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I turn my back for a few months, pfft.
The departure from AUH from my own experience is alittle frustrating but I found that the staff where more than flexible.
If ferris absconded, well I don't see how it makes a lick of difference to anyone else bar Serco. The practise hasn't been done in the past 4 years, but before that it was pretty common.
If management is saying that "from now on" para phrase then I think we've all been around enough to understand the word scapegoat.
I hear that things are improving there, and thats great.
You should hire a couple of goons for your jingly problem burj.
The departure from AUH from my own experience is alittle frustrating but I found that the staff where more than flexible.
If ferris absconded, well I don't see how it makes a lick of difference to anyone else bar Serco. The practise hasn't been done in the past 4 years, but before that it was pretty common.
If management is saying that "from now on" para phrase then I think we've all been around enough to understand the word scapegoat.
I hear that things are improving there, and thats great.
You should hire a couple of goons for your jingly problem burj.
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I'm sorry all, I was mistaken. Because others have committed crimes in the past, it is ok for us all to break the law. I was also mistaken in thinking that as Air Traffic Controllers we were professionals, and as such should act as professionals. We want to be compared to our peers (eg. Airline Pilots), when it comes to salary and accomodation packages, but when it comes to the way we act, it's obviously ok, to be compared to what taxi drivers and labourers do in this country on a regular basis.
You can all defend what he did, and say 1. He's going to fix it all up from Australia ( I highly doubt that), or 2. It's ok cos others have done it (still fraud committed, and no matter how many times done before, still a crime). You may also say, that noone is hurt by this, but as was said earlier the banks factor it in to their bottom line, so we left here with bank loans all pay collectively for Ferris's next racehorse purchase.
As I have said before, the banks may not pursue him in Oz, and neither may the authorities, but the backlash does come when a Serco employee goes to the banks concerned to get a loan and either we are told thanks but no thanks due to recent history, or we are made to pay a higher rate of interest. All in all, a stupid, selfish thing has been done.
You can all defend what he did, and say 1. He's going to fix it all up from Australia ( I highly doubt that), or 2. It's ok cos others have done it (still fraud committed, and no matter how many times done before, still a crime). You may also say, that noone is hurt by this, but as was said earlier the banks factor it in to their bottom line, so we left here with bank loans all pay collectively for Ferris's next racehorse purchase.
As I have said before, the banks may not pursue him in Oz, and neither may the authorities, but the backlash does come when a Serco employee goes to the banks concerned to get a loan and either we are told thanks but no thanks due to recent history, or we are made to pay a higher rate of interest. All in all, a stupid, selfish thing has been done.
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Thanks Burj for the advice, but I do. I have never stolen money. I have never not paid what I have previously agreed to pay. If you refer to my family situation, I have paid for that many times over, and will continue to. I will not do a runner from that, and will continue to meet my obligations. But again thanks for the advice.
Again I say, no matter how many times it has been done before, it is still fraud.
It is obvious that I am in the minority here, in thinking this is wrong. There is no point continuing to swim against the tide, so you all enjoy your mutual SERCO/GCAA slagging session, and I will save my breath. Just don't moan to me next time your visa has a fraudulent transaction made on it. It happens all the time after all. The person doing it surely had good reasons in doing it. And after all it happens so often, the bank surely factors it into their bottom line. And then don't moan the following month when the Visa interest rates rise by another 1% to cover the lastest rise in fraudulent transactions.
Again why bother with all this, as I'm sure most of you don't have the mental capacity to draw the parallel. So forget it.
Enjoy.
Again I say, no matter how many times it has been done before, it is still fraud.
It is obvious that I am in the minority here, in thinking this is wrong. There is no point continuing to swim against the tide, so you all enjoy your mutual SERCO/GCAA slagging session, and I will save my breath. Just don't moan to me next time your visa has a fraudulent transaction made on it. It happens all the time after all. The person doing it surely had good reasons in doing it. And after all it happens so often, the bank surely factors it into their bottom line. And then don't moan the following month when the Visa interest rates rise by another 1% to cover the lastest rise in fraudulent transactions.
Again why bother with all this, as I'm sure most of you don't have the mental capacity to draw the parallel. So forget it.
Enjoy.
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It's bad news for those still there that this thread degenerated into somehow being about me. As stated, what does all this have to do with the AUH ACC and the working conditions there?
I am more than happy to discuss the full, complete story, and will open another thread (the spite thread).
In the mean time, ANSA, you can expect to be served next time you step foot in oz. Fair warning. You never were the sharpest tool in the shed.
