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Old 14th Nov 2012, 05:55
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Unfortunately we are surrounded by those who look after themselves not for the greater good.
a good description of the guys running the show at present..
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Old 14th Nov 2012, 06:03
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Agree with One eye, might as well suck as much out of the place as you can while it's going...It could be a long time between drinks for a lot of blokes
Flash: Message from Harris: EoI extended to 30 Nov.
26 on o/t tonight!! Good thing we're overstaffed.

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Old 14th Nov 2012, 08:29
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Why are people going in on o/t to help this company they want to sack you its not going to save you let them sink .
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It's quite simple:

DO overtime - system works - YOU get sacked

DON'T do overtime - system falls over - all the YES MEN get sacked.


Up to YOU!!
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Old 14th Nov 2012, 09:22
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But then if you refuse to do overtime the company will say you are participating in illegal industrial action.

They will win either way.
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Old 14th Nov 2012, 09:24
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If everyone does O/T all you do is make the system work until they get rid of those who fall. By then it's too late
If no one did O/T the system will break, hold items go through the roof and on time departures fall in a heap. Nasty Stein looks like an idiot and they might just realise we're not overstaffed.
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Green Goblin.

I don't think I could possibly do overtime at the moment. I'm too stressed worrying about my future. All I'm doing now is taking the advise of the company and looking after myself and spending as much time with my family as I can. That definately means not doing any overtime and staying away from the place that's causing me all that stress.
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Old 14th Nov 2012, 09:42
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O\T

Yes I got the same message to come in for o\t tonight 1400-0200(strange start and finish time on a Wednesday).My first thoughts were go and get f****d.Then I thought about all the termites that said yes to the o\t,they can go and get f****d as well.They will be the first ones squealing when the axe falls.
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Old 14th Nov 2012, 10:00
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I went for a session under the employee assist program and was told to relax and forget about work when not there. They made it clear not to work additional hours work in such a stressful time. I am even getting stressed watching others work overtime when they are about to sack so many.
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Old 14th Nov 2012, 11:42
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Maybe if u do o/t ,u might be in the management good books and u will get offered in Brisbane heavy jobs
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Old 14th Nov 2012, 11:47
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Maybe if u do o/t ,u might be in the management good books and u will get offered in Brisbane heavy jobs
Not a hope. Apparently management have targetted those on Division 1 Super and those in the 50's bracket.

It also won't matter too much, as after this round, there'll be another culling in March 2013.
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Old 14th Nov 2012, 12:33
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Mmmm

I very much doubt you could base retrenchment on purely super group and age . I would say FWA would have a field day with that .
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Old 14th Nov 2012, 12:36
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767 busted in Perth tonight DE ringing around to get a crew go fix
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@rtv

I very much doubt you could base retrenchment on purely super group and age . I would say FWA would have a field day with that .
That won't be the official line. If it comes down to compulsory redundancies, the company chooses who they want to go.

FWA didn't have much say when AJ shut the airline down last year until they were forced to do so.
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FWA didn't have much say when AJ shut the airline down last year until they were forced to do so
Yeah, I agree... forget the FWA they have failed you, for me, a great example of the Aussie worker being stitched up by government legislation.

FWA is a "fun park" for lawyers, nothing more.

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Don't for one minute rely on FWA. They side with management.

FWA= **** working Australians
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Don't for one minute rely on FWA. They side with management.

FWA= **** working Australians
Thats gold!!! Do you mind if I use that one?
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Qantas buy back announcement includes poor outlook

Qantas has broken some bad, if not infuriating news with its announcement of a buyback of around 4% of its shares this morning.
This is the ASX release about the buy back:
Qantas buy back announcement includes poor outlook for FY13 | Plane Talking
off in a new direction....

Why do companies buy back their own shares?
The general answer is something called in the industry by the jargon term "capital management". Sounds grand, but what it means in simple terms is this:
If the business has surplus cash it has a choice. It can either invest it in the business, or it can pay it to the shareholders. The return on holding cash will tend to be lower than the rate of return on the main business and than the rate shareholders could invest it elsewhere. So, it makes sense to buy back some shares unless the company has good uses for the cash. The company could also pay a special dividend or it could make a repayment of capital. Usually, tax considerations will drive the decision on the method used. One advantage of buying back the shares is that it increases the earnings per share on the remaining shares. It also means that those shareholders who want out can do so, while others can stay with their entire holding.
There is another reason. The company might be able to borrow money cheaper than the return it pays to the shareholders on the equity, called



Why do companies buy back their own shares? - Ask Colin - Resources
Qantas hopes buyback will help ailing shares

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Old 14th Nov 2012, 21:39
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I know we can't ban o/t, due to it being unprotected industrial action, but surely we could have a word with these guys and put our point across about it not being in our best interest and have some sort of a gentlemens' agreement, or is the smell of money too much for them.
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