5th September QF Announcement

[Jack Ranga]

If you can join them and get the advantages why not.

I'm talking about the integrity of the little gimp, not whether or not the tie up makes good business sense etc

[donpizmeov]

I know EK could not make a case for the 380 to fly BKK/SIN to oz due to loads. I wonder if this new code share will change that?
QF pilots start practicing saying BUBIN and DESDI, as you will get to spend a lot of time there, just as we all do.

The Don

[FlyEmirates777]

QF to Berlin?

Can Qantas move its Frankfurt service to Berlin via DXB?

[PPRuNeUser0198]

Qantas and Emirates

[Offchocks]

Can Qantas move its Frankfurt service to Berlin via DXB?

My assumption is since we are dropping FRA, we will not be going anywhere in Germany.

[crewmeal]

Just wait until Richard Branson starts moaning. He'll claim it's unfair competition and try to appeal to some authority somewhere. Meanwhile the Beeb's take on the news. Not very exciting.

BBC News - Qantas forms Emirates alliance as it seeks turnaround

[Wedcue]

Ok, so EK and QF tie up in some capacity, they are talking 90 plus flights per week... Sure, FRA has been cut from the network, but how many flights per week we're there to Germany?

By cutting Singapore out of the equation, and only going via Dubai, my question is, are there more flights now for QF or less... It appears there are more flights, has someone crunched the numbers? I only ask because, the tie up was announced, and QF are not just dropping off in Dubai, they are taking pax to London.. That's good news right? Social media and here gives the impression jobs will go.. Why?

[Ollie Onion]

Not sure of the exact schedule but I am pretty sure that Qantas do a daily to LHR through Singapore and Bangkok and also up to Frankfurt so changing to just a daily from SYD and MEL to LHR seems like a capacity downsize to me.

[Baileys]

I still don't get it. Why not just jump on an emirates flight from anywhere in Australia to go anywhere in the world via Dubai. Why go with Qantas anywhere international - especially to Dubai. My common sense says I don't really understand how this makes Qantas any more useful to passengers at all. It just seems that they are giving in to the competition instead. I would have thought they would be better off just pulling the pin all together on international rather than flying around the Bubin hold with Emirates from Australian ports above and below them.

[hotnhigh]

And of course there is no ongoing debt problems on the horizon for Dubai.

[hadagutfull]

Qanta... Sand.... Emirates.com???
Co incidence ?

[Captain Gidday]

It wasn't a deal until 30 minutes before the press conference.

Not true. Why, people have been hard at work on this deal for days, at least.

[1A_Please]

I don't really understand how this makes Qantas any more useful to passengers at all. It just seems that they are giving in to the competition instead.

It doesn't make QF anymore useful. It is more about locking in your loyalty through QF Frequent Flyer. There are now more places to earn and burn QF points so QF hopes you'll continue to fly with them domestically and to the USA. It is not about growing what we used to know as QF Int'l at all.

[fringhtok]

I think there is more to this than was announced. Simply switching the hub to Dubai from Singapore doesn't accomplish the sort of numbers that AJ was talking about. I smell a dying rat. I don't think all the flights continuing to LHR from DXB are going to be QF.......... The announcement is very thin on details and everyone seems to be assuming QF keeps going because the press release insinuates that. I'm not so sure.

[73to91]

Will the CUP be renamed, The Emirates/QANTAS Melbourne Cup?

Will AJ present the cup this year (on behalf of the partnership) to HRH?

[Toruk Macto]

The setup looks good from a managements perspective ! Emirates is now a option for everything Qantas does internationally , Qantas can run the numbers on all their flights and as soon as they can make more using Emirates they just gift the route to them and codeshare it back ie LHR . Can't see Qantas give up LHR slots ever !

[Dagger]

So with Frankfurt gone, and the change to London's, that 80 mainline pilot surplus would now be more like 200 (not including the 150 on LWOP). I wonder how long now until they start offering redundancies.

[Baileys]

So does this mean you can "burn" Qantas FF points on a "Qantas" flight to Europe via Dubai - with the Dubai to Europe bit being flown by Emirates. I would have guessed that the 'arabs' would say that is a big negative.

[jportzer]

So does this mean you can "burn" Qantas FF points on a "Qantas" flight to Europe via Dubai - with the Dubai to Europe bit being flown by Emirates. I would have guessed that the 'arabs' would say that is a big negative.

Um, I think you misunderstand how FF points work. When a Qantas frequent-flyer spends points on an Emirates flight, that means CASH transfers out of the Qantas Frequent Flyer program and into the hands of Emirates. It's just like selling a seat, except that now Qantas does the marketing and administers the program; Emirates gets the money and more people in their planes.

[SOPS]

QF FF points are like a cash cow to EK. EK basically gets paid by QF to fill up otherwise empty seats.