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2 years as effo??
more like waltz right into a DEC coz training department dont have the resources to train effos or cant be assed spending the $$ to upgrade them even tho they bond em apparently
more like waltz right into a DEC coz training department dont have the resources to train effos or cant be assed spending the $$ to upgrade them even tho they bond em apparently
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Other big issues are you cough up 30K plus in advance for the endo and you don't get told where your going until you have packed your car with your kids and toys.
Edit; Also if you pay the 30K and they go broke or pull out before you get command its a waist of money and effort cause probably by then this round of recruiting will be over and we'll be in recession again. Down to the CES and line up with the masses of A320 pilots.
I'm known for my positive attitude you know!
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Edit; Also if you pay the 30K and they go broke or pull out before you get command its a waist of money and effort cause probably by then this round of recruiting will be over and we'll be in recession again. Down to the CES and line up with the masses of A320 pilots.
I'm known for my positive attitude you know!
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Besides, why would you go to Tiger when you could just as easily go to Jetstar on better terms and conditions?
Staff travel in another universe by comparison. Pay, well maybe similar on the surface except Jet* guys not praying for minimum 75 hrs a month every time roster comes out, which may not happen in times of expansion due training. That and you dont get a big paycut for taking holidays in Jet* ( Tiger only get base during holidays, right ? )Boocs, no, command time on the other brand
But this guy still has more airbus experience/command time than some of the skippers I know in Tiger ( some of which were DEC with zero Airbus time ). The biggest thing he has going against him is the lack of mouldy blue shirts in his closet 
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Really though, if you think back 12 months or so VB were looking at unloading crew (60 or so). If the economy wasn't spoon fed massive amounts of stimulus I believe the recession would have been far worse. If you look at the situation as it currently looks, interest rates are on the up, credit is still easy to get, wages have stalled, the stock market is largly recovered and debt levels are still increasing.
So whats changed, we are all a little poorer due to having to pay back our national creditor's for our stimulus package. If the economy dips again I'm not sure the government will be able to raise the funds to bail us out again, and even if they could i'm not sure its a good thing. America will be the big winner as they have had their recession, rates are low, housing prices are low and a lot of debt has been written off. Now they can start fresh and make a new start. History has shown the economy needs that cleansing to stay healthy.
We are currently experiencing massive growth in the airline industry over a very short space of time, if the bubble bursts, and i'm not saying it will, it will be bad. A lot of guys are getting qualified on jets and this is creating a vacuum in GA. Top end GA pay is growing fairly rapidly whilst the bottom end is still pretty bad, its not uncommon to find a King Air pilot earning well over 100K these days although probably less likely in a capital city.
So I do hope that Tiger stay around for the sake of our industry, the last thing I want to re-live is a repeat of the 90's, man that was bad. Way too many pilots unemployed. At the end of the day they have the lowest costs and that will hold them in good stead to weather any storm that may be on its way although of course they will need to make some profit at some point.
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Really though, if you think back 12 months or so VB were looking at unloading crew (60 or so). If the economy wasn't spoon fed massive amounts of stimulus I believe the recession would have been far worse. If you look at the situation as it currently looks, interest rates are on the up, credit is still easy to get, wages have stalled, the stock market is largly recovered and debt levels are still increasing.
So whats changed, we are all a little poorer due to having to pay back our national creditor's for our stimulus package. If the economy dips again I'm not sure the government will be able to raise the funds to bail us out again, and even if they could i'm not sure its a good thing. America will be the big winner as they have had their recession, rates are low, housing prices are low and a lot of debt has been written off. Now they can start fresh and make a new start. History has shown the economy needs that cleansing to stay healthy.
We are currently experiencing massive growth in the airline industry over a very short space of time, if the bubble bursts, and i'm not saying it will, it will be bad. A lot of guys are getting qualified on jets and this is creating a vacuum in GA. Top end GA pay is growing fairly rapidly whilst the bottom end is still pretty bad, its not uncommon to find a King Air pilot earning well over 100K these days although probably less likely in a capital city.
So I do hope that Tiger stay around for the sake of our industry, the last thing I want to re-live is a repeat of the 90's, man that was bad. Way too many pilots unemployed. At the end of the day they have the lowest costs and that will hold them in good stead to weather any storm that may be on its way although of course they will need to make some profit at some point.
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I was just reading an article that stated the Hyundai is the only manufacturer of cars that was able to increase sales over the first 7 months of the FY. All other manufacturers went south. People are abandoning traditional brands to go for the cheaper option because times are tough.
This is one thing tiger have in their favour should there be another recession, people will go for the cheaper fare and the airline best situated to offer the cheapest fares is the one with the lowest cost base, TIGER.
I reckeon they would be fools to pull out of OZ. We may be looking at an airline that will add capacity as fast as they can if a recession or downturn hits an stagnates when times are good.
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This is one thing tiger have in their favour should there be another recession, people will go for the cheaper fare and the airline best situated to offer the cheapest fares is the one with the lowest cost base, TIGER.
I reckeon they would be fools to pull out of OZ. We may be looking at an airline that will add capacity as fast as they can if a recession or downturn hits an stagnates when times are good.
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And by the sounds of things, Davis seems very keen in gettting another Tiger subsidiary up and running in Asia somewhere, assuming Thailand or Philippines. Getting the marketshare now is key before AirAsia does, just look at their proposed Vietnam venture. If Tiger was wanting to wait until they were significantly profitable (say 2/3 years away), well AK would have doubled its fleet and would be taking over the region. Very important for Tiger to get in early, even if it means no dividends to be paid/ or using TR/TTs profit to subsidise the new airline. I note there is $10m allocated from the IPO for initial startup costs which was the same as Australia.
The battle between AirAsia and Tiger over the next 5 years is going to be very tough, well Tiger seems to be winning the battle against Jetstar Asia and sounds like it will shift focus to AirAsia now.
The battle between AirAsia and Tiger over the next 5 years is going to be very tough, well Tiger seems to be winning the battle against Jetstar Asia and sounds like it will shift focus to AirAsia now.
Yes they must be hard up for candidates. Pprunners will remember our 'good mate' High Altitude and the van that drove itself off the road!
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"Son's flight this morning just delayed an hour. He has just learned an important lesson."
Yeah, after all, I've never had a late flight with Jetstar/Qantas/Virgin - must be great to be great Sunfish & Enema
Yeah, after all, I've never had a late flight with Jetstar/Qantas/Virgin - must be great to be great Sunfish & Enema
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Ah High Altitude - those were the days eh slice?
How many boys are having a laugh clicking on the link to see old mate fondling the Tiger.
That pilot shortage was worse than I thought, clearly!
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How many boys are having a laugh clicking on the link to see old mate fondling the Tiger.
That pilot shortage was worse than I thought, clearly!
Classic
