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Which slimy management prick made this statement:Qantas threat over strike vote - The West Australian
"The airline says that the average engineer earns $150,000 a year."
I've been an engineer at QF for 15 years and I'm yet to crack $100k!
If CN is going to allow such bull$hit public statements this time around then the gloves are off! Bring on PIA!!!
Fu(k I'm Pi$$ed off!
"The airline says that the average engineer earns $150,000 a year."
I've been an engineer at QF for 15 years and I'm yet to crack $100k!
If CN is going to allow such bull$hit public statements this time around then the gloves are off! Bring on PIA!!!
Fu(k I'm Pi$$ed off!
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Don't get mad, get even
That's my motto especially after reading all the lies in the press
36% increase demanded ..... Lies
Ave 150k / year .... Lies
Free laptops for everyone ! ....... Lies
That's my motto especially after reading all the lies in the press
36% increase demanded ..... Lies
Ave 150k / year .... Lies
Free laptops for everyone ! ....... Lies
Be prepared for the unexpected.
We educated QANTAS IR in 2007/2008. I'm sure their memories go back that far. They were "hurt" last time and will try and educate us this time around. Be patient. Be prepared to take a fair deal when you see one (probably not early in the process, but it will come). I say again, be patient.
We educated QANTAS IR in 2007/2008. I'm sure their memories go back that far. They were "hurt" last time and will try and educate us this time around. Be patient. Be prepared to take a fair deal when you see one (probably not early in the process, but it will come). I say again, be patient.
Perspective Arnold. Don't always look at it from an Engineers perspective.
QANTAS IR learned a bit regarding different tactics in 2007/2008. Much like armies have changed the way they fought each other over the years, 2007/2008 brought a different perspective and learnings to the IR arena. They may say they are prepared to have the 2011 dispute cost more than last time, but I'll bet they would have no such intention. They will have different tactics to use this time around, ones we haven't yet thought of.
I'm still wondering where their alternative workforce is. I wonder what color cloth they will wear. I wonder if they are Australian. These are my unanswered questions, all I ask is you don't cut me down too quickly. Could be there is no alternative workforce and they will take any action we give on the corporate chin. If that's the case I don't mind being proved wrong and labeled as such.
So I say, be patient.
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QANTAS IR learned a bit regarding different tactics in 2007/2008. Much like armies have changed the way they fought each other over the years, 2007/2008 brought a different perspective and learnings to the IR arena. They may say they are prepared to have the 2011 dispute cost more than last time, but I'll bet they would have no such intention. They will have different tactics to use this time around, ones we haven't yet thought of.
I'm still wondering where their alternative workforce is. I wonder what color cloth they will wear. I wonder if they are Australian. These are my unanswered questions, all I ask is you don't cut me down too quickly. Could be there is no alternative workforce and they will take any action we give on the corporate chin. If that's the case I don't mind being proved wrong and labeled as such.
So I say, be patient.
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I'm still wondering where their alternative workforce is.
So I say, be patient.
Did I mention, save a few bucks on the side. Q a gonna be a whole lot nastier - AAhh, rhymes with C Nasty.
But we will prevail. United we stand. We have others in the airline on our side so any scabs on the scene are in for a difficult time.
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Surely you earn more than $100k, be honest.
One of my boys had only been in the company less than 8 years when he escaped the collapse of SYD Hm to the blissful and prosperous (for some) sanctuary of sunny Cairns.He would have earned around 100k the first year when the other two mortons were in control.
Then towards the end of 2007 my subordinate Notsew and I took over the Dmm's positions. Moving forward we rolled out a regime where we looked after (and still do) certain employees that fit specific criteria - easily influenced, unable to think for themselves, spineless, self centred, money grubbing, gutless, subservient, totally incompetent and incapable of carrying out any aircraft maintenance, other than Nil transits.
It goes without saying that anyone who wishes to be accepted into my little benifits club will be a clone of myself- any knowledge of aircraft systems whatsoever is prohibited!
Beal has shown great loyalty and his training now reflects his commitment and he definitely meets all of the above criteria.
J A 1 , if you can get a transfer to Cairns I will look after you. If you meet the criteria you will earn in excess of 150k, more like 200k plus, if you get here before the PIA finishes. Otherwise your time up here will be shortlived!
Something I forgot to mention is you also need a deep throat!
One of my boys had only been in the company less than 8 years when he escaped the collapse of SYD Hm to the blissful and prosperous (for some) sanctuary of sunny Cairns.He would have earned around 100k the first year when the other two mortons were in control.Then towards the end of 2007 my subordinate Notsew and I took over the Dmm's positions. Moving forward we rolled out a regime where we looked after (and still do) certain employees that fit specific criteria - easily influenced, unable to think for themselves, spineless, self centred, money grubbing, gutless, subservient, totally incompetent and incapable of carrying out any aircraft maintenance, other than Nil transits.
It goes without saying that anyone who wishes to be accepted into my little benifits club will be a clone of myself- any knowledge of aircraft systems whatsoever is prohibited!
Beal has shown great loyalty and his training now reflects his commitment and he definitely meets all of the above criteria.
J A 1 , if you can get a transfer to Cairns I will look after you. If you meet the criteria you will earn in excess of 150k, more like 200k plus, if you get here before the PIA finishes. Otherwise your time up here will be shortlived!
Something I forgot to mention is you also need a deep throat!
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Sounds good sniggiH!
I've heard that's how they roll up in CNS. That an incompetent (ock $ucker would Be-All I'd have to be to make it up there. Apparently even a failed course earns you MORE TRAINING! I also herd they're throwing around the B1 training so it might be a good time to make my move. Maybe my contacts in the Happy Clappers Church will get me in...
I'd say it'd be best send my resume direct to you or notseW because it's fairly obvious GH doesn't know or care whats going on up there.
I've heard that's how they roll up in CNS. That an incompetent (ock $ucker would Be-All I'd have to be to make it up there. Apparently even a failed course earns you MORE TRAINING! I also herd they're throwing around the B1 training so it might be a good time to make my move. Maybe my contacts in the Happy Clappers Church will get me in...
I'd say it'd be best send my resume direct to you or notseW because it's fairly obvious GH doesn't know or care whats going on up there.
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Heard there was a certain manager & ops manager wandering around at 1am in morning in Syd asking the guys how they felt......
Is this showing there is a little worry in the ranks??? Bit late don't you think!
Is this showing there is a little worry in the ranks??? Bit late don't you think!
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As per usual, lower management tell upper management what they want to hear, after all, they only talk to the a lickers anyway, who paint rosy pictures.
Its not until PIA ballots and engagement surveys are run, that they find out the real thoughts of their workforce
They can't hide behind the wall I'm beating my head against, any longer
Its not until PIA ballots and engagement surveys are run, that they find out the real thoughts of their workforce
They can't hide behind the wall I'm beating my head against, any longer