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NATS interview process

Old 2nd Nov 2016, 18:55
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Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel View Post
I passed the written test and FEAST yesterday... but got the dreaded email this morning saying I'd failed DART.

If anyone's got ideas for other interesting aviation related careers (I have a mechanical engineering background, but not aviation related) please let me know. Sigh.
Look on the bright side, at least you can apply again in a couple of years if ATC is still something that interests you.

I had my medical recently and found out I'm slightly colourblind, so I'm out for good.
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Old 2nd Nov 2016, 19:54
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Aww so sorry to hear that, especially as you did so well to be one of the 1 in 100 or so to get through. I guess it's only a bright side for me if I get through the second time!

I originally wanted to be a professional pilot, but I can only get a Class 2 medical (so I'm OK for ATC and private flying, but not commercial) so I know how it feels. That said, I honestly think not getting through these tests hurts more than being told I can't fly professionally; feeling like a failure isn't nice.

I felt FEAST was fine for me. Because of the number of questions in each section, you get a chance to get into the swing of it. DART ramps up in difficulty so quickly I didn't realise how much I needed to plan ahead before it was too late.

Can you tell me what multi-pass like in comparison?

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Old 3rd Nov 2016, 08:28
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Have you checked the part about the medical with NATS as I believe their requirements are more stringent than the CAA ones for an ATCO, or they were last time I really paid attention to them
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Old 3rd Nov 2016, 11:02
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Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel View Post
Aww so sorry to hear that, especially as you did so well to be one of the 1 in 100 or so to get through. I guess it's only a bright side for me if I get through the second time!

I originally wanted to be a professional pilot, but I can only get a Class 2 medical (so I'm OK for ATC and private flying, but not commercial) so I know how it feels. That said, I honestly think not getting through these tests hurts more than being told I can't fly professionally; feeling like a failure isn't nice.

I felt FEAST was fine for me. Because of the number of questions in each section, you get a chance to get into the swing of it. DART ramps up in difficulty so quickly I didn't realise how much I needed to plan ahead before it was too late.

Can you tell me what multi-pass like in comparison?
Without wanting to give too much away, the multipass does require planning ahead and a lot of multitasking, though once you get a rhythm going everything generally runs quite smoothly. Everyone on the day seemed to find it easier than the DART.

And The Many Tentacles is right, you need a European Class 3 medical certificate for ATC (at least with NATS). If you can only get a Class 2, you might be in the same boat as me.
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Old 3rd Nov 2016, 12:26
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Unless it's changed recently, a Class 2 Medical is more stringent than a Class 3. Class 1 is the highest standard.
When I started, the ATCO requirement in The U.K. was Class 1, for both NATS and non-NATS ATCOs. The was the same as for a commercial pilot, but with slightly more leniency with regards to the frequency of re-examination.
I think the change to a Class 3 for ATCOs came during the mid-2000s?
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Old 3rd Nov 2016, 12:52
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If that's the case, this whole thing is a bit confusing. My report says I'm fit for EASA Class 1 and 2, fit for UK Class 1 but unfit for European Class 3. Maybe European Class 3 is more strict only on the colour vision requirements?
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Old 3rd Nov 2016, 17:49
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Correct, you can't really prepare for FEAST and DART.

With regard to the knowledge test, I would learn as much detail as you can. While I wouldn't describe the test as difficult, you can easily fail if you don't prepare properly.
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Old 7th Nov 2016, 04:05
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Just got back home from my stage 2... I missed the knowledge check by 1 mark!!! Gutted and means I can't apply again for 2 more years I was confident going in and having re-read the pre-reads after I got out I missed a stupid mark by talking myself out of it! Very frustrated.

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Old 9th Nov 2016, 14:07
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Hi frnds.
I am preparing for NATS exam . Can anyone who has preparation syllabus which they send for preparation..
Plzz send me on. [email protected]

Thanxxx
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Old 12th Nov 2016, 13:13
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Hey!
Can anyone give any advice on how to revise for the stage 0 online application tests
Thanks )
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Old 13th Nov 2016, 11:37
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Freddie: this site has examples of what you'll encounter on the stage 0 test https://www.savilleconsulting.com/PracticeTests
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Old 14th Nov 2016, 17:15
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Hello everyone, please can anybody give any examples as to what questions they ask on the knowledge test? They have quite a few aircraft facts and figures - how much of it do we really need to know?

And advice in general about the Stage 2 test would be greatly received, I am nervous! Thank you :-)
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Old 16th Nov 2016, 12:13
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Hi Guys!
I have just been given a start date of 6th Feb next year!! Has anyone else who passed stage 3 heard anything yet?!
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Old 17th Nov 2016, 00:34
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Hi Guys!
I have just been given a start date of 6th Feb next year!! Has anyone else who passed stage 3 heard anything yet?!
Guess what? I got that start date as well
If you want to add me on facebook, send me an email and I can send you my Facebook, will be helpful if we want to share a house or smth...
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Old 21st Nov 2016, 05:37
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I am seeking information on training plans. Anyone able to help (sim hours for each discipline etc.) please pm (or point me in the direction, can't seem to find it by searching, if it is contained here).
Cheers.
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Old 21st Nov 2016, 08:14
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For what reason? That type or information might very well be comercially sensitive.
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Old 21st Nov 2016, 10:15
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Why? In order to get some idea if what we do in the country where I work is in the ball-park.
I understand the sensitive nature of the subject, but that very sensitivity makes it difficult to know where the bench marks are- nobody advertises this stuff.
The CAA is highly considered where I am, and am hoping for a contact.
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Old 24th Nov 2016, 21:10
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Originally Posted by Tim_rjones View Post
Hi Guys!
I have just been given a start date of 6th Feb next year!! Has anyone else who passed stage 3 heard anything yet?!
Hi,

Myself and a colleague have been allocated this course date too.

I believe there are 15 allocated to the course.

Kind of excited and nervous at the same time!
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Old 25th Nov 2016, 07:25
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Originally Posted by MNAsantos View Post
Some people here will thank you for explaining those tests so much... but by applying to NATS you sign a non-discloser agreement that can have serious consequences for you... Not saying you need to take this off, but I'm suggesting you to think about it...
Might want to delete your post then since he's deleted it and you kindly quoted it for him and left it for posterity
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Old 25th Nov 2016, 09:05
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Hello,

I've just passed the Stage 1 NATS test, and have been told that there are currently no dates scheduled for the Stage 2 Assessment Day. Does anybody know how regularly they hold these? Do they just wait until there is enough demand before inviting people?

Thank you
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