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Old 6th Feb 2013, 16:26
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I had a QF HR woman from BNE ringing my mothers home number begging me to take the fixed term job! Haha.......Tell her she's dreaming. I'd rather work at ALDI, more pay too.
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It's the blundstone boots scenario..... offer terms and conditions that are completely inadequate, thus attracting little to no interest. You can then, as an Aussie icon, publicly declare that you must offshore because Australians do not want to work for you.

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Old 6th Feb 2013, 18:23
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24 hr Ops managers. Phew ! the airlines saved.
I can now go to sleep at night knowing that if I lose my dry cleaning card at 1 am, someone can sign my forms. What a relief.
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Fixed term contractor Bne,qf paying 3 levels higher than entry level of AME,approved by AWU unions but still ****,some will go but not for long mostly from JHAS and Avalon
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Qantas Engineering redundances - Advice required!!!

Shocking. Although I don't support the use of contractors, especially when the company is reducing the numbers elsewhere, if you do use contractors then you have to pay contractors wages.

Another way for someone to meet a KPI. Use contractors but on permenant staff ways rates. Someone had a bonus for that decision.

They will get the numbers in my opinion. With so many people out of work a small wage is always better than no wage.
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Fixed term contractor Bne,qf paying 3 levels higher than entry level of
AME,approved by AWU unions but still ****,some will go but not for long mostly
from JHAS and Avalon
Not paying enough to even cover the cost of accommodation let alone other costs for a short term.
Also Avalon staff can,t even get a VR at this time its all still up in air .

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It's the blundstone boots scenario..... offer terms and conditions that are
completely inadequate, thus attracting little to no interest. You can then, as
an Aussie icon, publicly declare that you must offshore because Australians do
not want to work for you.
Spot on thats been the plan from the start of this debacle and they put on new HR staff to do it .
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They will get the numbers in my opinion. With so many people out of work a
small wage is always better than no wage
The only ones they will get are people who currently live in Brisbane close to the airport and thats going to limit the numbers they get .

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So the Ops Managers are coming in on night shift. That's a real vote of confidence to the Duty Maintenance Managers! I wonder if the DMMs that were putting sh!t on the blokes for not working on their days off will change their tune now?
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They will get the numbers in my opinion. With so many people out of work a
small wage is always better than no wage

There are many who came on 457 visa who just got their residency out of work now will take the offer and hoping they wil become permanent one day.
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Old 7th Feb 2013, 00:23
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There are many who came on 457 visa who just got their residency out of work now will take the offer and hoping they wil become permanent one day.
Yes. Shared accommodation etc. Not sure of the numbers they want but I'm sure they will fill the spots
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Sydney HM shut,Tullamarine HM shut ,AVV HM to shut ,Bne HM ?,now maybe WA gov to give tax break to QF if they shift their maintenance there.
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Shocking. Although I don't support the use of contractors, especially when the company is reducing the numbers elsewhere, if you do use contractors then you have to pay contractors wages.
I hope they are not expecting those made redundant to apply. From what I am hearing from the guys on the floor, many are currently retraining themselves for jobs outside of the airline industry. Particularly in the mining industry. Many are not going around telling too many people for obvious reasons.

I don't blame them so draw your own conclusions if this is a good idea. But for many it is a case of "once bitten twice shy". Especially those gentlemen who are very worried at the moment about their future. So spare a thought for those poor fellows and put yourself in their shoes (for those of you that have the capacity to do so).

Either way it looks like a very cronic shortage of skilled labor in our industry maybe upon us in no time. Good luck finding the right people for the jobs.
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Guys, do as what was just posted previously. Look at what outside needs and get the skills required. Great jobs with Great employers out there. Money almost as good too, with no shift work. Weekend life is great. I may have been a rat leaving a sinking ship but I am glad to leave on my terms.

No longer a Syd Eng.
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meet up for Drinks last night with ex Sydney HM people,of all the people that left in 2006 not one has any regrets leaving Qantas,all where much happier in their home and work lives,and all said that they would never go back to that acidic work environment of Qantas.When one door closes another opens,coupled with your experiences as aircraft workers you will most likely end up in a much better place.

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The bad decisions continue

Qantas gift keeps giving, Cathay Pacific adds London flights | Plane Talking

This leadership team has by far inflicted the most damage to Qantas. The international fleet is ageing while efforts to improve market share result in situations like the above article.

While the rest of Australian business realise the importance of working WITH Asia this team of failures (ToF) try to slip under them or against them. Remember the rhetoric by the ToF a few years ago, now we have left Deathstar to dominate the Asian Aviation market and what a successful play that is proving to be.

The murmuring in the media and by travelers is Dubai is too far away as a hub. Singapore and the surrounding Asian nations are where Australian and doing business and choosing as holiday destinations over the Middle East. A very simple test, what image comes to mind when you think of the Middle East, now what image comes to mind when you think of Singapore. I'll tell you mine, war and tall buildings. You can place them where you think they fit.

Domestically the ToF's are now following JB. JB states Virgin WILL NOT code share with Tiger. Qantas drops Jetstar code shares on domestic flights | Plane Talking
JB is proving to be a formidable opponent and leads the scoreboard unless you believe the propaganda machine pumping awards, stats and commentary in a number of releases I have not seen before.

I need not comment on the Aircraft maintenance industry as this thread has ample evidence on the action of ToF.

Like others are suggesting on this thread I have prepared myself for another career. The economy is not healthy but the market is climbing which is always accepted as a lead indicator of the economy. So fingers crossed you don't encounter a ToF at your next employ.
Good luck.
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transfers

can anyone provide details on the transfer package to any line station.
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Transfering to another line station may possibly be taking your Titanic issued deck chair to another deck on the Titanic.
Liquor industry much better option.

Alternatively, if enough QF LAMEs wake up and smell the Iceberg coming they can pull together to either blow the iceberg up or overpower the Captain to steer the ship out of trouble.

The difficulty, unfortunately is that it is very difficult to get between a LAME and his wallet.

You are understaffed, overworked, overtired and can't think straight. You should all spend the next month treasuring your days off as times to spend with your families, resting or exercising, smelling the roses, getting your mojo's back.

The best way to help your yourself and your colleagues and the future of the LAME is to spend some timeaway from the coal face and enjoying life.

Remember keep cool

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Old 8th Feb 2013, 20:13
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Qantas Engineering redundances - Advice required!!!

Facts are the backlog of work is growing and growing everyday. QE management are smart enough to recognize that, but they are too stupid to know what to do about it. Maybe put a few Ops managers on nightshift. Simple mathematics, if you can't get the work done with the current employees numbers, how the hell do you do it when you have even less. Smarten up QE management before you bring the whole company to its knees and blame the unions for your mismanagement. I hope CASA is watching you like a hawk and puts you in your place. CASA has an obligation to the traveling Public's safety and well being. Iit is right now that they need to step in and stop this nonsense before it is too late and there is no way to recover.
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