Rumour: Sunstate Engineers suspended over aircraft sabotage?
Saftey Concerns
Well ok I am 61 years old and have been a union member since I was 15, and clearly I am stupid, Please use your superior interlect to explain to me
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That was an assumption not selective quotation.
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AS - I am very alarmed that you have written to CASA about a safety concern and they just reply to say it is an Industrial issue. I would like to review the corro if possible because it sounds a bit fishy. Please email me at and I will send you some more detailed info as well.
cheers
Steve P
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I don't really want to get further involved, especially in union/industrial business, however the CASA CEO said I was at liberty to seek more information elsewhere, so I guess it would be okay.
Your email is NOT visible on this thread though, could you PM it to me and I will send you all the emails from CASA.
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When at any stage did I say that I had been a member of the ALAEA for that length of time?? Talk about selective quotations
arnold have you got it yet
Tsk tsk. Are you a current ALAEA member Arnold E ?? If not, perhaps you should seek information or advice from another source, ALAEA Fed Sec is fairly busy providing support and advice to members currently..
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Arnold E, settle pettle. Just some robust discussion mate, nothing more nothing less. Don't punish them by our debate ok.
I am willing to agree to get back on track with the thread, its about the 6 engineers not those of us who aren't sitting in their shoes .
Peace.
I am willing to agree to get back on track with the thread, its about the 6 engineers not those of us who aren't sitting in their shoes .
Peace.
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Okay people, settle down.
I am NOT a current Member of the ALAEA either, but like many others am just trying to help out as much as I can.
PEACE...............
I am NOT a current Member of the ALAEA either, but like many others am just trying to help out as much as I can.
PEACE...............
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Couldn't agree more big dog, then your question...
From what I know of Qantaslink they have stood down approx 1/4 of their licensed engineers. Does this not add undue pressure on the remaining ? Won't this effect their ability to perform normal duties.
From what i've seen and heard, the Sunstate night work was being c/o by scabs, protected by security guards, lmfao.
Then those lames remaining can keep the ramp operating.
If this is the case, scabs can run up big bills and make heaps of stuffups.
Hoping you get your backpay entitlements, re-imburse all docked pay, and get rid of the manager/s pulling the strings in this debacle.
From what I know of Qantaslink they have stood down approx 1/4 of their licensed engineers. Does this not add undue pressure on the remaining ? Won't this effect their ability to perform normal duties.
From what i've seen and heard, the Sunstate night work was being c/o by scabs, protected by security guards, lmfao.
Then those lames remaining can keep the ramp operating.
If this is the case, scabs can run up big bills and make heaps of stuffups.
Hoping you get your backpay entitlements, re-imburse all docked pay, and get rid of the manager/s pulling the strings in this debacle.
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Note to airsupport,
I can see fedsec's email addy just fine.
Check your browser settings or protection levels,
keep up the good work.
I can see fedsec's email addy just fine.
Check your browser settings or protection levels,
keep up the good work.
He has been in touch now via PM, and he has all the emails he wanted.
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Seems the facts are spreading Worldwide, just our CASA that doesn't know.
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AEI Press Release
Australian Aviation Safety Suffers Further Setback
Hoofddorp, Netherlands 07 Dec 2010
AEI (Aircraft Engineers International) is becoming extremely concerned about the safety image being projected within the Qantas group. In a quite unprecedented action, a Qantaslink airline (Sunstate), has deducted pay from over 20 Licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineers salaries.
AEI believe this decision was taken after their professional judgement determined aircraft defects needed to be corrected before further flight in order to maintain required levels of airworthiness and safety. Qantas has claimed that the reason for deducting the pay was unprotected industrial action, but AEI disputes this.
AEI offers its unconditional support to the engineers concerned, who despite incredible commercial pressure ensured that passenger interests were protected and safety remained paramount.
AEI General Secretary Fred Bruggeman commented, "Punitive action taken against aviation safety professionals raising legitimate safety issues cannot be tolerated under any circumstances. Safety may suffer as a result of this
action and this sorry episode will surely cause untold damage to both the Qantas group and the travelling public's perception of air safety."
AEI has been warning for some time that airline claims of "safety being paramount" is all too often nothing more than an empty marketing slogan. It is interesting that the Qantas Group Business Practices document (published
on the Qantas website) commits the group to conducting business to the "highest levels of ethics and integrity" whilst insisting upon the highest standards including safety standards from its employees. In fact page seven
claims that Qantas are committed to "providing a workplace that is free from discrimination, harassment and bullying."
Mr Bruggeman continued, "The evidence published in this case is both clear and shocking. It highlights an incredible level of arrogance within management circles and raises genuine concerns about the sincerity of the Qantas group to adhere to their own procedures and ensure that safety, rather than profit, remains paramount. AEI calls on the Qantas Chief Executive Officer, Alan Joyce to intervene personally and bring what AEI believes to be intimidation of safety professionals to an immediate end."
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AEI Press Release
Australian Aviation Safety Suffers Further Setback
Hoofddorp, Netherlands 07 Dec 2010
AEI (Aircraft Engineers International) is becoming extremely concerned about the safety image being projected within the Qantas group. In a quite unprecedented action, a Qantaslink airline (Sunstate), has deducted pay from over 20 Licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineers salaries.
AEI believe this decision was taken after their professional judgement determined aircraft defects needed to be corrected before further flight in order to maintain required levels of airworthiness and safety. Qantas has claimed that the reason for deducting the pay was unprotected industrial action, but AEI disputes this.
AEI offers its unconditional support to the engineers concerned, who despite incredible commercial pressure ensured that passenger interests were protected and safety remained paramount.
AEI General Secretary Fred Bruggeman commented, "Punitive action taken against aviation safety professionals raising legitimate safety issues cannot be tolerated under any circumstances. Safety may suffer as a result of this
action and this sorry episode will surely cause untold damage to both the Qantas group and the travelling public's perception of air safety."
AEI has been warning for some time that airline claims of "safety being paramount" is all too often nothing more than an empty marketing slogan. It is interesting that the Qantas Group Business Practices document (published
on the Qantas website) commits the group to conducting business to the "highest levels of ethics and integrity" whilst insisting upon the highest standards including safety standards from its employees. In fact page seven
claims that Qantas are committed to "providing a workplace that is free from discrimination, harassment and bullying."
Mr Bruggeman continued, "The evidence published in this case is both clear and shocking. It highlights an incredible level of arrogance within management circles and raises genuine concerns about the sincerity of the Qantas group to adhere to their own procedures and ensure that safety, rather than profit, remains paramount. AEI calls on the Qantas Chief Executive Officer, Alan Joyce to intervene personally and bring what AEI believes to be intimidation of safety professionals to an immediate end."
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In a quite unprecedented action, a Qantaslink airline (Sunstate), has deducted pay from over 20 Licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineers salaries.
and another 20 or 20 including them are losing pay.
I know I am old school, but please explain?
Yes, I know I am stupid!