Qf LAME EBA Negotiations Begin
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Took 5 today. Then too late to start big job. Night shift may struggle as well.
PLEASE Fed Sec can we ramp it up!!!!!!
I want to see that lying little leprechaun go the same way as the 1000 people
he wants to shaft. I only hope QF isn,t the rainbow that his pot of gold is under.
PLEASE Fed Sec can we ramp it up!!!!!!
I want to see that lying little leprechaun go the same way as the 1000 people
he wants to shaft. I only hope QF isn,t the rainbow that his pot of gold is under.
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If we walk at the drop of the hat does that mean we can be locked out?
Instead of a picket line how about a Sit In.
baking them slowly allows more of the same.
Expression of interest for J* japan already out , whats next?
If we walk at the drop of the hat does that mean we can be locked out?
Instead of a picket line how about a Sit In.
baking them slowly allows more of the same.
Expression of interest for J* japan already out , whats next?
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From many different people I have spoken to you are definitely winning the support of the Public, keep up the great work Steve. 
They just had a bit about it on the radio news here this morning, the Qantas PR Lady was NOT very convincing at all.
They just had a bit about it on the radio news here this morning, the Qantas PR Lady was NOT very convincing at all.
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If we walk at the drop of the hat does that mean we can be locked out?
Instead of a picket line how about a Sit In.
baking them slowly allows more of the same.
Expression of interest for J* japan already out , whats next?
If we walk at the drop of the hat does that mean we can be locked out?
Instead of a picket line how about a Sit In.
baking them slowly allows more of the same.
Expression of interest for J* japan already out , whats next?
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Yes guys,
Qantas can always respond to our action with their own. The only option available to Qantas is a lockout without pay and it is entirely legal. If they do it they must notify us first but 3 days notice is not required. If they do it however, we can also respond without 3 days notice and for us a whole lot of options are available. We could for example immediately -
Walk off Australia wide
Walk off in select locations
Change our work practices
Do nothing immediately but respond in the morning
Work to rule
Put on OT bans
The list is really endless
If we respond by taking an action straight away, we have to write to Qantas but no notice period is required. eg, I write to Qf at 0700 in morning to say we are walking off for one hour at 0701. I send a text message to members and away we go.
I think it unlikely to play out like this though as Qantas would be blamed for the escalation by locking our members out. Who knows though, they may just be crazy enough to do it.
Qantas can always respond to our action with their own. The only option available to Qantas is a lockout without pay and it is entirely legal. If they do it they must notify us first but 3 days notice is not required. If they do it however, we can also respond without 3 days notice and for us a whole lot of options are available. We could for example immediately -
Walk off Australia wide
Walk off in select locations
Change our work practices
Do nothing immediately but respond in the morning
Work to rule
Put on OT bans
The list is really endless
If we respond by taking an action straight away, we have to write to Qantas but no notice period is required. eg, I write to Qf at 0700 in morning to say we are walking off for one hour at 0701. I send a text message to members and away we go.
I think it unlikely to play out like this though as Qantas would be blamed for the escalation by locking our members out. Who knows though, they may just be crazy enough to do it.
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Steve,
A bit of clarification please.
They just had that story on the radio news here in Brisbane again, great story about what is happening, and about although it was unusual how the ALAEA have offered to provide coverage for these 1 hour stoppages so as to NOT disrupt the travelling Public.
Then however they had some Qantas PR Woman come on and say that no Company including Qantas was going to pay people 8 hours pay to cover their Mates stopping for 1 hour.
Unless things have changed dramatically since I retired that is NOT true is it? The LAMEs extending 1 hour would just get 1 hours overtime, 2 hours pay, and the ones stopping for 1 hour at the start of night shift would LOSE 1 hours pay plus any shift penalty, so the cost to Qantas would be LESS than 1 hours pay, yes???
8 hours pay would, I think, only apply if someone was called in, yes?
Why do Qantas continually put out such untruths.
A bit of clarification please.
They just had that story on the radio news here in Brisbane again, great story about what is happening, and about although it was unusual how the ALAEA have offered to provide coverage for these 1 hour stoppages so as to NOT disrupt the travelling Public.
