HyperMerged: Q Engineering LAME EBA VIII/Industrial Strategies

[indamiddle]

looks like qf 31 left 3 hours late tonight
u guys getting an early start?

[teresa green]

As one well out of the stoush, but one who proudly served in Engineering for some eight years in Docs all I can say is "GO BOYS" you are and always have been tops. And the stupidity of the beancounters don't see it. But the rest of us do!! Goodluck!

[speedbirdhouse]

I've never seen so many instances of loooooooooooong engineering delays over the last few weeks.

Cabin crew re-named Qantas, "Appologies Airline" years ago given our continual inability to get even the basic stuff right.

I was genuinely surprised the other day when I DIDN"T have to appologise for our late arrival as we landed on time

Can't wait to see what happens when the fun REALLY starts

[beachhead]

I believe Saturday's QF31 left 18 hours late on Sunday. First an engine change then a hydraulic leak at the gate. Oh well.

I must say I cant remember QF management coming to the table with industrial action looming, usually their line is no IA and we will talk.

[ellie1]

quote

"I think that people high up don't have any idea of what a LAME does and truly believe we can be replaced as easy as a stroke of a pen."

Sorry to gents, but I think they can, 42ZC is the regulation I think they can use.

[NMDhold]

Further Reading............

Transit Authorisations

http://www.casa.gov.au/airworth/awb/02/004.htm


CAR 42ZC(3)(d) permits a person to perform maintenance on Class A aircraft if they are authorised by CASA or an authorised person.


These authorisations include what is often described as a "Transit Authorisation" or some similar term.


Transit Authorisations permit an LAME to carry out specific maintenance on specific aircraft for which they do not hold a type/category rating.

Generally, the authorisation ("Transit Authorisation") should permit a Licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineer (LAME) working for an AMO to carry out defined tasks, for which the LAME has received appropriate training, with a view to permit a serviceable aircraft to be transited through any port within the Operator's domestic network.


Scope Of Permitted Maintenance Under CAR 42ZC(7)

Authorisation of maintenance personnel should be specified for the aircraft type/model (as operated by a specific Air Operator) for which the training has been completed, and be limited to;

• Daily/Turnaround/Transit or equivalent manufacturers' inspections, with no rectification of defects, and
• Cabin configuration change, where no tools are required, such as fitting of section dividers, stretchers, portable oxygen bottles and the like.

The maintenance personnel should not be authorised to carry out the following:

• Scheduled maintenance
• Checks to the aircraft's systems (other than checks such as brake wear, fluid pressure checks, etc. and checks that are associated with the servicing and replenishment functions being carried out)
• Rectification of defects (this includes replacing wheels and brakes, changing computer software, and clearance of defects resulting from electronic diagnostic checks).
• Maintenance required to comply with an Airworthiness Directive, or
• Any modification or repair to the aircraft.

One observation to note is that it is only for domestic operations,

Another is that it is for transiting serviceable aircraft with NO NEW DEFECTS only.......we should all know what this means by now......don't we

When the action starts, and there is a possibility of an stopwork........

Log your defects as soon as you find them and don't do the certification until the last minute


Some thoughts "going forward"

We need to hold the line,

attack where it has most effect,

deal with scabs as best we can and

MOVE AS ONE



To A Qantas Engineering without Harris and Cox.....

To Victory and 5 percent!!!!!

NMDhold

[MENDAERO]

Qantas, union tight-lipped on dispute meeting

Posted 2 hours 6 minutes ago



Representatives from Qantas and the union representing aircraft engineers have met in Sydney to discuss a dispute over an enterprise agreement.
The engineers are planning to start industrial action on Wednesday unless the disagreement is resolved.
Neither Qantas nor the union are commenting on the meeting's outcomes.



http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...section=justin

Yesterdays meeting was about the SYD Base Maintenance A330 crews, I believe they have come to an agreement on the proper LAME staffing levels, so the crews should not have to be disbanded on the 10th as the ALAEA directed.

The follow up EBA meeting should be held today, with a view to an agreement before tomorrows PIA start. An agreement looks promising, however now is not the time to let our guard down.

[magoo31]

Just had my strikebreaker offer.

Sheesh, talk about throwing some cash around.

Don't worry, I told them my morals would prevent me from accepting.

[Antisplash]

Some of my old mates from Heavy and redundantees also received love letters asking to return to fold and help during this time of crisis with a bucket of ruples on offer. Every one of them politely declined!!..Still united though apart!!

Please LAMEs when you meet to discuss stuff remember you still have support from us no longer with of the airline. Just don't walk out the gate, the ba$tard$ will lock it after you. Screw them from within.

[Dick.Hayes]

QAN Share price.
Beginning of November $6.05
Beginning of December $5.85
Beginning of January $5.28

I don’t understand, isn’t industrial action good for a share price.
OH Well, how low can we go??

[regitaekilthgiwt]

It looks like an impact is already been seen at Sydney International. Obviously some flights will normally leave slightly late due late passengers etc (within 15 minutes is considered on time), however the overall trend is there.