I am more than happy to discuss the full, complete story, and will open another thread (the spite thread).
In the mean time, ANSA, you can expect to be served next time you step foot in oz. Fair warning. You never were the sharpest tool in the shed.
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Grow up little man, you started the ball rolling by attacking the man, now you want to take action against someone who fights back. Well best I get my lawyers onto you for your slanders against my 'intelligence'. The spite thread concept is 'so you'.
ANSA
You are not amongst the minority, quite the opposite. A majority of the guys here agree with you. Yes we have issues and we have posted those several time but our little 'The end is nigh' broom stick protesters disagree.
Burj, guys like you will always give our profession a bad name, go and serve shakes with your mate.
cat out
Grow up little man, you started the ball rolling by attacking the man, now you want to take action against someone who fights back. Well best I get my lawyers onto you for your slanders against my 'intelligence'. The spite thread concept is 'so you'.
ANSA
You are not amongst the minority, quite the opposite. A majority of the guys here agree with you. Yes we have issues and we have posted those several time but our little 'The end is nigh' broom stick protesters disagree.
Burj, guys like you will always give our profession a bad name, go and serve shakes with your mate.
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Burgal mate
Your infantile replies give the impression that you and Ferris are co joined at the hip.
Think I'll go for a big Mac. Xtra fries and an up sized coke please.
Gotta laugh, nice one ANSA
Your infantile replies give the impression that you and Ferris are co joined at the hip.
Think I'll go for a big Mac. Xtra fries and an up sized coke please.
Gotta laugh, nice one ANSA
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Cat and Airnobrains and Mr mews (or is it meows...read pussy)
Get off your bloody high perch and heed your own advice and play the ball and not the man...... yeah gotcha there boys!
Totally agree with Burj re his comments about "has this not happened before". It is obvious by your remarks you guys are either not very worldly, stupid, ignorant or have not spent much time in the Gulf OR a combination of all.
I know Cat has been there a while and knows this has gone on in the past and gosh yes pilots have done it (oh but they are so professional...surely their s**t doesnt stink either.....plllleeeease, get real they are only human) as well as taxi drivers and labourers and those in the oil industry etc, if they see an opportunity they will take it to, one can only put up with so much in this place.
So if you have no where else to go and/or are supervisor/management you will back the side of Cat and airnobrains.
Which bring us back to the original thread, of why this has happened and why it has happened before and why it will happen again and why MOST people are unhappy with our conditions.
They (the conditions) need a major overhaul incl the jettisoning of excess baggage (Serco and RJ) out of all contracts in the ME to maintain stability and safety. This is what it is all about and the quicker we see this begin with the AUH contract the better off we will all be.
Now dont get too cocky as things will NOT improve overnight and will most likely take a few years until the right packages with appropriate conditons are offered. The relevant managements need to think way outside the box here and think laterally like the company that runs the gulf chopper mob throughout the ME and their roster of pilots..... something like a 6 week on 6 week off OR a variant of that 6 on 5 off and therefore the pay and conditions to highlight this, but the employee actually gets plenty of time away to recharge their batteries in home country with family and then back for six weeks with a roster that still meets CARS and most likely no leave will be required because the employee only actually works half the time so no leave needed.
No wonder my chopper pilot mates are laughing not only all the way to the bank, but having a great lifestyle as well. This would negate the need for the employer to provide extra amounts for accommodation, but a similiar rudementary type Serco accommodation as this is most likely all that would be needed here as most would be singles for the 6 week on bit and it would be cheaper over all for the employer as the actual wages would barlely need to rise and they would be able to most likely to pay around the current pay per month mark and most likely would be able to negotiate airfare deals with Gulf Air/Emirates to fly these guys home around 9 times per year (for very little infact), bloody good lifestyle if you ask me and as long as the employer paid you into a local UAE bank account all should be OK for tax. I for one would certainly sign up for this kind of offer, my chopper pilot mates love it, and still do some cashies back home.
PPR I am trying to drag this thread out of the mire, so please give us a chance to keep it running
Chow
Get off your bloody high perch and heed your own advice and play the ball and not the man...... yeah gotcha there boys!
Totally agree with Burj re his comments about "has this not happened before". It is obvious by your remarks you guys are either not very worldly, stupid, ignorant or have not spent much time in the Gulf OR a combination of all.
I know Cat has been there a while and knows this has gone on in the past and gosh yes pilots have done it (oh but they are so professional...surely their s**t doesnt stink either.....plllleeeease, get real they are only human) as well as taxi drivers and labourers and those in the oil industry etc, if they see an opportunity they will take it to, one can only put up with so much in this place.
