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G'day Trevor,
Mate, I agree with your sentiments exactly. It is SOOOOOOOO good to be working at a real airline now, not a two bit GA outfit.
Like you say, pilots will come and and NJS will milk it for all they can.
"John you are Delusional mate, Delusional!" (said with hands on head)
Love that quote from a mutual buddy.
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Mate, I agree with your sentiments exactly. It is SOOOOOOOO good to be working at a real airline now, not a two bit GA outfit.
Like you say, pilots will come and and NJS will milk it for all they can.
"John you are Delusional mate, Delusional!" (said with hands on head)
Love that quote from a mutual buddy.
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NJS is GA because they never had any airline people running the show. Army, Navy and Airforce - what chance to establish anything resembling an airline.
Having said that - they are probably the best GA outfit in Oz - but that is all you're going to get - a job with the best GA outfit around.
Yep, Skywest & Alliance - compared to NJS - you are both in the Airline category.
Having said that - they are probably the best GA outfit in Oz - but that is all you're going to get - a job with the best GA outfit around.
Yep, Skywest & Alliance - compared to NJS - you are both in the Airline category.
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Bluddy Favouritism 
I make a post like any of the above and its " youre so bitter and twisted " and " get over it " etc
Well said boys
, especially you Bae146.
Just curious about Uuuuuurps rebly to boocs............ is not forking out 15k for training ( regardless of wether or not you MIGHT get it back ) paying for an endorsement ???
Since only 3 guys did'nt sign AWA and 2 of those resigned and the other one did'nt live in DN, what gives
I make a post like any of the above and its " youre so bitter and twisted " and " get over it " etc
Well said boys
, especially you Bae146.Just curious about Uuuuuurps rebly to boocs............ is not forking out 15k for training ( regardless of wether or not you MIGHT get it back ) paying for an endorsement ???
Since only 3 guys did'nt sign AWA and 2 of those resigned and the other one did'nt live in DN, what gives
Trev would just like to add - No offence intended at some of the best dudes flying in OZ right now with NJS. Capt Bloggs, Claret, Dog and all the other switched on dudes there. A truly great bunch.
The most often quoted saying in NJS - best job I ever had, worst company I ever worked for.
Mustard - keep the anonymity mate, shouldn't mention delusional John's name on the forum, keep it at "Boots" mate. And also Mustard - just remember, what you are flying now, the mighty hairdryer would need 24 engines to have the same thrust as you have now.
I also think that for NJS maybe it is not so much about screwing people now as a struggle for survival as Alliance, Syairworld et al gain momentum.
The most often quoted saying in NJS - best job I ever had, worst company I ever worked for.
Mustard - keep the anonymity mate, shouldn't mention delusional John's name on the forum, keep it at "Boots" mate. And also Mustard - just remember, what you are flying now, the mighty hairdryer would need 24 engines to have the same thrust as you have now.
I also think that for NJS maybe it is not so much about screwing people now as a struggle for survival as Alliance, Syairworld et al gain momentum.
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Trevor,
Agreed 100%
Happiest day of my life leaving that circus.
Lured in with huge promises of rescue from GA type pay and conditions only to witness daily displays that would make even the slimiest GA boss squirm!
The only difference between a GA shafting and a NJ shafting was I got to wear a hat to the show!
Agreed 100% as well!
I certainly hold any long term employee of that circus in the highest regard. A true strong character needed to keep focused.
Sorry to vent people but that was good for me!
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Agreed 100%
Happiest day of my life leaving that circus.
Lured in with huge promises of rescue from GA type pay and conditions only to witness daily displays that would make even the slimiest GA boss squirm!
The only difference between a GA shafting and a NJ shafting was I got to wear a hat to the show!
The most often quoted saying in NJS - best job I ever had, worst company I ever worked for.
I certainly hold any long term employee of that circus in the highest regard. A true strong character needed to keep focused.
Sorry to vent people but that was good for me!
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Well a former colleague popped his head in the other day. He obviously wanted to see a state of the art flight deck. He was reborn some years ago and when I asked him how it was, his reply in essence was, "same sh!t, different paddock". Other born again friends have suggested that the grass didn't stay green for too long.
Now I'm not saying there's no room for improvement where I am. But, it is my perception that no pilot body is all that happy these days, even QFers have been heard to grumble about their lot.
One of the reasons we're all farked, is that so many take delight in denigrating so many others. I've got the job I've got. It pays the bills and allows me to live where I want to live. Why do I have to listen to or read tosh from people who neither know or care about my circumstances, on how I should carry out my work life?????
Not every one can work for the best, and the best went out of business in '93 SPRA!
Trevor the lover, you weren't prone to sending well lubricated late night SMS were you?
He was reborn some years ago and when I asked him how it was, his reply in essence was, "same sh!t, different paddock". Other born again friends have suggested that the grass didn't stay green for too long.Now I'm not saying there's no room for improvement where I am. But, it is my perception that no pilot body is all that happy these days, even QFers have been heard to grumble about their lot.
One of the reasons we're all farked, is that so many take delight in denigrating so many others. I've got the job I've got. It pays the bills and allows me to live where I want to live. Why do I have to listen to or read tosh from people who neither know or care about my circumstances, on how I should carry out my work life?????
Not every one can work for the best, and the best went out of business in '93 SPRA!
Trevor the lover, you weren't prone to sending well lubricated late night SMS were you?
