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Old 4th Jan 2008, 09:04
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Thanx for support numbskull.
Wed. higher duties bans start and then wed week (14th) o/t bans. Not a strike, and tell all this. Stop work will be purely as a reaction if qf get heavy handed. We are in no hurry, but would like a resolution. 22 eba meetings in 13 months is probably close to as many as is needed for a resolution.
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Old 4th Jan 2008, 09:19
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Tse! Tse!

Spaz Modic. OK, I'll bite. Find another thread and quickly. The likes of you we don't need. Were you in any way involved in the 80's Pilots strike?

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REUTERS: Australia's Qantas yet to reach pay deal with unions

ABC NEWS: Qantas engineers plan 'low level' work bans
From Paul Cousins

"At this time stop-work meetings are only going to take place if we believe one of our members is unlawfully stood down due to his stance on, say, refusing to work overtime,"
From David Cox

"We've been advised that from next Wednesday they will institute what I'd describe as a low-level overtime ban,"
I don't believe at this stage higher duties or secondment bans will be used, however O/T bans will start on the 9th.
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Old 4th Jan 2008, 09:38
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Action

Strange I would have thought do all three, no secondments, no overtime and no higher duties...all at once I would have thought would be appropriate...
Still something is better than nothing....hmmm lots of A check coming up
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Amos
So, is what I'm saying valid...
well, I think it is, and you know why?...

'cause back in 89' when Ansett and Australian airlines brought in foreign registered aircraft crewed by foreign pilots to break the domestic pilots dispute, guess who serviced and signed off on the part twos'...

You guys!! And that shows your character...which aint that crash hot!
1) It's called secondary boycotts, which are illegal and not worth the personal legal action that WILL be taken against you.

2) It was a pilot dispute, at the end of the day you all got what you wanted and the ones who scabbed were put on a list.

3) We don't expect any other employee group to sympathise with us in a manner which is a secondary boycott. This industrial action is all legal and above board.

4) 18 years ago was a long time, most of the engineers from those days don't exist anymore. The engineers left at Qantas are the ones who are under mortgage stress and/or have seen their real wage drop consistently over the last 10 years.

5) Get over it mate, it was nearly 20 years ago. Move on. Build a bridge. You are a sad case.
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Old 4th Jan 2008, 09:45
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Way off the mark!

6. The pilots, cabin crew, traffic officers, dunny cleaners...you name it, will all be against you.
amos2, you are way out of touch on this one (and most of the others in your list). Legally we can't do much, but I can assure the ginger beers that from my first hand observations there is overwhelming support and goodwill from my fellow Pilots and also the Cabin Crew.

I predict that Tech and Cabin crew might become fairly picky about what constitutes a defect over the next few weeks????
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amos, lets look at the facts
1. it was australian airlines and ansett(not qantas in 89)
2.you resigned onmass due to being **** scared of losing super and entitlements
3.once you resign asta lavista
4.scabs cost the government a fortune and where are they now?
5.the likes of yourself probably didnt support your brothers in arms
6.we dont care if bottom feeders like you support us or not
7.when we win i am sure you will stick your hand out at the next eba
8.build a bridge
9. i am so tired of baits like yourself that the best form of attack after this post is just to ignore you.
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Old 4th Jan 2008, 10:05
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Tech and cabin crew will send you down the drain so fast you wont even see it coming!...

they will "embrace" the "good guys" who are "saving the company"!!

as you have done before!!


I notice no one has yet challenged me on the fact that you "embraced the good guys" all those years ago!

Why is that?

'cause you did, that's why!

And you know it!
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Old 4th Jan 2008, 10:11
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you idiot .without a plane to fly or crew how you gonna send anyone down the tubes .unless you will be playing hangar pilot,denile is not a river in egypt.
keep talking trash amos,just dont ever be in a bar with a gingerbeer
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Amos, I see by your profile that you are a Jetstar legend pilot.

We all know what pathetic conditions you are prepared to accept.

Other aviation professionals have a higher value of their services. No need to ridicule those who are prepared to stand up for themselves just because you aren't!!
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Whoa


TROLL ALERT !!!!!
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Old 4th Jan 2008, 10:29
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The stooges just keep on coming!

The dick#head in BHM trying to divide the LAME's.... is he the same one that inspected a cargo hold on DQ-FJC and found nil corrosion..... only for it to be grounded months later in NZ due to corrosion in the hold? Another LAME who inspected the other cargo hold found/rectified corrosion and this was not a prob when the AC was grounded in NZ?

Seems like he covers his ar$e by going under desks.
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Just to correct an earlier post.

No overtime on your day off from 0001 hr on Wed 9th January.

Why only ban O/T on days off? So they can't use an untested law to grab 4 hours pay off you for refusing.

Higher duties bans, secondment bans and stop work meetings up our sleeve for a rainy day.

We feel that a combination of O/T restrictions and the loss of good will that we are already seeing will be enough to slowly strangle the airline, with or without scabs. Make the most of it guys and start compiling that scab list. They will be remembered.
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Old 4th Jan 2008, 10:37
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amos 2

Gentlemen, Ladies.
Ignore Amos2, there is much bigger game to catch. If we collectively ignore the agitator he will go away.
It's been said before, stay cool! We all know what we need to do, don't let individuals like Amos2 distract us from the real agenda.
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Old 4th Jan 2008, 10:56
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Grrr Richard Head

Hey Spaz Modic,
there is a drug and alcohol policy at QF. You would obviously fail any of those tests....


The cockpit is ROCKIN and ROLLIN'!
AHAAA HAAA HAAA
It appears that already A/C are rocking and rolling off bays by tugs, busted,
not to return to service for hours / days already.

Senator Evans told The Australian yesterday he would block any attempts to use foreign labour to thwart domestic strike action.
"The Government will not allow the 457 visa scheme to be used as a device to overcome an industrial dispute,'' he said in a statement.
"The 457 visa class is designed to meet temporary skills shortages where Australian-based labour cannot be sourced.''

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Old 4th Jan 2008, 11:33
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Just to correct an earlier post.

No overtime on your day off from 0001 hr on Wed 9th January.
thanks for the update what about the secondments are they still coming back?
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The union would be proud of you Numbskull!...

if you had the backing of the Jetstar pilots before your ill advised post, you certainly don't have it now!

But, hey...why am I not surprised!
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Amos 2 & Spaz Modic

You two drongos seem to have the same intellagence,you should start another thread and talk st to each other.Your comments are not wanted here.Let it be known the majority of pilots are backing us.
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Old 4th Jan 2008, 12:56
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Victory Is Ours

Let it be known for all the MANAGERS out there, victory is ours. If we stick together, work togethor and be brothers in arms we will win this battle. We cannot be defeated, lets use our skills, knowleadge and experience of aircraft to put these QF destroyers in there place. Let us remember that this is not only for us but for the future of all who will become LAMES. This is the turning point for our industry, lets set our goals and work collectively to achieve them no matter who may try to test our might, lets protect our great industry from these vulgar, peasent scum managers.
We have voted and this is to the death.
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hi guys,
good luck from a flight attendant with your tactics.
how can f/a's help in a legal and safe way?
any ideas gratefully considered, such as use of ccl etc.
a reply on this thread and perhaps faaa eba 8 thread please
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