card's access. If you were to then access an airside area without a legitimate reason you are breaking the law and are likely to be locked up, charged and a black mark put against your name when you next try to get an ASIC card.
I know it was different in the old days, management were a bit nicer because they came from the ranks. These days they're all uni grad career managers that thrive on conflict and have a deep seated hate of workers who get one over them.. They still have the ****s from 2 EBA's ago when D.Cox got the boot shortly afterwards. This is their punishment.
If they terminate your employment, they switch off you ASIC card's access. If you were to then access an airside area without a legitimate reason you are breaking the law and are likely to be locked up, charged and a black mark put against your name when you next try to get an ASIC card.
I know it was different in the old days, management were a bit nicer because they came from the ranks. These days they're all uni grad career managers that thrive on conflict and have a deep seated hate of workers who get one over them.. They still have the ****s from 2 EBA's ago when D.Cox got the boot shortly afterwards. This is their punishment.