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NATS interview process

Old 6th Feb 2017, 16:15
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baking for the OJTIs helps though, or so I've heard
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Old 6th Feb 2017, 17:24
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or do what the course me and Kimmikins was on and just bake every opportunity, exams, resits, summatives, birthdays, it's a tuesday, I'm sure it didn't hurt our standing with the instructors anyway!


Joking aside I will second what Kimmikins said, there is no easy way in this job, well worth the hard work though!
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Old 6th Feb 2017, 18:47
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Originally Posted by sambatc View Post
baking for the OJTIs helps though, or so I've heard
Just enhances the overall experience
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Old 6th Feb 2017, 18:51
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Originally Posted by Crazy Voyager View Post
or do what the course me and Kimmikins was on and just bake every opportunity, exams, resits, summatives, birthdays, it's a tuesday, I'm sure it didn't hurt our standing with the instructors anyway
Don't forget a run gone awry, somebody had mentioned cake or the ever popular "just because"!
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Old 7th Feb 2017, 10:54
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So I failed the second round of online tests. Have been out of education for a while now and haven't really used that part of my brain for a long time so was pretty pleased to pass the first round and was then hoping to have a longer time to sharpen up for the second stage but received an email stating it had to be completed by five days.

Failed the second round of online tests. By how much, I don't know, but would be interesting to know if I was close or not.

Sent an email to NATS asking them to clarify if/when I could re-apply as I've heard stories of current ATC's failing and then trying again a year, two years later and passing.

The answer was below:We are afraid that the role is a one time application only and therefore you will not be able to take the test again or reapply.

Shame if that is the case as I was hoping to retake in the future.
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Old 7th Feb 2017, 13:14
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Stage 2 tips

Hey

I've just booked today for my stage 2 assessment for Friday 10th February and wondered other than studying the information sent if there was any tips?

Thanks :-)
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Old 7th Feb 2017, 13:23
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"So I'm heading to my stage 2 assessment on the 23rd of Feb. I'm super excited but also terrified!

I've passed the aptitude tests for the RAF SNCO ATC position last April but this FEAST and DART thing seems really easy to mess up going by the amount of people who seem to fail stage 2!

Any advice on the format of the assessments? I downloaded the FEAST Test app and it seems pretty good in that it covers the general idea of what my RAF tests were but obviously I'm accepting that it won't be identical to what I'll be doing with NATS.

Any advice on the tests and how they're structured would be much appreciated!!"

*tumbleweed*
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Old 7th Feb 2017, 14:25
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"So I'm heading to my stage 2 assessment on the 23rd of Feb. I'm super excited but also terrified!

I've passed the aptitude tests for the RAF SNCO ATC position last April but this FEAST and DART thing seems really easy to mess up going by the amount of people who seem to fail stage 2!

Any advice on the format of the assessments? I downloaded the FEAST Test app and it seems pretty good in that it covers the general idea of what my RAF tests were but obviously I'm accepting that it won't be identical to what I'll be doing with NATS.

Any advice on the tests and how they're structured would be much appreciated!!"

*tumbleweed*
There's been enough posts in this thread over the past year or so detailing what goes on in the tests. Rather than wanting a load of hand holding might I suggest you try looking back though some of the posts from the last 18 months or so - it'll only be a couple of hours of reading
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Old 7th Feb 2017, 15:27
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Therein lies the problem - they've changed the tests since a lot of people last sat them. I'm more interested to know info about the multipart element but so far I can't find much info about it
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Old 7th Feb 2017, 15:28
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And also the fact that the failure rate is so high amongst candidates tells me I'd really like to prepare as thoroughly as possible so as not to join those statistics
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Old 7th Feb 2017, 15:33
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"Sent an email to NATS asking them to clarify if/when I could re-apply as I've heard stories of current ATC's failing and then trying again a year, two years later and passing.

The answer was below:We are afraid that the role is a one time application only and therefore you will not be able to take the test again or reapply.

Shame if that is the case as I was hoping to retake in the future."

Geo90 my friend in ATC was shocked when I told him this too as it used to be a 24 month wait then you could reapply. He says they change the goalposts a lot but he was going to check up and make sure this wasn't a mix up

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Old 7th Feb 2017, 19:55
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It might depend on what stage you fail at?