Then however they had some Qantas PR Woman come on and say that no Company including Qantas was going to pay people 8 hours pay to cover their Mates stopping for 1 hour.
Unless things have changed dramatically since I retired that is NOT true is it? The LAMEs extending 1 hour would just get 1 hours overtime, 2 hours pay, and the ones stopping for 1 hour at the start of night shift would LOSE 1 hours pay plus any shift penalty, so the cost to Qantas would be LESS than 1 hours pay, yes???
8 hours pay would, I think, only apply if someone was called in, yes?
Why do Qantas continually put out such untruths.
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Qantas are in the business of misleading the public mate. They just say anything and the way they twist things they could say -
Why would we pay 24 hours pay to cover a 1 hour stoppage?
No wonder the members don't trust a word they say.
Why would we pay 24 hours pay to cover a 1 hour stoppage?
No wonder the members don't trust a word they say.
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Qantas are in the business of misleading the public mate.
I thought they were supposed to be in the business of safely transporting the public.
IF the Qantas PR people, and Management in general, spent half as much time trying to run Qantas properly instead of speading untruths in the media things would be so much better.
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They aren't being misleading, they are probably just following the advice of their crooked accountants. 1hr = 8hr???. Same accounting used to cook the books.
Or they may be getting mixed up and if a LAME stops work for 1 hr then the manager used to replace him would have to work 8 hrs for the same output.
Aaah how times have changed. I seem to remember being dragged in front of my manager and HR who tried to force me to work 1 hour OT last dispute.
Or they may be getting mixed up and if a LAME stops work for 1 hr then the manager used to replace him would have to work 8 hrs for the same output.
Aaah how times have changed. I seem to remember being dragged in front of my manager and HR who tried to force me to work 1 hour OT last dispute.
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I just can NOT believe the way Qantas is being run now. 
My Wife who is a fairly frequent flyer with Qantas, maybe not much longer now though, travelled today with them from BNE to DRW.
We did the right thing and made sure she was all booked properly, checked in yesterday, and at the airport in plenty of time, then her flight was almost an hour late.
Yes it happens sometimes, but when I just spoke to her she said the aircraft was towed on to the bay way after the scheduled departure time.
Just did some checking, the flight is late every day, apparently it arrives in BNE on an International flight and has to be moved to the Domestic terminal for the DRW flight.
Now why is it Qantas have unlimited people to spread untruths in the media about their Employees but nobody to sort out things like this that happen every day, OR anyone to apologise to the long suffering pax as they did NOT do today.
My Wife who is a fairly frequent flyer with Qantas, maybe not much longer now though, travelled today with them from BNE to DRW.
We did the right thing and made sure she was all booked properly, checked in yesterday, and at the airport in plenty of time, then her flight was almost an hour late.
Yes it happens sometimes, but when I just spoke to her she said the aircraft was towed on to the bay way after the scheduled departure time.
Just did some checking, the flight is late every day, apparently it arrives in BNE on an International flight and has to be moved to the Domestic terminal for the DRW flight.
Now why is it Qantas have unlimited people to spread untruths in the media about their Employees but nobody to sort out things like this that happen every day, OR anyone to apologise to the long suffering pax as they did NOT do today.
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Steve,
I think it also important to point out in the media, that the majority of engineers have been with the company for a very long time and will be there for a long time to come, so with few opportunities for employment elsewhere it is in our best interest for the company to perform and succeed.
Of course the executives and managers move on after their contract period, holding a fist full of dollars regardless of the state of the company.
Who REALLY cares more?
I think it also important to point out in the media, that the majority of engineers have been with the company for a very long time and will be there for a long time to come, so with few opportunities for employment elsewhere it is in our best interest for the company to perform and succeed.
Of course the executives and managers move on after their contract period, holding a fist full of dollars regardless of the state of the company.
Who REALLY cares more?
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It was a bit of a non event. Plenty of managers around taking note of who turned up at 1800 hrs. AMEs were tasked with a bit of housekeeping. Unfortunately there was a bit of sickness about. 1 hr in base at the start of night shift was never going to have a big impact.