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Old 5th Feb 2013, 01:59
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O/T

Heard it was one crew in Perth who decided THEY have had enough of being overworked and it's having more of an effect than the company wants to admit.
Well done to the crew who have obviously chosen to spend time with their families and not be threatened into working excessive amounts of overtime!
Maybe the other Perth crews will start getting a taste for living life soon also. We
might soon all have LOTS of time on our hands! Including our Perth brothers.....
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Old 5th Feb 2013, 02:48
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This whole business of relying of ridiculous amounts of overtime to accomplish the workload makes a joke of Nassensteins memo 3 months ago.
Then he said "We just can't afford to keep people in the business when the work is not there to be performed".
It is now obvious he was way out of touch saying that.
Then Gavin announced the need to get rid of 204 positions in Sydney.
So 3 months down the track people are still sweating in bed at night waiting for their final decisions of who is being made redundant.
After 3 frigging months of this, are they just incompetent or getting some wierd enjoyment out of the whole process.
Either way, whoever is running the business should show them the door, and don't wait 3 months to do it.
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I heard some managers joking to themselves, something along the lines of "we'll show them how to do a slow bake".
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Qantas Engineering redundances - Advice required!!!

Qantas Engineering, Sydney Apprentices finishing their time, were phone interviewed yesterday and given a job as AME's. Correct me if I am wrong, weren't AME's included in the 204 redundancy numbers, so what the hell are they doing rehiring?
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I am amazed that the company hasn't gone to FWA citing that
We are conducting " unprotected industrial action " buy not working
Overtime.
Maybe because FWA would laugh at them for retrenching their staff
then crying because the work isn't getting done. All those cutbacks are coming back to bite.

As far as bake them slowly, bring it on!!!!!! The longer you bake us, the further behind your maintenance schedule slides. So Who's baking who?
Reality is that this is just a taste of what to expect when you retrench 30 %
of your staff, even if they do work heaps of overtime. So get used to it chris.

For years managers have blamed the staff for all that goes wrong, truth is your business is a mess due to your own stupidity. Under the current management QANTAS has slipped to # 13 in the safest airline rankings.
Nice going Al and co

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Lean sigma
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A380
The list goes on

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Old 5th Feb 2013, 06:33
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Now staff at Avalon can,t even get VR what a debacle this is .
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Old 5th Feb 2013, 06:57
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I heard some managers joking to themselves, something along the lines of "we'll show them how to do a slow bake".
Every Qantas LAME needs to recite this snickering when, on the job, they feel they are approaching the limit of their usual duties.

" We'll show them how to do a slow bake ".

No prob, Nasty, Gavin and Co.
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Just a couple of updates from around the traps today guys. We have been advised that the number of hold items on 738 aircraft has increased from 200 to 400 in the previous month. Unfortunately Qantas won't be able to sack as many people if this situation continues. Make your decisions accordingly.

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Old 5th Feb 2013, 10:38
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Fed Sec, for most people in club pineapple, that is music to their ears.
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Old 5th Feb 2013, 12:11
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A330

Hey, Fed Sec, what are the holds on the 330's ??????
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Not sure about 330 mate. Hold items are a KPI that the hatchet man needs to meet. I wouldn't be helping him, he was employed to destroy your life.
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Can't ALAEA go to FWA and report the pressure put on (L)AMEs to do O/T?

just my thoughts
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Fixed term contractors in Bne given a start date.
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Qantas Engineering redundances - Advice required!!!

What's the start date??
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Old 6th Feb 2013, 02:09
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BNE contractors

How many are Lame's working as ame's
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Old 6th Feb 2013, 02:28
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Can't ALAEA go to FWA and report the pressure put on (L)AMEs to do O/T?
The company can call you as much as they like.

You can answer the calls or choose to ignore them. You do have a choice.
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Fixed terms in BNE the $ are crap they wont get the numbers .
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Old 6th Feb 2013, 04:57
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Fixed terms in BNE the $ are crap they wont get the numbers .
As you know this is intentional. Suggest people get on to their AME unions in an attempt to find out why these AME jobs are being outsourced to contractors. Good luck if you can find them.

Another article on avalon in todays geelong advertiser be good if union chiefs as stated in article informed members before they read it in the paper .
Does it really matter if you hear about something first, it won't make any difference to the outcome. Don't be so precious.
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You reap what you sow

Heard a rumor today that the company thinks we are pulling
the wool over their eyes and are making the OPS managers work
weekend and night shifts to keep an eye on us.
Brilliant. Do it . I welcome it. I am even going to predict what will happen.
Ya wanna hear?
They will send there yes men down who will be too scared for their jobs
to report what is really happening .
They will report that we are on a go slow / snagging things that don't need to be done or are working to rule.
Truth is we are dealing with the BS that has been implemented by frauds who
make wild claims on how to save money but hurt the business BIG TIME.
The ultimate in spend a pound to save a penny.
The reality is that we bend there rules to get there flogged out pieces of crap
Ready to fly in the morning.
Well I am going to throw the challenge out to management.
Your OPS managers are only going to tell you what you want to hear.
Have some balls nappy stain and come and see for yourself.
Do a couple of full blocks. Come for an engine change under MXI and stay all
night, don't skive off with the excuse of meetings and the like. Deal with CAMEO reciepts , no parts, no license coverage and not enough people in your crew to even do a tow. In fact bring your Irish mate with you so he can see as well.
While you are at it get a tow safe card so you can be of some use
But you won't will you. Your KPI,s rely on the person upstream from you believing your lies , and he wants to hear them becease his KPI,s rely on you lying. Easier to just find a bucket full of sand eh
So go to your meetings, blame your staff, and somehow global warming will be our fault.
Yeah bake me slowly.


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No money in freight.
777,s are old technology
Lean sigma
Maintnex
A380,s

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Old 6th Feb 2013, 09:08
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Well said legacy!
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