This is Monday the 7th of January's Qantas flights from Syd Intl:

QF163....5 mins late
QF91......31 mins late
QF167....6 mins late
QF45......6 mins late
QF136....26 mins late
QF135....1hr 25 mins late
QF63......37 mins late
QF43......22 mins late
QF191....1hr 16 mins late
QF127....39 mins late
QF107....10 mins late
QF19......1hr 12 mins late
QF11......16 mins late
QF73......49 mins late
QF41......21 mins late
QF5.......11 mins late
QF31......4hrs 48 mins late
QF1.......1hr 23 mins late
QF117....28 mins late
QF49......46 mins late
Qf21.......8 mins late

[WynSock]

From the website...

Sometimes due to circumstances outside our control, such as bad weather or industrial action, your flight may be disrupted or cancelled.

Outside our control

[Ngineer]

Thanks Magoo31 and all the guys who knocked back the offer. I spoke to an ex employee who was phoned 8 times and eventually knocked back 150k. He was told they had 8 people so far, and cannot find any more. Although you guy's have done the right thing by us, I can still image that knocking back this sort of offer would leave one feeling a bit unsettled. We have utmost adiration for you all, and you guys are usually the main topic of conversation at the smoko room table. Several of the LAME's on leave at the moment who have not had their leave cancelled by management are cancelling their leave to come back and help bring this airline to a grinding halt. Will be fun to be involved and looking forward to the long fight.

[The Black Panther]

Perhaps it would benefit all if you find show stoppers in the QEPM and put the references here as one contributor has already done (3-10-25). I will be trolling for the same and keeping an uncontrolled copy with me at all times.

[Short_Circuit]

Can I draw your attention to a few QF policy show slowers

QF Policy 3-40-021
6. Human Performance Limitations Policy

1. Limitations of human performance, in the context of planning safety related tasks, refers to the upper and lower limits, and variations, of certain aspects of human performance (Circadian rhythm/24 hours body cycle) which personnel should be aware of when planning work and shifts.
2. It is recommended that safety-critical tasks be scheduled during periods when those carrying out the tasks are likely to be most alert i.e. at the beginning of work periods.
3. Where for reasons of scheduling or unplanned defect rectification they are unable to apply the forgoing procedure, additional error defences will be employed when conducting any safety related task.
4. Consideration (Error Defences) would typically include:
   • A review of the time of day/night with regard to the Circadian rhythm/24 hours body cycle and its' likely effect on the personnel undertaking the task.
   • Adequacy of support staff (quality, stores, equipment and other team members etc.).
   • Ensuring the staff members concerned have received adequate off-work rest.
   • Additional breaks are scheduled, or more frequent breaks.
   • Additional error capturing steps are planned such as Duplicate Inspections, where one would not have ordinarily been completed.
   • The availability of additional staff to complete complex tasks.

AND

CERTIFICATION RESPONSIBILITIES 3-10-023

1. All certifying persons are responsible for the following general requirements:

Ensuring that any departure from the appropriate maintenance instructions and Procedures is covered by authorising documentation
(e.g. Concession, Engineering Authority etc.) prior to the maintenance operation continuing.

ie Wait for the document to arrive, no working from verbals whilst waiting for the document.

[Big M]

Short Circuit
Music to my ears dear fellow!
Can't wait until all ports are singing off the same song sheet.

No one will be going on strike.
No one will be locked out.
Every LAME will be on the job and doing it well.
The ineptitude and incompetence of management along with their stupid rules and procedures will be the tools via which we grind the network to a halt and get our point across.
The higher branches in the company are about to learn just who keeps the planes a-comin' and a-goin'.
Some low swinging branches such as Atwell-Harris, Styles, Fat Controller may just get snapped off!

[once a jolly swagman]

Music to my ears

People I have been reading these posts for a long time with no input (sorry).

Since reading the Human Performance Limitations Policy from the QF Policy Manual it is good to see that QF has written a policy that in the end will cause them the most pain with our charged pens in hand.

If you are pressured to bypass or overlook the policies them I am sure each State and Territory OH&S Department for each Government would more than happy to receive a phone call from you.

More than ever before it seems that everyone in QF are with us. It seems that the time has come for the people that keep the airline ticking over to be heard and rewarded the correct way instead of shrugged off by Management.

This is our time to be heard and I believe we have the best team with SP spearheading our cause.

Please lets all unite and use our brains to achieve what we are after. We can do more damage at work than not being there.

[sickofqf]

It's a simple motto.....

"The Policy Manual is YOUR friend"

I feel MH, BK, DC et al will grow to rue the day they let HR twerps over regulate the workplace.............

More power to the REAL workers and less to the "managers" and the people really running this debacle of a company.....the HR morts... !!

[amos2]

Too much hubris, guys!

Don't get ahead of yourselves.

[sickofqf]

"too much hubris"


blah, blah, why don't you crawl back under your Jet rock Amos.....no one is listening to your nonsense !