So if you have no where else to go and/or are supervisor/management you will back the side of Cat and airnobrains.
Which bring us back to the original thread, of why this has happened and why it has happened before and why it will happen again and why MOST people are unhappy with our conditions.
They (the conditions) need a major overhaul incl the jettisoning of excess baggage (Serco and RJ) out of all contracts in the ME to maintain stability and safety. This is what it is all about and the quicker we see this begin with the AUH contract the better off we will all be.
Now dont get too cocky as things will NOT improve overnight and will most likely take a few years until the right packages with appropriate conditons are offered. The relevant managements need to think way outside the box here and think laterally like the company that runs the gulf chopper mob throughout the ME and their roster of pilots..... something like a 6 week on 6 week off OR a variant of that 6 on 5 off and therefore the pay and conditions to highlight this, but the employee actually gets plenty of time away to recharge their batteries in home country with family and then back for six weeks with a roster that still meets CARS and most likely no leave will be required because the employee only actually works half the time so no leave needed.
No wonder my chopper pilot mates are laughing not only all the way to the bank, but having a great lifestyle as well. This would negate the need for the employer to provide extra amounts for accommodation, but a similiar rudementary type Serco accommodation as this is most likely all that would be needed here as most would be singles for the 6 week on bit and it would be cheaper over all for the employer as the actual wages would barlely need to rise and they would be able to most likely to pay around the current pay per month mark and most likely would be able to negotiate airfare deals with Gulf Air/Emirates to fly these guys home around 9 times per year (for very little infact), bloody good lifestyle if you ask me and as long as the employer paid you into a local UAE bank account all should be OK for tax. I for one would certainly sign up for this kind of offer, my chopper pilot mates love it, and still do some cashies back home.
PPR I am trying to drag this thread out of the mire, so please give us a chance to keep it running
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Let me get this correct. You are suggesting that Serco recruit people to come on a six week off six week on basis and use simple basic accomodation! Somehow can't see professional married guys with young families seeing this as a big inducement.
So little sweet pea, how many staff will this require to run a 24/7 operation?
Do your chopper mates fly all through the night? Don't think so.
Suggest you go back to school and study some economics.
Engage brain before opening mouth little fellow.
Work out a business plan, simpleton.
Let me get this correct. You are suggesting that Serco recruit people to come on a six week off six week on basis and use simple basic accomodation! Somehow can't see professional married guys with young families seeing this as a big inducement.
So little sweet pea, how many staff will this require to run a 24/7 operation?
Do your chopper mates fly all through the night? Don't think so.
Suggest you go back to school and study some economics.
Engage brain before opening mouth little fellow.
Work out a business plan, simpleton.
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Hey don't knock the man he is only thinking laterally, flat on his back after a pint or 22.
Yak yak, can't see it working. The cost per employee would be enormous, we are needing more staff as the traffic increases and yes, I agree, a package like that would certainly sound too good to be true but realistically that travelling back and forth would kill you. What's wrong with staying here?
It is quite amazing, we are arguing (or healthy debate, you choose) with each other about the same thing viz, salary must improve, accomadation must improve and conditions must improve. In between the nitty bitty detail we have only managed to turn on each other. I suggest (as ANSA started with) that the problems here are ours. Those that are leaving or have left should mind there own business (big Macs or otherwise).
burj dear boy, no nerve struck and agree with mr mews regarding the infantile replies, go on sue me, make my day punk
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Hey don't knock the man he is only thinking laterally, flat on his back after a pint or 22.
Yak yak, can't see it working. The cost per employee would be enormous, we are needing more staff as the traffic increases and yes, I agree, a package like that would certainly sound too good to be true but realistically that travelling back and forth would kill you. What's wrong with staying here?
It is quite amazing, we are arguing (or healthy debate, you choose) with each other about the same thing viz, salary must improve, accomadation must improve and conditions must improve. In between the nitty bitty detail we have only managed to turn on each other. I suggest (as ANSA started with) that the problems here are ours. Those that are leaving or have left should mind there own business (big Macs or otherwise).
burj dear boy, no nerve struck and agree with mr mews regarding the infantile replies, go on sue me, make my day punk
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Yo Ferris
yur street cred man is uncool 'cos:
on 21st Oct 05 you say "It saddens me when you get ideas that I am motivated out of spite"
& then
on 25th Oct 05 you say "I will open another thread (the spite thread).