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I agree, best job I ever had too. The company wasn't to bad for much of it but the empire builders and insoluble personalities down south eroded much of that. Sad really because I used to pop out of bed at 0430, arrive at the hangar at 0515 depart at 0630 arrive CNS at 1030. Sign on was not until the NEXT evening at 1730. Christ it was almost a gulit trip to be paid $105,000 (in those days) to do 3.3 hours block time and then have a spa in my room before going for a run or swim then do lunch and have a rest before dinner and a piss up of biblical proportions accompanied by the odd nightclub/pub eviction, sleep it off, have breakfast, chat with a flight attendant or two by the pool, go for another swim or go shopping, have a nap and then go 3.3 hours back home again into days off. Yep it was a great job, best one in the airline industry in my opinion. The company was another matter altogether.
Claret,
You sound like a company man to me. Hope you don't represent your pilots to management. Judging by rumoured NJS management behaviour of late your tongue might catch something...............
You sound like a company man to me. Hope you don't represent your pilots to management. Judging by rumoured NJS management behaviour of late your tongue might catch something...............
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Illusion, what would you like me to do? Run around at F160 and up the fuel burn? Put so much on that we have to off-load pax? Sit here and bag the **** out of them along with the majority? 
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Clarrie, you wanna listen to people bagging your company, try working for Pornstar 
I'm actually thinking of suggesting a name change to the powers that be at PPRUNE, maybe " Jetstar haters website ", still, they reckon jealousy is a curse 
Your former colleague more than likely left before things really started turning to ( and could well be a long term VB effo ? ) , I agree that every outfit including QF have there problems, its just that IMHO NJS have more than their fare share, and I have worked for more than one jet operator.
PS. Believe me, its nice to have realtive job security....................and staff travel
Urrp, apology accepted
I'm actually thinking of suggesting a name change to the powers that be at PPRUNE, maybe " Jetstar haters website ", still, they reckon jealousy is a curse Your former colleague more than likely left before things really started turning to
( and could well be a long term VB effo ? ) , I agree that every outfit including QF have there problems, its just that IMHO NJS have more than their fare share, and I have worked for more than one jet operator.PS. Believe me, its nice to have realtive job security....................and staff travel
Urrp, apology accepted
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Is that what they teach you on day one at Pornstar groundschool linguist???
" Hi everone, welcome to Pornstar, known for it's great morale, fantastic flying, great in-flight service and high morals when it comes to pilot representation...oh above all else, those that don't work here are really jealous of your position"............ Bwaaa haaa haaa ROFLMAO!!!!
I can assure you linguist..those of us that have jet jobs elsewhere are certainly not jealous of you....however, you keep that dream alive now you hear.....
" Hi everone, welcome to Pornstar, known for it's great morale, fantastic flying, great in-flight service and high morals when it comes to pilot representation...oh above all else, those that don't work here are really jealous of your position"............ Bwaaa haaa haaa ROFLMAO!!!!
I can assure you linguist..those of us that have jet jobs elsewhere are certainly not jealous of you....however, you keep that dream alive now you hear.....
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Pete, crawl back under the rock in whatever O/S hole you live in and let us people living and working in the greatest country in the world ( a place your sorry bitter twisted ar5e will probably never work again ) get on with it.
I'll just bet you are one of those types the airlines had the dispute for in the first place, so they could weed out all the
hole you live in and let us people living and working in the greatest country in the world ( a place your sorry bitter twisted ar5e will probably never work again ) get on with it. I'll just bet you are one of those types the airlines had the dispute for in the first place, so they could weed out all the
I have to agree pretty much with Clarie. Who is that happy with their lot that they don't complain?
Cunning, most of what you say I agree with 100%, what I get sick of is hearing it over and over again, since you used to kick cows in fact.
We know NJS management are F%&^*g useless, we also know Jetstar are not much better, if at all.
The biggest difference being Jetstar have QF's resources to use, NJS have next to none.
There is a good chance the pilot Clarrie speaks of trained you.
He is not a junior F/O with Virgin, quite the opposite and I suspect you would hold him in very high regard as most if not all NJS's do.
He was lucky enough to have left before the Admiral and his mob took over, how ever their (the admiral etc) life span in management is finite like every one elses, infact the admirals may be drawing to a close as we speak and not just his management position!
Hope the rest follow soon after.
Being a bit deceptive with this comment aren't we?
A metro Captain for a night freight operator I believe?
Cunning, most of what you say I agree with 100%, what I get sick of is hearing it over and over again, since you used to kick cows in fact.
We know NJS management are F%&^*g useless, we also know Jetstar are not much better, if at all.
The biggest difference being Jetstar have QF's resources to use, NJS have next to none.
There is a good chance the pilot Clarrie speaks of trained you.
He is not a junior F/O with Virgin, quite the opposite and I suspect you would hold him in very high regard as most if not all NJS's do.
He was lucky enough to have left before the Admiral and his mob took over, how ever their (the admiral etc) life span in management is finite like every one elses, infact the admirals may be drawing to a close as we speak and not just his management position!
Hope the rest follow soon after.
Being a bit deceptive with this comment aren't we?
I have worked for more than one jet operator.
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Hey linguist.....bwaaa haaaa haaaa haaaaa haaaa haaa!!!!...truth hurt buddy?...Bwaaaa haaaa haaaa....heee heee heee!!!
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