Qf LAME EBA Negotiations Begin
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top 9 execs at Q so proud of posting profit gave themselves big back slap and 58% increase in wages
when will the penny drop?
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ffs if its not an irishman doing a woe is me and chest beating to the world that the old red rat is going down the drain 
, its prima donnas and their lost customer payment or service points
, i lost out too but you don't see me gettin on my soapbox I just take my sights on the manager that stole it from me, sorry bout the rant after all it is late.
, its prima donnas and their lost customer payment or service points, i lost out too but you don't see me gettin on my soapbox I just take my sights on the manager that stole it from me, sorry bout the rant after all it is late.
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When my ballot paper arrived, my first thoughts were to vote yes. I've been thinking long and hard about how I will vote. I can't find any reason why I would even consider putting a tick in the No box. Congratulations Bexley, another YES vote posted to the AEC.
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As long as we "tender" for "our" own work I will tender my yes vote.
Yesssssssssss!
The one thing that makes this Airline great was it's reputation for safety. This fight will save our jobs and our airline, not destroy it.
Yesssssssssss!
The one thing that makes this Airline great was it's reputation for safety. This fight will save our jobs and our airline, not destroy it.
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If Qf and Ian are thinking of settling old scores before putting the airline first, I am sure the shareholder will soon figure that out fast!
The general public I speak to this time around are asking me...
"Wow, 9000+ pissed off staff, what is going on over at Qantas, what are they doing?"
"How can Qantas let the situation get to this?"
"Are we going to hear about a crash, I am too scared to fly Qantas now, are they safe?"
The general public are over hearing about Aircraft defects, PIA, delayed and cancelled flights due to QF miss-management.
The general public I speak to this time around are asking me...
"Wow, 9000+ pissed off staff, what is going on over at Qantas, what are they doing?"
"How can Qantas let the situation get to this?"
"Are we going to hear about a crash, I am too scared to fly Qantas now, are they safe?"
The general public are over hearing about Aircraft defects, PIA, delayed and cancelled flights due to QF miss-management.
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I am dumb, so dumb , it has taken me ages to figure out what lay behind the training points proposal . I could not understand it , then a little bird whispered in my ear ( actually it was an old mate in base maint ) it goes this way , all the top flyers the L13 etc upwards who are stopped by quota would be freed up , big pay rises for them . Then i realised that the old "self Interest" had driven this proposal , yes folks the negotiators stand to benefit most . PC and WB and their mates are the winners . So when you vote to take PIA , understand who you are benefiting . As Jim Royle would say Unionists my *rse
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G.H in Cns
Rumour has it that after visiting Singapore G.H dropped in at Cairns to word up his Dmm sc$bs! With not much work they don't realise but once they have helped out the company in this PIA their heads will be on the chopping block. The company can't justify having 2 Dmm's there with minimal work. Hope you guys have saved all your O.T money from last PIA because aviation is a small industry , everyone knows about them. Maybee they can go to the railways. 
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I am dumb, so dumb , it has taken me ages to figure out what lay behind the training points proposal .
Old Ianmeadow's tactics worked for many years but wake up to yourself it's a different Executive these days!
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and meanwile, here we are maintaining multi-million dollar aircraft with clapped out ground equipment, lack of tooling, lack of hangar sspace, lack of support workshop personell, lack of manpower
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Good luck boys,let the games begin.......beware the jubb jubb bird and hark the furious bandasnatch,evil lies in the strangest places.
Remember last time some peoples colours where truly shown and will never be
forgiven......"tell your heart that the fear of suffering is worse than the suffering itself,and no heart has ever suffered when it goes in search of its dream"
Remember last time some peoples colours where truly shown and will never be
forgiven......"tell your heart that the fear of suffering is worse than the suffering itself,and no heart has ever suffered when it goes in search of its dream"
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It is easy to convince yourself of all the downfalls regarding the place you work. I have been there and been through it.
You sit in the lunch room discussing how bad the conditions are. Everybody has their own example of when it all went pear shaped...."I tried to get the tooling out of store the other night and they had sent it interstate, why they dont have two sets of the tooling based here is beyond me". "I tried to book out a few -5 screws and they only had -6's. Lucky for them they had thicker washers and I could get the aircraft going again".
I bet somebody even sat in the lunchroom who had been to a Lufthansa facility in Frankfurt and said it left anything Qantas has for dead.
You hear all this stuff in the workplace so it must be gospel and sure enough given time, in your mind it is. Sooner or later you even begin to tell the story you heard in the lunchroom about this fantastic facility that Lufthansa has in Frankfurt to other people, in the first person, just like the person you heard it from was telling it to his willing audience of world travelled listeners in the first person when you first heard it.
Overall Qantas has excellent facilities, spares, manpower levels, tooling, ground equipment, and I am sure a lot of stuff most other workplaces only dream of having. To suggest otherwise is naieve at best.
What Qantas dont have is a decent pay scale. That is what you should be talking about because convincing yourself that everything at Qantas is second rate because you dont like their IR tactics only makes you look foolish and it sticks out like a baby crying for its mothers teat.
What qualifies me to suggest any of this you are probably asking??? I know too many people who have and do work at Qantas. If we weren't hiding behind the anonimity of this forum I may even know you. If I didnt I would know somebody who does.
Wake up and fight for a way to get above any decent level on your pay scale without having to wait 30 years....That is what is important.
You sit in the lunch room discussing how bad the conditions are. Everybody has their own example of when it all went pear shaped...."I tried to get the tooling out of store the other night and they had sent it interstate, why they dont have two sets of the tooling based here is beyond me". "I tried to book out a few -5 screws and they only had -6's. Lucky for them they had thicker washers and I could get the aircraft going again".
I bet somebody even sat in the lunchroom who had been to a Lufthansa facility in Frankfurt and said it left anything Qantas has for dead.
You hear all this stuff in the workplace so it must be gospel and sure enough given time, in your mind it is. Sooner or later you even begin to tell the story you heard in the lunchroom about this fantastic facility that Lufthansa has in Frankfurt to other people, in the first person, just like the person you heard it from was telling it to his willing audience of world travelled listeners in the first person when you first heard it.
Overall Qantas has excellent facilities, spares, manpower levels, tooling, ground equipment, and I am sure a lot of stuff most other workplaces only dream of having. To suggest otherwise is naieve at best.
What Qantas dont have is a decent pay scale. That is what you should be talking about because convincing yourself that everything at Qantas is second rate because you dont like their IR tactics only makes you look foolish and it sticks out like a baby crying for its mothers teat.
What qualifies me to suggest any of this you are probably asking??? I know too many people who have and do work at Qantas. If we weren't hiding behind the anonimity of this forum I may even know you. If I didnt I would know somebody who does.
Wake up and fight for a way to get above any decent level on your pay scale without having to wait 30 years....That is what is important.
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Well , i can only offer you blokes advice , I went through some of the most bitter disputes , 1981 Pilots vs Cabin crew being one and i know how some union Officilas think and work to benefit themselves . But , you all seem to know it all , so find out how I did THE HARD WAY best of luck . If you only you the half of what they get up to , a certain executive member was given a dream ride to supervisor and he is negotiating for you , reckon he owes a favour or two, I DO