R sole, you are flying off de planet into well deserved obscurity.
Reckon that why Melbourne has no vacancies, man!
yur street cred man is uncool 'cos:
on 21st Oct 05 you say "It saddens me when you get ideas that I am motivated out of spite"
& then
on 25th Oct 05 you say "I will open another thread (the spite thread).
R sole, you are flying off de planet into well deserved obscurity.
Reckon that why Melbourne has no vacancies, man!
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Have to agree with the above posts. On one side is the guys who think everything is doomed and there is no light at the end of the tunnel. On the other side are those who feel things will shortly improve. Both sides agree that things need to improve drastically. Neither side will agree as to the future, and so all that we can do is wait and see. Therefore the thread has run its course and so no harm would be done in ending it.
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Gentlemen (and I use that term loosely for some)
firstly, Menstrual fool/ cherry bum/ Verci , a typical Serco management response, quash the discussion before maybe people start to think as a group and you are batting against an unstoppable tide. Too late for that bucko.
I quote airnobrains
[QUOTE]so all that we can do is wait and see.
This is definitely the last thing you want to do is sit and wait. We guys to be proactive with this. Yes, I know they dont like unions or the hint of group activity but that is what will actually accelerate our increase in conditions and pay, but the problem is you will actually have to be all prepared to fall on your own sword if necessary, and as you all seem to believe you have other "fantastic" jobs and places to return to them this should be no problem. Ferris did this (irrespective of how) but had to do it alone as some other have done in the past, but as has been proved one little voice at a time does little.
If we all went in to RJ (forget Serco here) on masse (at least a third of the staff) and basically said this is what we want (list of claims) and this is when we expect your positive response to this (say 7-14 days) and if the answer is no then we should be prepared to resign enmasse together. I can guarantee you that RJ will drop like a plum at our feet and give in. The centre cant survive with that many staff gone (and he knows that) and cant train that many in that space of time.
The only problem with this is that the Seffricans will not be party to it but they dont make more than half the roster. Like I said if you have such good job to go back to then this should be no problem. Remember that some of you shortly could be working as a Serco employee along side (or training) some expat as a GCAA direct hire who is earning more than you and will be better off than you, so maybe you should think hard about that one, I bet that will stick in your craw a bit, because it would mine.
You really have nothing to lose. IF you do nothing, you are drifting on the tides of fate and allowing someone else to dictate your future. At least Ferris bless him made his decision did what he felt he had to do, and left. At least he made a decision, whereas airno brains, cat and co want to sit and wait, well you should have a plan B like Ferris did (to go out on your terms) so you can pull the pin when required, mine is now in place (if required).
chow
firstly, Menstrual fool/ cherry bum/ Verci , a typical Serco management response, quash the discussion before maybe people start to think as a group and you are batting against an unstoppable tide. Too late for that bucko.
I quote airnobrains
[QUOTE]so all that we can do is wait and see.
This is definitely the last thing you want to do is sit and wait. We guys to be proactive with this. Yes, I know they dont like unions or the hint of group activity but that is what will actually accelerate our increase in conditions and pay, but the problem is you will actually have to be all prepared to fall on your own sword if necessary, and as you all seem to believe you have other "fantastic" jobs and places to return to them this should be no problem. Ferris did this (irrespective of how) but had to do it alone as some other have done in the past, but as has been proved one little voice at a time does little.
If we all went in to RJ (forget Serco here) on masse (at least a third of the staff) and basically said this is what we want (list of claims) and this is when we expect your positive response to this (say 7-14 days) and if the answer is no then we should be prepared to resign enmasse together. I can guarantee you that RJ will drop like a plum at our feet and give in. The centre cant survive with that many staff gone (and he knows that) and cant train that many in that space of time.
The only problem with this is that the Seffricans will not be party to it but they dont make more than half the roster. Like I said if you have such good job to go back to then this should be no problem. Remember that some of you shortly could be working as a Serco employee along side (or training) some expat as a GCAA direct hire who is earning more than you and will be better off than you, so maybe you should think hard about that one, I bet that will stick in your craw a bit, because it would mine.
You really have nothing to lose. IF you do nothing, you are drifting on the tides of fate and allowing someone else to dictate your future. At least Ferris bless him made his decision did what he felt he had to do, and left. At least he made a decision, whereas airno brains, cat and co want to sit and wait, well you should have a plan B like Ferris did (to go out on your terms) so you can pull the pin when required, mine is now in place (if required).
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Can someone please end this thread - you have all become offensive beyond any realms of humour or decency.
