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Old 10th Nov 2012, 04:10
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Emirates have heaps of new hangars for a380's and Qf now fly there. What more is there to say..
From my understanding EK is always crying out for skilled people. Can anybody confirm what the pay comparison is to us Aussies, Engineering that is?
Although EK isn't unionised like AUS, I didn't think that the costs would be that much cheaper to have them do the maintenance on the Dugong, if it comes down to that?

Nice post TIMA9X, but disturbing. Why is it that the Wong, Girrard and Nicola aspire to be men by continually sporting men's haircuts? Now I am trying not to be sexist or be a misogynist but all three are complete pigs. A tree stump has more chance of giving me wood. Whatever happened to eye candy in Parliament, you know like Amanda Vanstone and Bronwyn Bishop?
Is there a set criteria for the majority of women in parliament that they must have tuckshop lady arms, dual chins and a face like a smashed crab? Now that the (dare I say) Howes/Wirth relationship is blossoming (and yes I do think she is rather hot for some horrid reason) maybe she will become one of the faceless women in parliament and expand on her political aspirations?
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Old 10th Nov 2012, 04:32
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I am trying not to be sexist or be a misogynist
Not trying very hard evidently.
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Old 10th Nov 2012, 04:49
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Not trying very hard evidently.
Well politicians are somewhat different are they not?
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Old 10th Nov 2012, 04:53
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eye candy in Parliament, you know like Amanda Vanstone and Bronwyn Bishop?
chuckle
some say.. ...not easy to be a bloke these days, you can't say anything without having a finger pointed at you.. oops, incoming

sorry for the diversion..
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Old 10th Nov 2012, 05:22
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What kind of engineering is going to be left in SYD after this latest round of cuts?

This simply a disgrace!!!

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Old 10th Nov 2012, 05:54
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I will bet my left nut that EK has been cautioned by Qantas NOT to employ former (retrenched) Qantas engineers.
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Old 10th Nov 2012, 06:01
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Grrr


What kind of engineering is going to be left in SYD after this latest round of cuts?

This simply a disgrace!!!



Engineering ? These new aircraft don't need maintenance !
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Old 10th Nov 2012, 07:07
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Am hearing that members from Syd areas are all looking at reversion to 8 hour rosters. Any thoughts or comments about that? If there is enough interest I will run a vote on it. Qantas can't get out of that one, we have already won a court case on it.
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Old 10th Nov 2012, 07:39
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Fed Sec, i for one would be happy to go back to 8 hour shifts, i heard from a planner years ago that they would struggle if that happened, no point in letting the bastards get their own way as we're all going to end up on the scrap heap. What amazes me is why there is no mention of managers getting the arse, common sense means less staff you need less management, oh wait a minute i forgot we work for Qantas!
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Old 10th Nov 2012, 08:08
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8 hours? No way. Once off the 12, 10.9 or whatever the only extended hours roster you'll get is the one they want. If it is 8 hours it will be a sh!tful one dreamed up to make the misery complete. Only saving grace right now is getting predictable days off in a row.
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Old 10th Nov 2012, 08:14
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What A great idea count me in, to go to 8 Hrs this will the reduced wages bill, Intern saving jobs & create a cost effective way to maintain the knowledge within the company & also maintain a pool of AMEs/LAMEs for when the next aircraft orders arrive & the work picks up.

This flexibility sounds like a win win for QANTAS, the travelling public & tax payer as they would not be footing the bill for more unemployed.

It would also reduce human factors concerns in regards to fatigue management by reducing impacts on staff circadian rhythms.

Brisbane Heavy is currently on an 8 Hour roster, which seems to create high employment with a manageable cost structure.

Why didn't Q Futures come up with this.
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Old 10th Nov 2012, 08:25
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8 hours? No way.
You could end up with no hours ofcourse, happy with that???
Would seem to me that is the way things are heading, either stay together or you are all doomed!

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Old 10th Nov 2012, 08:28
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8 hr roster worked for the Perth guys
I believe the court ruling said that either party could stop
An extended hour roster for "any or no" reason.
If the company could run on an 8hr roster they already
Would be. Fact is they can't.
Another thing to consider is the need to do overtime when the
Company says there are too many engineering staff.
Every day we circumvent the company's unworkable policies and
Make the system work. I think that I will be extremely vigilant and ensure
I follow qantas procedures to the letter. I wouldn't want to not follow procedures
And give the company reason to single me out.
Looks like AJ's bonuses is the real reason we fly
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Old 10th Nov 2012, 08:33
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Only saving grace right now is getting predictable days off in a row.
If something doesn't change, a large number of Engineers will be getting very predictable days off. They will all be in a row.
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Old 10th Nov 2012, 08:48
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Arnold, fed sec apparently it is a democracy and I wont vote for it. I am allowed an opinion. I will likely lose my job as I am not long term heavily licensed LAME of influence that has been there forever, nor do I spend any time under some manager's desk. I have as much to loose as anyone, probably more because I am not a long termer. While it lasts I want the shift I am on and it is for private reasons so bugger off with lecturing me without knowing my situation.
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Old 10th Nov 2012, 08:49
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And you have played a major role in all this SP you should be so proud of what you have achieved!
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Old 10th Nov 2012, 08:50
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8 hours, I am in anything to stop more knowledge walking out the door, If we don't. By the time they work out what they have done it will be to late.
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Old 10th Nov 2012, 08:58
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Democracy it is AMP. Just putting the feelers out there at the request of many members who have contacted me about it. Still think something needs to change.
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Old 10th Nov 2012, 09:08
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Steve, I am very supportive of you and the work you have done just don't be too quick shooting from the hip please. Respect that we all have different life and family situations.
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Amp so do the People who are about to be made redundant.
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