Qantas Engineering redundances - Advice required!!!
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As we know, the Concorde fell victim to such a PDA incident from another operator, who may not have applied the vigilance that would have seen this coming.
Inexperienced staff don't see parts that are loose as a LAME would and don't comprehend the dangers of unsecured parts exposed to high speed flight.
Things may SEEM OK at a quick glance, but the experienced eye and knowledge of previous incidents by the LAME cannot be substituted by a baggage handler.
Many LAMES identify such faults,and at risk of a delay to a departing flight, FIX the problem. This usually cops negative feedback from the airline about finding the problem in the first place, even though fixing now saves large amounts of money FOR the airline.
Inexperienced staff don't see parts that are loose as a LAME would and don't comprehend the dangers of unsecured parts exposed to high speed flight.
Things may SEEM OK at a quick glance, but the experienced eye and knowledge of previous incidents by the LAME cannot be substituted by a baggage handler.
Many LAMES identify such faults,and at risk of a delay to a departing flight, FIX the problem. This usually cops negative feedback from the airline about finding the problem in the first place, even though fixing now saves large amounts of money FOR the airline.
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The technical bulletin from Airbus to airlines seems to be aimed at managements that don’t think that frequently used airliners need walk around inspections by trained engineers.
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Something for the Engineering Flyer to answer perhaps?
....I have sent in 5 questions to date, all failed to make the final edition. What a surprise! The propaganda machine runs on one program.
I can feel number 6 coming up but I already know the outcome.
Maybe a few hundred questions on the same issue might get some attention
....I have sent in 5 questions to date, all failed to make the final edition. What a surprise! The propaganda machine runs on one program.
I can feel number 6 coming up but I already know the outcome.
Maybe a few hundred questions on the same issue might get some attention
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Good to the Fed Sec picking up on fatigue management, what happened when this was pointed out to the Association over 5 years ago and again last year.
Nothing!
Oh thats right, no gain to be made of it then. You knew the company was breaking its own rules but did nothing about it.
Is the union trying to cover its back now? Bit late I think.
Yes SAM management also knew they were breaching group policy and finaly brought out there own Fatigue Policy in 2010 which is slightly different to the Group's.
I generally don't work O/T and haven't during this dispute because I enjoy my time at home, but I believe attacking our own members will not help our cause, focus on the company and hold them to account.
Nothing!
Oh thats right, no gain to be made of it then. You knew the company was breaking its own rules but did nothing about it.
Is the union trying to cover its back now? Bit late I think.
Yes SAM management also knew they were breaching group policy and finaly brought out there own Fatigue Policy in 2010 which is slightly different to the Group's.
I generally don't work O/T and haven't during this dispute because I enjoy my time at home, but I believe attacking our own members will not help our cause, focus on the company and hold them to account.
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Nappystain & GH have been on the equivalent of a lottery for quiet a few years now $$$$$$$$$.
Be prepared for some very interesting developments now, many will be shocked and disappointed.
FEDSEC, we hope your arguements are water tight in every respect.
Know Thy Enemy, sounds so simple.
The battle has just began.
Be prepared for some very interesting developments now, many will be shocked and disappointed.
FEDSEC, we hope your arguements are water tight in every respect.
Know Thy Enemy, sounds so simple.
The battle has just began.
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Qantas Engineering redundances - Advice required!!!
Avalon CR's happening right now. Tapped and out the door shortly after. Sad times. Any news on Sydney??
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Redudancy not good to hear
Sorry to hear about the Redundancy Guy's not a good thing at all. Have any unions associations (ALAEA, AWU,AMWU) HAD ANY INPUT FOR TODAY AT ALL.
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Good to the Fed Sec picking up on fatigue management, what happened when this was pointed out to the Association over 5 years ago and again last year.
but I believe attacking our own members
FYI - The ALAEA are raising options for that company to find jobs for people. One of them is to have them follow their own fatigue policy. If they did they would need more people, simple as that. Members of course should be following the policy as well.
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The ALAEA lodged an application for a breach of Agreement against Forstaff
this arvo
Will application for a breach of Agreement against Forstaff stop further action by Forstaff at this time .
Never trust Forstaff .
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Will application for a breach of Agreement against Forstaff stop further action by Forstaff at this time .
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Sydney heavy, tulla heavy gone. Avalon going,
30% from base. Rampies doing tows.
Pretty clear what nasty swines plan for the future is, and
We are not part of it.
Unbelievable thing is that people are making it work
By doing OT.
30% from base. Rampies doing tows.
Pretty clear what nasty swines plan for the future is, and
We are not part of it.
Unbelievable thing is that people are making it work
By doing OT.
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Fed Sec
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Perhaps you should read emails sent to you via the Association and read the repsonse of the President when he sends them out, you would know who.
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Sending out personel SMS's to individuals instead of letting everyone know via a Union notice of their obligations. I think that is bullying and harasment.
No I wasn't the one you sent the SMS to.
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It's good that you are posting vacancies around the globe and exploring all avenues to find jobs and as you say members should follow policy, but which one because as I pointed out SAM policy is different to Group policy, why is that.
If you want further information I can PM the details.
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Who pointed it out 5 years ago and last year? I never heard anything. It's only through the consultation and subsequent research that we have been made aware that Qantas are breaking their own rules.
Perhaps you should read emails sent to you via the Association and read the repsonse of the President when he sends them out, you would know who.
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Who is attacking our members? Apart from management of course.
No I wasn't the one you sent the SMS to.
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FYI - The ALAEA are raising options for that company to find jobs for people. One of them is to have them follow their own fatigue policy. If they did they would need more people, simple as that. Members of course should be following the policy as well.
If you want further information I can PM the details.
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I don't think you quite understand the Fed Secs situation. He calls a wildcat strike and he is in the slammer as well as losing his house.
Furthermore, some of you wouldn't join in anyway, making the effort pointless.
If you are brave, go talk to the CFMEU Boys, and let them advise you.
Furthermore, some of you wouldn't join in anyway, making the effort pointless.
If you are brave, go talk to the CFMEU Boys, and let them advise you.