You just belittle yourselves and IMHO achieve nothing.
Hardly professional
You just belittle yourselves and IMHO achieve nothing.
Hardly professional
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Looks like this thread is about to end so to all my sparring partners thanks it has been real and I just want to say I have nothing more to say
Better run Mewsy has got his intranet out to catch some fish and I don't want to get caught in it
Better run Mewsy has got his intranet out to catch some fish and I don't want to get caught in it
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Welcome to the healthy debate. Keep in mind the the unhappy (whinging) guys posting on this thread do not even live/work here anymore. Those that are providing some sort optimism are those still here. Now, why would guys who have left be so negative about this place? Makes you think? Burj, don't even try to convince me that you work here, how is the wx by the way? As for SS/rat, as one who might even be burj in another guise.
Yak yak, still yakking, done with the knitting dear? What's the deal with seffricans, took your job?
Ok, that is my last cat fight, time to get my cream, purr purr.
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Welcome to the healthy debate. Keep in mind the the unhappy (whinging) guys posting on this thread do not even live/work here anymore. Those that are providing some sort optimism are those still here. Now, why would guys who have left be so negative about this place? Makes you think? Burj, don't even try to convince me that you work here, how is the wx by the way? As for SS/rat, as one who might even be burj in another guise.
Yak yak, still yakking, done with the knitting dear? What's the deal with seffricans, took your job?
Ok, that is my last cat fight, time to get my cream, purr purr.
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I said I had nothing more to say and don't worry I'm one of those people who can shut up when told to shut up because there's nothing worse then when someone goes on and on and on and on..... Where was I
Oh yes pprune radar can you leave this thread on here until we can post the contract details of next year and argue about those all over again. I promised I would post them. If things do improve I am not going to hide and not say I wasn't wrong here, just head off to the souk to haggle over the price of the extra large "Vuitton" wallet.
Oh yes pprune radar can you leave this thread on here until we can post the contract details of next year and argue about those all over again. I promised I would post them. If things do improve I am not going to hide and not say I wasn't wrong here, just head off to the souk to haggle over the price of the extra large "Vuitton" wallet.
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Is there not a man amoungst you with more that half a brain cell firing at full throttle??
I cannot believe that you have all followed my rapier sharp wit, my razor sharp humour and my needle sharp observations ( am running out of sharp things here) and still compare me to he-who-cannot-be -named.
Your lack of imagination and poor,poor guessing skills have left me underwhelmed. Well, ppruners, you dissappoint me. You are about as wrong with my id as you are with most of your points in your threads. It goes to show who is backing a dead horse here, dear friends.
You, burj and ferris, have attacked me with unwarrented ferociousness. How silly you are going to look if you eventually get to find out who I am. You latch onto a bad idea, run with it, making as much noise as possible, get it all wrong and end up with egg on your face, much like you do in the work place, eh, ferris. (and I'm not talking about MacDonalds)
This will probably be the last of me on this thread as it looks as though its spiralling into the black pit of oblivion. But I'm not making any promises.
Piniped, you haven't uttered a word since you opened this thread....
Nurse! Nurse! A last G & T and then you can pull the plug, dear........
I cannot believe that you have all followed my rapier sharp wit, my razor sharp humour and my needle sharp observations ( am running out of sharp things here) and still compare me to he-who-cannot-be -named.
Your lack of imagination and poor,poor guessing skills have left me underwhelmed. Well, ppruners, you dissappoint me. You are about as wrong with my id as you are with most of your points in your threads. It goes to show who is backing a dead horse here, dear friends.
You, burj and ferris, have attacked me with unwarrented ferociousness. How silly you are going to look if you eventually get to find out who I am. You latch onto a bad idea, run with it, making as much noise as possible, get it all wrong and end up with egg on your face, much like you do in the work place, eh, ferris. (and I'm not talking about MacDonalds)
This will probably be the last of me on this thread as it looks as though its spiralling into the black pit of oblivion. But I'm not making any promises.
Piniped, you haven't uttered a word since you opened this thread....
Nurse! Nurse! A last G & T and then you can pull the plug, dear........
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Goodness me
Well I go away for a week or so and look what happens!!!
All the slagging off at each other is hardly becoming guys, does not show our profession in a particularly good light.
As I am sure has been said an nauseum, argue the point. Don't play the man.
Your point of view will be much better received if put across in a calm, well reasoned and thoughtful manner.
Much of this drivel makes us all look like immature teenagers, both those posting and those that are trying to respond.
