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Old 11th May 2008, 09:20
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Could we all see a copy of the BALPA document, Chocks?
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Old 11th May 2008, 17:11
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Hey Basil Brush.....

So cunning you can pin a tail on it and call it a fox!!

I for one - as one of those dispised expat Oz drivers - firmly told them NO from the gekko.

Suggest you get a grip on reality my son.

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Old 11th May 2008, 17:32
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The initial 'start up' pilots for DJ were experienced jet/airline operators.
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Old 11th May 2008, 22:50
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Could we all see a copy of the BALPA document, Chocks?

Haven't seen one as it was word of mouth from there.
I've combed their site but looks like you require a log-in, for such info.
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Old 11th May 2008, 22:52
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Chocks away - spot on.
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Old 14th May 2008, 07:18
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So has anybody been offered a job or start date yet,all very quiet again.......
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Old 14th May 2008, 08:09
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I think you'll find that the first group of cruise f/os are on an endorsement course in Sydney as we speak.......type
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Old 14th May 2008, 10:44
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Three EK Training Captains joining so far. Interviews last week in Dubai will yield a few more.
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Old 15th May 2008, 12:24
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Can you give us a hint (initials?) on who the third is, (apart fro KP and DK)?
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Old 15th May 2008, 13:18
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The third guy is PH
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Old 15th May 2008, 23:59
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Oz Aviation today quoted BG as saying the costing for V Oz had been done at $70 barrel of oil with worst case $110. The price of oil per barrel is now at $162.
The share price hovers around 79c.
Must say I am not tempted to join this mob..........unless ofcourse I was about to retire.
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Old 16th May 2008, 07:53
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greenslopes, your piece of news is one of many major warning signs anyone who reads the press will have seen, particularly since January, when the economic situation in the US really started looking 'interesting'. (Not that is hasn't looked 'interesting' for years now - it's just that most have chosen to ignore its more 'interesting' aspects.)

Given the Oz Avn article you quote and the other pointers to VOz' entry into the market being tenuous at best, the number of starters they get from EK, particularly those with young families and more than a year or two to retirement, will be a clear indication of just how disenchanted the pilot workforce at EK has become with life in the Sandpit. I for one suspect that more will go despite the risks and the almost insulting pay than many might imagine, such is the level of disenchantment with Dubai (rather than with Emirates).
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Old 17th May 2008, 11:21
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Greenslopes - the price of a barrell of Jet fuel is $162.
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Old 17th May 2008, 11:28
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So are you inferring that VA will be using biofuel??
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Old 17th May 2008, 12:13
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It will be interesting to see just how many EK/SQ/ etc guys take the job.I imagine alot of them will pull out and opt for job security.Although the VB pilots have a clause which enables them to go back if it all goes tits up I would think you would have to be foolish to even bother.The money is not the best let alone the costs involved in commuting in and out of Sydney.Hopefully they all will not have burnt bridges with their previous employer if this ambitous project fails.Good luck to all.
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Old 17th May 2008, 20:53
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I don't see what's so ambitious about it. QF have been ripping people off for years on the Pacific and people want an alternative to what is effectively (yes I know United occasionally fly the route but that's not competition) a monopoly.

V Aus will make a killing on the Pacific and to Japan.

But yes they need to base outside Sydney and also make user-friendly rosters. With airlines in Hong Kong and the UAE improving their packages recently it will be a challenge getting the right people.
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Old 18th May 2008, 03:24
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I don't see how V Australia would take on this type of project if they were not closely and maturely watching the cost of fuel. They may be offering low pay, but surely they aren't stupid. Surely a B777 will be far more efficient (cost per seat) across the pacific than a B744. In terms of competing, surely they'll win hands down, particularly with a three class product. Fuel costs are hurting everyone.....

Any word on other routes?

By the way, any idea if they'll be wearing the brown trousers......and no tie!!
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Old 18th May 2008, 07:24
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Latest info is VA and VB will have same uniform(or lack of it!).
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Old 18th May 2008, 07:58
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Fumes re other routes;

BN-LA
ML-LA
AKL-LA
SY-Shanghai
SY-HKG

For starters
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Old 18th May 2008, 08:22
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Melbourne to la in a 777?
I would of thought sy-la would be a little tight but ml-la!!!!
What sort of range does a 777 have?
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