Pilot Suspensions / Mt Cook Airlines
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Outa curiosity, where does Mt Cook go for SIM's and on who do you travel ??
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PS; I would suggest there is little to zero chance of the Air NSN boys/gals operating ATR 72/42's (or any other Mt Cook aircraft) so dont get too upset about a clear " wind-up"
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PS; I would suggest there is little to zero chance of the Air NSN boys/gals operating ATR 72/42's (or any other Mt Cook aircraft) so dont get too upset about a clear " wind-up"
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Smart buggers, point I'm tring to make is that is a standard contract clause for all airlines! Its not greediness on behalf of the pilots but the complete opposite. Any management team with thier fingers on the pulse would see the benefits of it.
"PILOTS, we will travel in our own time to the destinations to save the company the hassle of 2-3 extra days travel because of duty time"
"COMPANY, hell no your trying to rip us off!!!!!!!!!"
Silly way of making the point but come on
I will attempt to be more serious in future
"PILOTS, we will travel in our own time to the destinations to save the company the hassle of 2-3 extra days travel because of duty time"
"COMPANY, hell no your trying to rip us off!!!!!!!!!"
Silly way of making the point but come on
I will attempt to be more serious in future
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Any more news re these suspensions?
Real "Family Culture" attitude being shown from the management. The stream of crap being spouted is beyond a joke. At least the company's tactics have brought and kept the troops all together. If you're keen on Cook, get the CV in, a lot of good people are assessing their options and there might be some folks moving on sooner than they planned to. 
Taking it's toll on the non-union guys too having to pick up so much slack. All this nonsense for pilots, cabin crew, ops, check-in and traffic staff and passengers is ridiculous. At least Vincent is loving it I guess!Good on you Cloud and others, the guys (and gals!) appreciate the support from you all.
As for Stoidiouy, I thinking dropping the 's' is more befitting of you.P.S. The meeting this week referred to earlier went, well you can probably guess..........
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That was a rumour Cloud. No more meetings yet. Company and ALPA have made new/(probably old reworded) submissions to mediator and he'll let 'em know what he thinks of them next week. PO has gone on leave now anyway-perhaps on a P&O cruise. That guy is just great. Anyone else want him?
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Few tumbleweeds blowing past in the negotiating office.
The Mount Cook management have gone on vacation (a lot like the Air New Zealand management common sense), Hasn't made a lick of difference to the rate of progress. Still Zero, Good one guys
Just give me more of the pineapple this time thanks........
The Mount Cook management have gone on vacation (a lot like the Air New Zealand management common sense), Hasn't made a lick of difference to the rate of progress. Still Zero, Good one guys
Just give me more of the pineapple this time thanks........
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Ahh, the gentle rustle of management folk. AirNZ/Mt Cook have taken issue to the employment watchdog citing the pilots for passenger disrupts etc, almost as if to say they haven't been bargining in good faith!!! Hahahahahahahaha!!!! Ahhhh they never fail to impress. Carefully placed CEO talk of parking up an aeroplane(s?) and laying off pilots and flight attendents adds to the flavour. Good one Pete! Leading the company to prosperous times!!!!
And to the disrupted passengers,
Dear Sir/Madam,
We would like to apologise for your disrupted travel plans. The good will of our pilots by working on their days off/annual leave covers sickness and unforseen disruptions. At the moment we are penny pinching and trying to shaft them, both in less than CPI wage increases from 9 months ago when their contract ran out and half decent travel to their simulator details in Thailand. All other AirNZ pilots groups have this 'right' but 22 hours travelling followed by a test that requires a pass to keep your job is not reason enough. Oh yeah, we're the ones who send them to a 2nd-3rd world city with recent bombings but they're so well treated.....honest. Anyway, these evil, overpayed, underworked pilots aren't working on their days off now so your flight had to be cancelled. Don't worry though because as passengers you are as valuable to us as our staff so we will treat you accordingly. If your flight hasn't been cancelled please find your Vincent aircraft at Gate 10, ready to board approximately 3 hours after your booked flight. Have a great week!
Sincerely
The powers that be.
Hahahahahahahaha!!!! Ahhhh they never fail to impress. Carefully placed CEO talk of parking up an aeroplane(s?) and laying off pilots and flight attendents adds to the flavour. Good one Pete! Leading the company to prosperous times!!!!And to the disrupted passengers,
Dear Sir/Madam,
We would like to apologise for your disrupted travel plans. The good will of our pilots by working on their days off/annual leave covers sickness and unforseen disruptions. At the moment we are penny pinching and trying to shaft them, both in less than CPI wage increases from 9 months ago when their contract ran out and half decent travel to their simulator details in Thailand. All other AirNZ pilots groups have this 'right' but 22 hours travelling followed by a test that requires a pass to keep your job is not reason enough. Oh yeah, we're the ones who send them to a 2nd-3rd world city with recent bombings but they're so well treated.....honest. Anyway, these evil, overpayed, underworked pilots aren't working on their days off now so your flight had to be cancelled. Don't worry though because as passengers you are as valuable to us as our staff so we will treat you accordingly. If your flight hasn't been cancelled please find your Vincent aircraft at Gate 10, ready to board approximately 3 hours after your booked flight. Have a great week!
Sincerely
The powers that be.
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[good faith!!! Hahahahahahahaha!!!! Ahhhh they never fail to impress. Good one Pete! Leading the company to prosperous times!!!!
And to the disrupted passengers,
Airslasher you have hit the nail on the head, however the actual letter that 'Asymmetric Pete' is giving out to the customers goes something like this and is just as funny.
Dear Customer
Your flight today has been affected because of industrial action by Mount Cook Airline pilots. in my capacity as General Manager of Mount Cook Airline, I wish to express my sincere apologies for the resulting disruption to your schedule.
