Qf LAME EBA Negotiations Begin
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Keep trying 1974.
I'm surprised anyone running the show at QF can spell leadership let alone show any.
CN seems to want to but suspect the agenda comes from way above.
Fed sec just posted some fantastic news on another thread.
I'm surprised anyone running the show at QF can spell leadership let alone show any.
CN seems to want to but suspect the agenda comes from way above.
Fed sec just posted some fantastic news on another thread.
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Quote:
"Interesting times we live in , gung ho boys it seems you are all up for
it. Or are you all , I hear a senior official is going of on leave , great
leadership , have you all got your leave forms in?"
Unionist 1974, while trolls and slimes like you continue to disseminate bull**** like that only strengthens the resolve of members of the association.
Have a beer for me while you're away Steve and enjoy.
I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired.
"Interesting times we live in , gung ho boys it seems you are all up for
it. Or are you all , I hear a senior official is going of on leave , great
leadership , have you all got your leave forms in?"
Unionist 1974, while trolls and slimes like you continue to disseminate bull**** like that only strengthens the resolve of members of the association.
Have a beer for me while you're away Steve and enjoy.
I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired.
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Unionist1974, a pitiful attempt at division. Said senior member more than deserves a holiday if he wishes and obviously has your measure so may as well enjoy himself. No doubt your compatriots are wishing you would take a hike so they can get on with business! Great work Fed Sec and all at the office keep it up.
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Oh its all happening , a freeby yes i did a few of them and SP you have had afew I know that . Well , if you want all the dirty washing out so be it .
Would you know who saved base maint by selling his soul and got a supervisors job . Yes , I do and so do you .
Would you know who saved base maint by selling his soul and got a supervisors job . Yes , I do and so do you .
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The way you and LS are directing this thing it looks like there will be a lot of shareholder money flushed, and pain of all involved.
Yep, institutional shareholders will be onto the board looking for scapegoats. Whether this 'engineered' dispute gets closer to the endgame or not, there will be a big clean out of management again. How are DC, MH, and friends going these days? With any luck AJ and LC will be offered up as well!
Yep, institutional shareholders will be onto the board looking for scapegoats. Whether this 'engineered' dispute gets closer to the endgame or not, there will be a big clean out of management again. How are DC, MH, and friends going these days? With any luck AJ and LC will be offered up as well!
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Leave,why would you want leave???
The shows only just begun,I want front row seats to this one,
already told the family the holidays are pushed back a bit,but I'm sure
they will just enjoy havin me around a bit more instead of propin up an
airline on OT......how you like that.........!
The shows only just begun,I want front row seats to this one,
already told the family the holidays are pushed back a bit,but I'm sure
they will just enjoy havin me around a bit more instead of propin up an
airline on OT......how you like that.........!
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LMO Manager Exodus
With Big D*ck gone it will be interested to see who takes over in WA. I wonder if it will become an Ops Manager role instead. Whatever can this mean for the other LMO managers?
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Ah good to be back on the prune.
Will the same SC@BS continue there good work unaffected by all whilst reeping massive pay packets by doing o/t during a pia . Only to get great rewards once the EBA was signed.
A notable one may be doing acting qld manager job often know as fat head (you know when you see him).
Everybody seems to have forgiven or forgotten those who worked o/t during the last eba will again be lining up for there cash cows 1/ o/t 2 new eba.
Don't forgive or forget!!!
Cns dmm's and there cronies are ready again to work where ever needed just to be assured that GH will still love them.
From Mt Isa break downs to townsville cns cronies will prevail thru another eba. Bring on the o/t( not only to i get sh!tload of o/t but a huge backpay and level rise as well as back to back 73classic/800 crse)
Each snr and dmm in cns is working against you to get the best possible outcome for themselves.
Oh and the alaea has seem fit also to let this slide.
god its good to get that off my chest.
Will the same SC@BS continue there good work unaffected by all whilst reeping massive pay packets by doing o/t during a pia . Only to get great rewards once the EBA was signed.
A notable one may be doing acting qld manager job often know as fat head (you know when you see him).
Everybody seems to have forgiven or forgotten those who worked o/t during the last eba will again be lining up for there cash cows 1/ o/t 2 new eba.
Don't forgive or forget!!!
Cns dmm's and there cronies are ready again to work where ever needed just to be assured that GH will still love them.
From Mt Isa break downs to townsville cns cronies will prevail thru another eba. Bring on the o/t( not only to i get sh!tload of o/t but a huge backpay and level rise as well as back to back 73classic/800 crse)
Each snr and dmm in cns is working against you to get the best possible outcome for themselves.
Oh and the alaea has seem fit also to let this slide.
god its good to get that off my chest.
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Bit of a dig steve at the association but these jokers in cns have ruined more than one members careers while you guys knew and continue to know about there and GH's tactics and have done F2ck all
Ah again thats better isn't it.
Ah again thats better isn't it.
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I'm glad you feel a bit better and yes, everything you have said is spot on. The DMM's are Pr1cks and we have nothing about it.
We don't actually appoint the DMMs, Qantas does. They have both been given a life ban from the ALAEA. I'm concerned that every time I give them a bad wrap to Senior managers, their jobs become more secure.
Unfortunately, the good blokes who may have been building harassment cases against the Ba$tards all seem to leave. I know its hard but we need one to hang in there until we have a decisive blow. Then I take it those who have left will come out of the woodwork with supporting statements.
