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Old 13th Aug 2011, 21:27
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I would be concerned about it if I had to fly with them.
I am concerned.

Sounds like Qantas have all the wheels in motion to get around any EBAs or agreements.
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Old 14th Aug 2011, 01:50
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Start a petition to get Aviation off the endangered list!

Maybe it's time that the industry start to look at the big picture?
Start a petition to get aviation off the short list so that the 457 visa's can be shut down for our industry! So iIf QF, 1star want to make people redundent in their respected fields they can't employ foriegners to do our JOBS!
It used to be if a job was made redundent that position couldn't be back filled by someone for a few years, I don't know what the rules are today?
This only counts if the respected company does not create a new entity though which is what QF seem to be doing.
There is a lot of engineers in OZ who are either waiting on a LAME position or can't even break into the OZ airlines, alot of younger people itching to have a shot!
There is no shortage of engineers is what I am trying to say but alot of companies trying to get people to work for crap conditions managers and companies get more money workers getting less.
Engineers are a very important part of the industry it takes many years to get to where we are, many more once licensed.
If you think you can train someone in weeks or months you are dreaming!

Am I wrong or have I been kidding myself all these years?
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Old 15th Aug 2011, 00:38
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I'll second that petition!
AMSA think it is quite ok to 457 any moron in, instead of investing in training their own local staff. This is compounded by the introduction to the Part 66 Licence system by CASA. Local staff are expected to pay for their own conversion courses - anywhere from $6000 to $10,000, plus time off from work. This cr@p needs to stop!
There is not a lack of local staff, only training investment.
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Old 15th Aug 2011, 00:48
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What on Earth has happened to our once great and safe Industry in Australia.

From the lack of training, importing cheap labour, ridiculous reduction in our Aussie Licence down to the European style, and now LAMEless tarmac and preflights.

This is one BIG mother of a disaster waiting to happen.
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Old 15th Aug 2011, 09:44
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ACTION BEFORE ITS TOO LATE

While every QF employee waits for 24th August, Isnt it about time some Action be taken.
Lets get real once the board release their grand plans does anyone really think they will change.
not wanting to sound like a defeatest but what decision has been reversed with this current managers?

none
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Old 15th Aug 2011, 10:22
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ACTION BEFORE ITS TOO LATE HOW TRUE BUT I THINK ITS BEEN LEFT TO LATE 1 MINUTE STOPPAGE AND LEFT HAND ONLY STUFF WAS JUST A FARCE.
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Old 15th Aug 2011, 10:54
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agree, lets get on with it
o/t bans and higher duties bans.
game on.
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Old 15th Aug 2011, 11:12
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If we wait until the 24th you might find that the whole country is behind us if that mathematician announces what we expect. If we go earlier he will use it as the excuse.

I know it is hard but there is a bank over the way, pull up a seat and watch the river.
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Old 15th Aug 2011, 11:23
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If we go earlier he will use it as the excuse.
And wouldn't he love to!!
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Old 15th Aug 2011, 11:24
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In FED SEC we trust. Long live FED SEC.
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Old 15th Aug 2011, 12:02
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I know it is hard but there is a bank over the way, pull up a seat and watch the river.
I hope the current is strong, Sensei!
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Old 15th Aug 2011, 12:09
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If we wait until the 24th you might find that the whole country is behind us
I think we will find the whole country is behind us for about the 1 minute splash it will get on the news then they will move on look at the people from SPC an Australian Fruit company they are gone or going and everyone else has moved on nothing more will be heard of them.
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Old 15th Aug 2011, 12:28
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Perhaps Jethro

But the buffoons in head office don't seem to realise that if it's a move to Asia on the cards the only quality left in the red rat, its Australianess, ceases the be the remaining drawcard for people to choose to fly Qantas in the first place.

SQ, EK, EY, MH, CX, TG, they all service OZ, they all have nicer aircraft, they all have better forward connections to more destinations west of Australia then SIN, BKK and LHR.

What's to stop anyone choosing the competition if the single major factor in people's choice to fly QF is gone and its just a poor competitor with tired aircraft except for a few A380s?

Fleet planning = ultimate failure. Blame GD, he set this course.
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Old 15th Aug 2011, 12:37
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Fleet planning = ultimate failure. Blame GD, he set this course.
Correct And walked away with a heap of cash we could not jump over.
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Old 15th Aug 2011, 12:58
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I think you could actually go back to Strong and Toomey.
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Old 16th Aug 2011, 07:13
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One of the biggest complaints from frequent flyers is turning up and finding you aren't on a Qantas aircraft. Now you are guaranteed not to be on one. I can hear the frequent flyers running now.

You think 150 million was a hefty bill last time, this time its personal. And I don't really care what you offer me now AJ cause whilst you are in charge it don't matter. I have nothing to lose now.

500 million dollar profit and the company is in trouble. American economy here we come.

GREEDY CORPORATE MOTHER .

Anyone know where the French put those guillotines after last time. Oh hang on thats right I can you over better with my ALAEA/AIPA pen.

LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!!!
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Old 16th Aug 2011, 09:37
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35 redundancies in Base
60 redundancies SIO and SDO

when exactly do we start some ACTION ?
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Old 16th Aug 2011, 09:58
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It won't be long.
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Old 16th Aug 2011, 10:02
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Got the M.E.L. pen, very ready to use it.
Defects are appearing everywhere.
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Avalon told today no changes.
Many do not believe it the true believers do.
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