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Old 10th Dec 2008, 12:26
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Coral....

As said in another 'place'......

Just a little to the SW of the "H" in 'Here' would do nicely.....
PERMANENTLY!!!

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Hello, Mr Albanese......as in "HOUSTON, We Have A Problem..."

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Old 11th Dec 2008, 05:21
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Check out the new toy on the net.

Airservices Australia - Aircraft Noise - WebTrak Locations

cost 20 million.
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Old 11th Dec 2008, 05:53
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Easily paid for from the savings on the travel budget with the departure of the GM Business Developement.
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Old 11th Dec 2008, 08:06
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Another GM gone in AsA

Gosh hasn't TFN been so unlucky with the quality of his GMs.

Now if he had chosen them maybe the GMs are not the problem but him....Hang on, he did!!
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Old 11th Dec 2008, 20:05
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Last day for a checkie this Wednesday, off to Ireland.
Another retiring this Friday, had enough, going early.
Retirement and leaving drinks for 5 in Sydney last Tuesday.
Good luck to all.
Others waiting for EBA outcomes to make decisions.
One was asked in Brisbane by manager about their intentions and the reply was "You'll be the last to know"

"There are no Americans in Baghdad"
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Old 11th Dec 2008, 20:07
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with the departure of the GM Business Developement.
Has there been another exit from the Departure Lounge?
I haven't heard. Please tell me it is the GSH? Please......
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Old 12th Dec 2008, 08:58
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Blind Freddy ---- Sorry but no...

GSH was not and hopefully never will be a GM even though TFN treats him like his first born....

No, this time it is WE, yep the manager of the Departure Lounge has departed!

Rumours have it the Departure Lounge will be closed down??

As it never had any staff to mix the drinks when anyone asked for one...
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Old 12th Dec 2008, 11:04
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we all know GSH is incompetant but WE was taken down by finacial irregularities and sadly not general business competance
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Old 12th Dec 2008, 18:41
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WE? Could someone enlighten those of us out in the GAFA who the f@r Ca*al WE is?.

Still happy to see him/her go though! TFN your time approaches....

WTF is a 'Departure Lounge'? I thought we only had more and more arrivals at AWB....
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Old 12th Dec 2008, 21:17
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Boree,

Can't help with WE, couple of guesses at the departure lounge.

NOC shop and SMG, both appear to be good for nothing.

GSH must be an excellent fluffer!

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Old 12th Dec 2008, 21:36
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Departure Lounge

The "departure lounge" is the AsA Business Unit called "Business Development" and "WE" was the General Manager.

Called the "departure lounge" for the astute observation that when any manager from any other business unit takes a job there, they leave the company soon afterwards!

"WE" was supposed to be TEFLONed due to some special relationship with the CEO but previous posts refer to some strange financial dealings. No idea asking around BN Centre except the country "Phillipines" gets mentioned???
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Things that TFN has overseen that do bugger-all and cost a whack.
1. Azimuth , Airspace and sundry publications.
2. National Operations Centre (NOC shop)
3. International Offices (to grow the 'brand' globally. WTF)
4. Webtrak
5. Taking away about 100 operational controllers and making them ATS Front Line Managers (ALMs) now costing the industry around $180-200k each.
6. The oh so inaptly named Service Delivery Environment (SDE) project, that has delivered nothing but inefficiencies.
7. The 'streamlining' of the training area. Which was streamlined to such an extent it pretty much ceased to function.

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8. 19 redundacies from Ausfic as a result of the Ausfic Services Review.
9. Recruiting staff to work in Ausfic before all the 19 redundacies from Ausfic as a result of the Ausfic Services Review had actually left ASA.

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Old 13th Dec 2008, 22:20
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Ausfic

'Centre what's the VHF Flightwatch frequency around here?'
'It was removed, now it's the ATC frequency'
'Oh well okay request TTF Melbourne'
'Unable due workload'

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............?

Surely from FL400 you could see Melbourne.

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Old 16th Dec 2008, 01:50
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So what's all this about....any truth or just a rumour...?

Crikey...

Minister Albanese (and the government) has become sick of the Air Traffic Control battle in the skies. He has set a meeting between the parties scheduled for this Wednesday; both unions and employer representatives will be present at the "round table".

Apparently they are planning to get tough with the "renegade union" who is enforcing sick outs as a covert way of placing industrial pressure on the government and it's employer of controllers -- Airservices Australia. A MUA style power break up is on the cards and they are planning to crush that "pissy little union" (Civil Air) to prove that whilst the government is giving more rights to workers they actually are tough on unions.
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Old 16th Dec 2008, 03:17
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What a truly silly little circle this is.

1) Airservices cut staff, mismanage and screw controllers during a period of record growth and profit.
2) Airlines and passengers suffer the fallout.
3) Airlines pressure Minister For Qantas.
4) Minister For Qantas pressures Airservices.
5) Go to 1).
6) Repeat ad infinitum.

And to think there is such a simple solution.....

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Old 16th Dec 2008, 03:24
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Nah, I can't believe that a minister of the Crown would be so stupid as to unquestioningly accept arguments to the effect that you guys are a bunch of recalcitrant, irresponsible, agenda-driven, selfish and safety-threatening bustards.

After all, you've got to be smart to be a minister and, by implication, you'd have to be smarter still to be an advisor to the minister, in order to tell the minister what it is the minister should be thinking.

On the other hand.....
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Howabout,

Maaaate,

You have to be organised to have a conspiracy.

Pleaaaaaase tell me that you at not alleging that these mobs are organised!

Coz if you are, you are giving them waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much credit!!!!
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Old 16th Dec 2008, 05:47
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Can anyone actually confirm if this 'meeting' is happening?

I guess, either way, someone leaked the story to Crikey. Controller/manager relations are quite obviously very bad - amazing given all the 'courses' these 'managers' seem to do.

How does AsA manage to attract any employees with this kind of relationship out in the public eye?
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