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Flying with a different carrier is just common sence(something you and i would do).But P.A.F is a moron and people like him is why there is a saying now that "common sence isnt that common".Incovenience to our customers will be unfortunate but unlike you P.A.F we have the balls to stick up for ourselves.
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Why, why, why, do you guys keep posting here?
You are making yourselves look like fools to all and sundry because of the thuggish nature of some of your more immature posters!
Keep all this stuff in house, in private, on your own website. Not on an open pilots forum!
Strewth!...I thought you guys were supposed to be sophisticated!
You are making yourselves look like fools to all and sundry because of the thuggish nature of some of your more immature posters!
Keep all this stuff in house, in private, on your own website. Not on an open pilots forum!
Strewth!...I thought you guys were supposed to be sophisticated!
You answered your own question. If you don't wish to go elsewhere then suck it up. If you don't wish to go elsewhere the company that is providing the millions of dollars required to produce the income to pay your wage has the upper hand.
You may not like capitalism but it's the best economic system mankind has ever come up with, you and I have to live with it. I'd like more money for what I do too. I'm not saying you should or shouldn't be paid more. I'm saying take the hand you are dealt. Why? Because your alternative is to hurt hundreds of thousands of other people in ways you will never know.
You may not like capitalism but it's the best economic system mankind has ever come up with, you and I have to live with it. I'd like more money for what I do too. I'm not saying you should or shouldn't be paid more. I'm saying take the hand you are dealt. Why? Because your alternative is to hurt hundreds of thousands of other people in ways you will never know.
The by product of inflation means that the cost of living goes up. Therefore generally, employees should be entitled to get a pay rise every year (that the EBA system has provisions for increased productivity and flexibility in return for said pay rises) that at least goes up in line with inflation. That is how most people think.
Why, why, why, do you guys keep posting here?
You are making yourselves look like fools to all and sundry because of the thuggish nature of some of your more immature posters!
Keep all this stuff in house, in private, on your own website. Not on an open pilots forum!
Strewth!...I thought you guys were supposed to be sophisticated!
You are making yourselves look like fools to all and sundry because of the thuggish nature of some of your more immature posters!
Keep all this stuff in house, in private, on your own website. Not on an open pilots forum!
Strewth!...I thought you guys were supposed to be sophisticated!
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Originally Posted by 600ft-lb
Capitalist societies rely on prices going up, ie inflation, to drive growth.
Care to explain that one?
Therefore generally, employees should be entitled to get a pay rise every year
Horse and Cart drivers??? It's just an endless cycle up right? Nothing else effects the price of labour right? 
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PAF said
“Life wasn't supposed to be a gift of jobs with endless pay rises.”
We are not after a pay rise. We are just trying to keep up with inflation. Over the years with GD we have gone backwards.
As for “go elsewhere”. Most of us are just dieing for a VR package.
No Package…oh well, I’ll just stay with my ring-side seats at the show. Just stay calm PAF, act 1 is about to start.
“Life wasn't supposed to be a gift of jobs with endless pay rises.”
We are not after a pay rise. We are just trying to keep up with inflation. Over the years with GD we have gone backwards.
As for “go elsewhere”. Most of us are just dieing for a VR package.
No Package…oh well, I’ll just stay with my ring-side seats at the show. Just stay calm PAF, act 1 is about to start.
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Great Stuff PAF
Well said PAF, these militants here are in for a rude shock, called LOCK OUT....will be intersting to see
why dont you all go away and resign ...
if QF is so bad, there is a shortage of LAMES so all you valuable employees will have no trouble securing alternative high paying jobs.
I look foward to your intelligent and articulate responses.
Heaps of jobs out there guys, so why not leave, so that we that want to work for this great Australian Icon can do so in peace.
why dont you all go away and resign ...
if QF is so bad, there is a shortage of LAMES so all you valuable employees will have no trouble securing alternative high paying jobs.
I look foward to your intelligent and articulate responses.
Heaps of jobs out there guys, so why not leave, so that we that want to work for this great Australian Icon can do so in peace.
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PAF is just a rabid right wing s?@t stirrer trying to get this thread closed.
The ADF is rife with poor decision makers bungling all sorts of projects. Its not surprising given that PAF is one of their officers. (I could list them but this thread is already 37 pages long and there is enough dribble here already!!)
Just ignore him and he'll go away eventually.
The ADF is rife with poor decision makers bungling all sorts of projects. Its not surprising given that PAF is one of their officers. (I could list them but this thread is already 37 pages long and there is enough dribble here already!!)
Just ignore him and he'll go away eventually.
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Oh dear!...this is becoming very sad indeed!...
go elsewhere guys, you are destroying yourselves in real time as we speak!
Go private for goodness sake! Can't you take good advice?
go elsewhere guys, you are destroying yourselves in real time as we speak!
Go private for goodness sake! Can't you take good advice?
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Ahh the sign of someone who is a man of conviction. Fingers in ears and yelling "naa naa naa". That's the reason why you'll lose and deserve to lose.
If you want to play by the sword and start heading towards full strike action I hope you receive a sword.
Don't care for a dissenting opinion? Try a union website - this isn't one of them.
If you want to play by the sword and start heading towards full strike action I hope you receive a sword.
Don't care for a dissenting opinion? Try a union website - this isn't one of them.
Heh Heh! As predicted, they pulled the plug. 
Dicko's got 'em by the Brazilians. 
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Bolty said
works a treat!
To never be afflicted by P.A.F's comments again.
Click on "User CP" Top of the page L/H side.
On the page left had side is a list of links.
Bottom of the list is..
"Buddy / Ignore Lists"
Cut and paste P.A.F. name into the ignore list and you will never see his ignorant stirring rantings again.
Click on "User CP" Top of the page L/H side.
On the page left had side is a list of links.
Bottom of the list is..
"Buddy / Ignore Lists"
Cut and paste P.A.F. name into the ignore list and you will never see his ignorant stirring rantings again.
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Hey Short Circuit
NEXT...is what you will be hearing.......the Que at the UNEMPLOYMENT OFFICE.....great stuff this, cannot wait for your passive go slow action to really bite , then YOU WILL ALL BE HEARING NEXT
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Out of some 1,700 LAMEs, some two dozen of them are apparently determined to alienate the symphaty of the general public to what I believe, is a just cause. The ALAEA leadership must cringe when they read all this very badly written, jingoistic rhetoric. Workers unite, kill the capitalistic managers that dare make a profit with our sweat and blood. Power comes from the barrel of a gun, anybody disagreeing with us will have his head on a stick. Come on fellows, give it a rest. I do hope you get your 5% but the attitude you demonstrate on this forum will not help you.
Last edited by HotDog; 8th Jan 2008 at 20:54.