We don't actually appoint the DMMs, Qantas does. They have both been given a life ban from the ALAEA. I'm concerned that every time I give them a bad wrap to Senior managers, their jobs become more secure.
Unfortunately, the good blokes who may have been building harassment cases against the Ba$tards all seem to leave. I know its hard but we need one to hang in there until we have a decisive blow. Then I take it those who have left will come out of the woodwork with supporting statements.
ALEA Fed. Sec. - warning. Be aware that American Customs officials can confiscate a laptop computer or memory stick on arrival in the States and examine it at their leisure. They don't even have to give a reason.
Make sure that there is nothing "sensitive" on your laptop, preferably even take a "virgin" new laptop that has never held sensitive information because "undeletes" are a real possibility.
I wouldn't put it past QF to attempt to arrange this to happen. In any case unions are not popular in America and I don't think Customs would need much prodding.
You can call me paranoid on your return.
BTW it's interesting how the trolls appear to spread FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) during negotiations. I think Unionist 1974 is most probably "Aircraft", remember him?
Make sure that there is nothing "sensitive" on your laptop, preferably even take a "virgin" new laptop that has never held sensitive information because "undeletes" are a real possibility.
I wouldn't put it past QF to attempt to arrange this to happen. In any case unions are not popular in America and I don't think Customs would need much prodding.
You can call me paranoid on your return.
BTW it's interesting how the trolls appear to spread FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) during negotiations. I think Unionist 1974 is most probably "Aircraft", remember him?
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The offshoring of QF & now also JQ never stops
Fiji and the off shoring of Qantas/Jetstar
April 9, 2011 – 12:10 pm, by Ben Sandilands
The obvious but not yet official cancellation of an order for eight 787 Dreamliners by Fiji carrier, Air Pacific, is probably about a lot more than the inability of Boeing to get its composite airliner act together.
If the Qantas investment of around 46 per cent of Air Pacific has a future at all, it lies in a transition of that stake into a new low cost offshore franchise for Jetstar.
But such an end game scenario has a few problems. Fiji has trouble at a government level in getting on with the rest of the world, and its own ethnic Indian population, and rightly or wrongly, is no longer seen as a particularly inexpensive and low risk place to sink funds.
Air Pacific is also in the red, according to official reports, and under intense competitive pressure from Jetstar and Pacific Blue services.
Exiting a commitment for eight of anything at this stage is hardly surprising, and it would not have done this without the direction of Qantas given its interest in the carrier, which it has in recent times tried to sell.
If however costs and political risks are considered acceptable, Fiji has obvious appeal as a low cost Pacific carrier base, and a location which Qantas could find very attractive as a means of undermining or destroying its own higher cost and gradually imploding Australian based activities as well as setting up a bit of price tension with its Jetstar and Jetconnect operations in New Zealand.
Is this too cynical an assessment? Not after its recent efforts with the basing of Australian registered A330s in Singapore under Singaporean labor rules to by-pass the Australian labor and tax law obligations the current management of Qantas appear to regard as odious.
Once Air Pacific is dead, or transformed under an orange star, or replaced by same, an operation based on A330s, or 787s if they ever pass muster, could emerge.
April 9, 2011 – 12:10 pm, by Ben Sandilands
The obvious but not yet official cancellation of an order for eight 787 Dreamliners by Fiji carrier, Air Pacific, is probably about a lot more than the inability of Boeing to get its composite airliner act together.
If the Qantas investment of around 46 per cent of Air Pacific has a future at all, it lies in a transition of that stake into a new low cost offshore franchise for Jetstar.
But such an end game scenario has a few problems. Fiji has trouble at a government level in getting on with the rest of the world, and its own ethnic Indian population, and rightly or wrongly, is no longer seen as a particularly inexpensive and low risk place to sink funds.
Air Pacific is also in the red, according to official reports, and under intense competitive pressure from Jetstar and Pacific Blue services.
Exiting a commitment for eight of anything at this stage is hardly surprising, and it would not have done this without the direction of Qantas given its interest in the carrier, which it has in recent times tried to sell.
If however costs and political risks are considered acceptable, Fiji has obvious appeal as a low cost Pacific carrier base, and a location which Qantas could find very attractive as a means of undermining or destroying its own higher cost and gradually imploding Australian based activities as well as setting up a bit of price tension with its Jetstar and Jetconnect operations in New Zealand.
Is this too cynical an assessment? Not after its recent efforts with the basing of Australian registered A330s in Singapore under Singaporean labor rules to by-pass the Australian labor and tax law obligations the current management of Qantas appear to regard as odious.
Once Air Pacific is dead, or transformed under an orange star, or replaced by same, an operation based on A330s, or 787s if they ever pass muster, could emerge.
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It was not that far back when another Orange tail started and looked as if CNS was going to close and the cries to the Union for help and the rest of the stations to rally behind a small station and help. And I am sure the cries came loudest from those now stabbing the rest of you Lames in the back.
But that is typical , when you have a weak character and have no guts to stand up on your own , you will always fall behind and be propped up by someone because you have not got the backbone to stand up for yourself.
Thank god they were not at Anzac Cove in WW1 or we all be eating Turkish bread instead of Tip Top
KARMA comes to everyone
But that is typical , when you have a weak character and have no guts to stand up on your own , you will always fall behind and be propped up by someone because you have not got the backbone to stand up for yourself.
Thank god they were not at Anzac Cove in WW1 or we all be eating Turkish bread instead of Tip Top
KARMA comes to everyone