Whilst both Mount Cook Airline and Air New Zealand have endeavoured to minimise the impact of this industrial action, regrettably on this occasion the cancellation of your flight has been unavoidable.
I trust that any alternative travel arrangements we have made for you are not too unfavourable. Should you require further assistance please approach one of our staff or call Air New Zealand reservations toll free on 0800 737 000.
Once again, please accept my sincere apologies for the inconvenience this cancellation has caused.
Yours sincerely,
GM
MT Cook Airline
This airline is too much!!! Couldn't obviously give a toss about its staff or its customers.
Hahahahahahahaha!!!! Ahhhh they never fail to impress. Good one Pete! Leading the company to prosperous times!!!!And to the disrupted passengers,
Airslasher you have hit the nail on the head, however the actual letter that 'Asymmetric Pete' is giving out to the customers goes something like this and is just as funny.
Dear Customer
Your flight today has been affected because of industrial action by Mount Cook Airline pilots. in my capacity as General Manager of Mount Cook Airline, I wish to express my sincere apologies for the resulting disruption to your schedule.
Whilst both Mount Cook Airline and Air New Zealand have endeavoured to minimise the impact of this industrial action, regrettably on this occasion the cancellation of your flight has been unavoidable.
I trust that any alternative travel arrangements we have made for you are not too unfavourable. Should you require further assistance please approach one of our staff or call Air New Zealand reservations toll free on 0800 737 000.
Once again, please accept my sincere apologies for the inconvenience this cancellation has caused.
Yours sincerely,
GM
MT Cook Airline
This airline is too much!!! Couldn't obviously give a toss about its staff or its customers.
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I wonder if the reluctance to agree to firm business class has anything to do with the recently announced withdrawal of Air NZ on the Singapore route? Assuming this has been in the pipelines for some time.
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The way AirNZ treats its staff from year to year I doubt that the ones on the yes letters really give a $%#^^%.....Still Takingitfromfyfe
Unfortunately they may need to be reinterviewed by the time the next flow of jobs comes along. (News of the park ups) Year 200*
.. Rather be sitting half way up any seniority list than on the bottom of the AirNZ one.
Glad to see some replies to this thread, pilots were showing as much interest in it as the GM shows in good business sense, the can do attitude, family culture, efficiency focus, relationship with AirNZ
(Do you think Pete has bigger plans?? butt kisser).
It affects us ALL in some way... direct or indirect.
and yes, still t.i.f.f.
MMMM Rob give it to me longhaul style
Unfortunately they may need to be reinterviewed by the time the next flow of jobs comes along. (News of the park ups) Year 200*
.. Rather be sitting half way up any seniority list than on the bottom of the AirNZ one.Glad to see some replies to this thread, pilots were showing as much interest in it as the GM shows in good business sense, the can do attitude, family culture, efficiency focus, relationship with AirNZ
(Do you think Pete has bigger plans?? butt kisser). It affects us ALL in some way... direct or indirect.
and yes, still t.i.f.f.
MMMM Rob give it to me longhaul style
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Eureka, yeah, got a copy of that letter myself. Another letter at Dunedin airport showing the correspondance between a staff member (their concerns with the current situation) there and Big Rob is as funny as OEI (One Engine Inoperative for those uninitiated) Pete's effort.
Anyway, mediation back on for the coming Monday and possible Employment Relations Authority for Wednesday.
I can't even see how this could be (the only apparent reason) 'getting one over the staff." They're already earning less than the last 3 years with inflation, and that would still be the case with the amount proposed for agreement. Taking It From Fyfe is right, I used to like pineapple!
Cloud. To be frank it doesn't matter a sh*t where AirNZ's routes are. You don't stick staff on longhaul work travel (in their own bloody time!) in coach with min. rest and expect them to perform in Sim checks. Last I recall we lived in NZ in 2006, not Victorian England. If they hadn't tried to shaft Thai Airways at the start of the year they probably would have a half decent arrangement with them now anyway. Put the lads on Emirates, Thai, Singapore, Qantas, whoever and via wherever. It's not our problem if a bean counter in Auckland wants to pull out of Singapore and fly more to half arse destinations in China!
Between passengers and staff dealing with the management balls up I wonder how many more apologies Pete's got left in him. Are there enough trees for all the paper required to write these letters? The pilots who got suspended and told to find their own ways home have had apologies too. Would that be an admission of guilt/wrong doing by the company......? Perhaps some back pay compensation is due to them...........
Anyway, mediation back on for the coming Monday and possible Employment Relations Authority for Wednesday.
I can't even see how this could be (the only apparent reason) 'getting one over the staff." They're already earning less than the last 3 years with inflation, and that would still be the case with the amount proposed for agreement. Taking It From Fyfe is right, I used to like pineapple!
Cloud. To be frank it doesn't matter a sh*t where AirNZ's routes are. You don't stick staff on longhaul work travel (in their own bloody time!) in coach with min. rest and expect them to perform in Sim checks. Last I recall we lived in NZ in 2006, not Victorian England. If they hadn't tried to shaft Thai Airways at the start of the year they probably would have a half decent arrangement with them now anyway. Put the lads on Emirates, Thai, Singapore, Qantas, whoever and via wherever. It's not our problem if a bean counter in Auckland wants to pull out of Singapore and fly more to half arse destinations in China!
Between passengers and staff dealing with the management balls up I wonder how many more apologies Pete's got left in him. Are there enough trees for all the paper required to write these letters? The pilots who got suspended and told to find their own ways home have had apologies too. Would that be an admission of guilt/wrong doing by the company......? Perhaps some back pay compensation is due to them...........