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Old 12th Feb 2013, 23:09
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As we know, the Concorde fell victim to such a PDA incident from another operator, who may not have applied the vigilance that would have seen this coming.
Inexperienced staff don't see parts that are loose as a LAME would and don't comprehend the dangers of unsecured parts exposed to high speed flight.
Things may SEEM OK at a quick glance, but the experienced eye and knowledge of previous incidents by the LAME cannot be substituted by a baggage handler.

Many LAMES identify such faults,and at risk of a delay to a departing flight, FIX the problem. This usually cops negative feedback from the airline about finding the problem in the first place, even though fixing now saves large amounts of money FOR the airline.
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Old 12th Feb 2013, 23:41
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The technical bulletin from Airbus to airlines seems to be aimed at managements that don’t think that frequently used airliners need walk around inspections by trained engineers.
That is 180 degrees from what Qantas is saying. They reckon, "the manufacturers say new generation aircraft need less maintenance".
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Old 13th Feb 2013, 10:44
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Something for the Engineering Flyer to answer perhaps?
....I have sent in 5 questions to date, all failed to make the final edition. What a surprise! The propaganda machine runs on one program.

I can feel number 6 coming up but I already know the outcome.
Maybe a few hundred questions on the same issue might get some attention

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Old 13th Feb 2013, 20:29
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Good to the Fed Sec picking up on fatigue management, what happened when this was pointed out to the Association over 5 years ago and again last year.
Nothing!
Oh thats right, no gain to be made of it then. You knew the company was breaking its own rules but did nothing about it.

Is the union trying to cover its back now? Bit late I think.

Yes SAM management also knew they were breaching group policy and finaly brought out there own Fatigue Policy in 2010 which is slightly different to the Group's.

I generally don't work O/T and haven't during this dispute because I enjoy my time at home, but I believe attacking our own members will not help our cause, focus on the company and hold them to account.
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Old 14th Feb 2013, 01:00
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Nappystain & GH have been on the equivalent of a lottery for quiet a few years now $$$$$$$$$.

Be prepared for some very interesting developments now, many will be shocked and disappointed.

FEDSEC, we hope your arguements are water tight in every respect.

Know Thy Enemy, sounds so simple.

The battle has just began.
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Old 14th Feb 2013, 02:23
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Qantas Engineering redundances - Advice required!!!

Avalon CR's happening right now. Tapped and out the door shortly after. Sad times. Any news on Sydney??

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Old 14th Feb 2013, 06:41
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Redudancy not good to hear

Sorry to hear about the Redundancy Guy's not a good thing at all. Have any unions associations (ALAEA, AWU,AMWU) HAD ANY INPUT FOR TODAY AT ALL.

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Old 14th Feb 2013, 08:19
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Good to the Fed Sec picking up on fatigue management, what happened when this was pointed out to the Association over 5 years ago and again last year.
Who pointed it out 5 years ago and last year? I never heard anything. It's only through the consultation and subsequent research that we have been made aware that Qantas are breaking their own rules.


but I believe attacking our own members
Who is attacking our members? Apart from management of course.

FYI - The ALAEA are raising options for that company to find jobs for people. One of them is to have them follow their own fatigue policy. If they did they would need more people, simple as that. Members of course should be following the policy as well.
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Have any unions associations (ALAEA, AWU,AMWU) HAD ANY INPUT FOR TODAY AT
ALL.
Good Question or have they been caught off guard
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Good Question or have they been caught off guard
The ALAEA lodged an application for a breach of Agreement against Forstaff this arvo.
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The ALAEA lodged an application for a breach of Agreement against Forstaff
this arvo
So the answer is yes .
Will application for a breach of Agreement against Forstaff stop further action by Forstaff at this time .
Never trust Forstaff .

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Old 14th Feb 2013, 09:04
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Will application for a breach of Agreement against Forstaff stop further action by Forstaff at this time .
If you know Wally, you will know it wont stop them. They think they can just do what they want. The theory goes like this. They just keep sacking people in the hope that they win the case we are about to run. If they lose they think they will be so far in it is too hard to overturn.
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Old 14th Feb 2013, 09:27
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So what happened in avv?
Everyone gone ? Cull?
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Old 14th Feb 2013, 09:48
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A small number got tapped today.
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Old 14th Feb 2013, 10:07
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That's just the beginning and its hardly a small number if your one of them .
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Old 14th Feb 2013, 10:39
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They plan to tap around 250. I just answered the question about what happened today.
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Sydney heavy, tulla heavy gone. Avalon going,
30% from base. Rampies doing tows.
Pretty clear what nasty swines plan for the future is, and
We are not part of it.
Unbelievable thing is that people are making it work
By doing OT.
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Old 14th Feb 2013, 20:01
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Who pointed it out 5 years ago and last year? I never heard anything. It's only through the consultation and subsequent research that we have been made aware that Qantas are breaking their own rules.

Perhaps you should read emails sent to you via the Association and read the repsonse of the President when he sends them out, you would know who.



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Who is attacking our members? Apart from management of course.
Sending out personel SMS's to individuals instead of letting everyone know via a Union notice of their obligations. I think that is bullying and harasment.

No I wasn't the one you sent the SMS to.

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FYI - The ALAEA are raising options for that company to find jobs for people. One of them is to have them follow their own fatigue policy. If they did they would need more people, simple as that. Members of course should be following the policy as well.
It's good that you are posting vacancies around the globe and exploring all avenues to find jobs and as you say members should follow policy, but which one because as I pointed out SAM policy is different to Group policy, why is that.

If you want further information I can PM the details.

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Old 14th Feb 2013, 20:19
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I don't think you quite understand the Fed Secs situation. He calls a wildcat strike and he is in the slammer as well as losing his house.

Furthermore, some of you wouldn't join in anyway, making the effort pointless.

If you are brave, go talk to the CFMEU Boys, and let them advise you.
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Old 14th Feb 2013, 20:31
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Well said sunfish.
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