As for stage 2, exam 1 (written) and exam 2 (FEAST) are straight forward: read the information booklet for the former, and not much you can do to prep for the latter.

I got to the end and failed exam 3 (DART), and I can give one piece of advice for this one: don't just look at what's going on screen at present; plan ahead.
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Old 7th Feb 2017, 21:16
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Originally Posted by U04elw2 View Post
"So I'm heading to my stage 2 assessment on the 23rd of Feb. I'm super excited but also terrified!

I've passed the aptitude tests for the RAF SNCO ATC position last April but this FEAST and DART thing seems really easy to mess up going by the amount of people who seem to fail stage 2!

Any advice on the format of the assessments? I downloaded the FEAST Test app and it seems pretty good in that it covers the general idea of what my RAF tests were but obviously I'm accepting that it won't be identical to what I'll be doing with NATS.

Any advice on the tests and how they're structured would be much appreciated!!"

*tumbleweed*
U04elw2- could you send me a message on this forum please, I've got a few questions about the SNCO ATC with the RAF.

Cheers.
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Old 8th Feb 2017, 04:22
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Hi,

I am thinking of applying soon but I have a few questions to anyone who's gone through the process before. Did you get any say or influence over your assigned base during training? And if not, in reality how long into the process would it be before you could transfer and at which stage?
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Old 8th Feb 2017, 06:50
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Originally Posted by RadHead View Post
U04elw2- could you send me a message on this forum please, I've got a few questions about the SNCO ATC with the RAF.

Cheers.
Done just let me know what info you need and I'll see if I know the answer!
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Old 8th Feb 2017, 07:05
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Thanks flaming squirrel, I'm assuming from what I've read that DART is like a combination of the game on the website and the RAF assessment I did with planes having checkpoints to fly through, obstacles to avoid etc. I remember wanting to cry when I did it 😂 I guess as long as you remember the way they prioritise what you need to do it's less difficult but still horrible haha
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Old 8th Feb 2017, 12:58
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I am thinking of applying soon but I have a few questions to anyone who's gone through the process before. Did you get any say or influence over your assigned base during training? And if not, in reality how long into the process would it be before you could transfer and at which stage?
TwnE...
It's a while since I went through but the general theme is that your options and choices will be limited. Firstly, if you're sent down the Area route, then you will only have 2 venues in the UK you can work at.

If it's an airport you're going to, there may be some flexibility if there are a few of you destined for airports at the same time and there is enough slack in the system for people to work out preferences. As an example, it could be that 5 people come off an aerodrome course with 4 destined for EGCC and 1 for EGGW. You might be able to put forward your request but don't expect it to be accommodated. As everyone states, the job is a mobile grade so you can be sent wherever.

With regards to moving unit once valid, the reality again is it isn't entirely straight forward. It worked for me after about 5 years at my first unit, but it depends again on whether where you want to go has vacancies. You can certainly put your name down or apply for transfer, internal vacancies, etc. but once again there are no guarantees. As airport contracts fall away from NATS, then it gets a little tougher to move internally. Of course, other airports will still exist so there's always the chance to move externally if it suits your personal/ family needs.

Regards.
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Old 14th Feb 2017, 21:08
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All quiet on here...

Got my Stage 2 on Monday, just rounding off my revision, trying to learn some aircrafts now!

From what I have read cant really prep for the FEAST and DART so fingers crossed from here!
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Old 15th Feb 2017, 18:05
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Stage2

Originally Posted by bigdudeatco View Post
All quiet on here...

Got my Stage 2 on Monday, just rounding off my revision, trying to learn some aircrafts now!

From what I have read cant really prep for the FEAST and DART so fingers crossed from here!
Mine is on Thursday 23rd! Let me know how you get on good luck!
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Old 16th Feb 2017, 12:03
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Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel View Post
It might depend on what stage you fail at?

As for stage 2, exam 1 (written) and exam 2 (FEAST) are straight forward: read the information booklet for the former, and not much you can do to prep for the latter.

I got to the end and failed exam 3 (DART), and I can give one piece of advice for this one: don't just look at what's going on screen at present; plan ahead.

Flamin_Squirrel, how fast are the planes moving on the screen? Is there enough time to plan ahead or are they pretty quick?

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