For the benefit of those that may think that they can get away with anything illegal in the future, an anecdote from Dubai (farily recent past).
Someone did an allegedly deliberate runner from his workplace, having racked up some fairly hefty debts.
Went back to the UK and, apparently knowing UK banking laws, thought he was bulletproof.
However, the Dubai bank were a little more aggressive in following it up, to the point of "selling" the debt to a third party collection agency.
The Dubai bank manager was congratulated by his management for at least regaining a small portion of what would have otherwise been written off as bad debt.
Our chap in the Uk however, had a knock on the door from two rather large men in long coats and baseball bats. No joke, he apparently spent some time in hospital with damaged legs.
He had been "encouraged" to pay back what was owed to them.
Not saying or suggesting anything about anyone mentioned on this thread, just a salient reminder to all that not everyone is a nice polite banker, who will just take losses on the chin.
Apart from that ,had a great time up in UAE and a fabulous couple of dives in the Musandam..including a dive during a coral spawn! Don't see that every day!
Foxy, welcome back, good to see that Wilma didn't get you!
All the slagging off at each other is hardly becoming guys, does not show our profession in a particularly good light.
As I am sure has been said an nauseum, argue the point. Don't play the man.
Your point of view will be much better received if put across in a calm, well reasoned and thoughtful manner.
Much of this drivel makes us all look like immature teenagers, both those posting and those that are trying to respond.
For the benefit of those that may think that they can get away with anything illegal in the future, an anecdote from Dubai (farily recent past).
Someone did an allegedly deliberate runner from his workplace, having racked up some fairly hefty debts.
Went back to the UK and, apparently knowing UK banking laws, thought he was bulletproof.
However, the Dubai bank were a little more aggressive in following it up, to the point of "selling" the debt to a third party collection agency.
The Dubai bank manager was congratulated by his management for at least regaining a small portion of what would have otherwise been written off as bad debt.
Our chap in the Uk however, had a knock on the door from two rather large men in long coats and baseball bats. No joke, he apparently spent some time in hospital with damaged legs.
He had been "encouraged" to pay back what was owed to them.
Not saying or suggesting anything about anyone mentioned on this thread, just a salient reminder to all that not everyone is a nice polite banker, who will just take losses on the chin.
Apart from that ,had a great time up in UAE and a fabulous couple of dives in the Musandam..including a dive during a coral spawn! Don't see that every day!
Foxy, welcome back, good to see that Wilma didn't get you!
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Cheerz mate....Wilma did actually get me, it was one of the KLM girls but that's another story
Its good to be home, most of my spare time has been taken up trying to wade through all of these posts....seems a lot of people out there need a hug
Keep smiling guys and gals things can't get any worse and after all if you are all good Santa will bring you a new contract and everybody will live happily ever after
Its good to be home, most of my spare time has been taken up trying to wade through all of these posts....seems a lot of people out there need a hug
Keep smiling guys and gals things can't get any worse and after all if you are all good Santa will bring you a new contract and everybody will live happily ever after
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gone very quiet on this thread all of a sudden.
I guess the GCAA and Serco mangagment crisis meeting about what to do about the PPrune posters has started to have impact. I guess they are threatening to fire if they suspect anyone.
Well management wallys keep looking and keep threatening, you are on your last legs and you know it. For those of us still here, some are working on exit strategies as we speak, which will only make matters worse for you.
Foxxy how about comment from you as you are only 8 or so weeks from exit or did the DANS offer you better than Muscat?
Iam guessing the latter >30K dhs/mth so now your direct and you get your gratuity from Serco still?
Si ti would seem Muscat now have 4 holes to fill the 3 who's contracts were rescinded plus it would appear Fox.
Bet the SATCO down there is pissed off.
Have they lost the contract yet?
Chow
gone very quiet on this thread all of a sudden.
I guess the GCAA and Serco mangagment crisis meeting about what to do about the PPrune posters has started to have impact. I guess they are threatening to fire if they suspect anyone.
Well management wallys keep looking and keep threatening, you are on your last legs and you know it. For those of us still here, some are working on exit strategies as we speak, which will only make matters worse for you.
Foxxy how about comment from you as you are only 8 or so weeks from exit or did the DANS offer you better than Muscat?
Iam guessing the latter >30K dhs/mth so now your direct and you get your gratuity from Serco still?
Si ti would seem Muscat now have 4 holes to fill the 3 who's contracts were rescinded plus it would appear Fox.
Bet the SATCO down there is pissed off.
Have they lost the contract yet?
Chow
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