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Double Hydco
30th Aug 2008, 09:31
Sorry for the delay...work got in the way of pprune. This is my (Mrs DH's really) first attempt at attaching a pic.....hope it works!

http://lh5.ggpht.com/lucyjane8/SLkNzSPOxaI/AAAAAAAAAH8/iTkR1uOwpno/img035.jpg?imgmax=512

Krakatoa
30th Aug 2008, 10:22
I know it is not Cairns. These hangers were not there this morning.

chevvron
31st Aug 2008, 08:28
Snow and huge hangars; somewhere in Canada or possibly Alaska?(That prime mover on the bowser looks American)

LFT
31st Aug 2008, 10:33
Goose Bay.

MReyn24050
31st Aug 2008, 11:26
Gander perhaps?
Mel

chevvron
31st Aug 2008, 13:11
VERY wild guess; Dutch Harbour

Fishtailed
31st Aug 2008, 15:45
Well it's not Belfast so could be Seattle.

621andy
31st Aug 2008, 15:48
Ok, haven't played for some time, but I'd guess(wildly)somewhere in the UK ooop north.


It appears to be a Heavylift Belfast - I dunno, Prestwick???

evansb
31st Aug 2008, 16:43
While awaiting Double Hydco's reply, I'd have to say LFT is probably correct. A colleague of mine used to work there, and he says it sure looks like Happy Valley-Goose Bay, Labrador, Canada.

MReyn24050
31st Aug 2008, 17:51
I agree with Bri, LFT is definitely correct. Goose Bay
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Airport/5_Wing_Goose_Bay.jpg
Mel

Double Hydco
31st Aug 2008, 22:47
Yep, it is Goose Bay. Well done LFT!

Had to put the Belfast in the RAF hangar for the night, because it was -37 degrees C outside, and a balmy -14 degrees inside!

All yours LFT.....

DH

LFT
1st Sep 2008, 08:47
Thanks DH, I'll post another challenge ASAP.

LFT
1st Sep 2008, 16:47
Sorry for the delay - Here's the next "Which Aerodrome" -

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd11/DJ17DJ/USAMay2008570.jpg

Fishtailed
1st Sep 2008, 19:08
Gaydon, Warwickshire.

LFT
1st Sep 2008, 19:13
Oh well, that didn't last long, well done Fishtailed, over to you :ok:

Fishtailed
1st Sep 2008, 19:31
Thanks, LFT, the experimental surface gave it away, didn't look aviation related.
Try this one-
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f280/fishtailed/sorti252003-1.jpg

KeMac
2nd Sep 2008, 07:26
Bristol Lulsgate??

Upyer RRR
2nd Sep 2008, 07:56
Inskip, aka HMS Nightjar?

chevvron
2nd Sep 2008, 13:20
Barford St John or Croughton?
Damn just looked at Flashearth; it Is Inskip isn't it!!

Upyer RRR
2nd Sep 2008, 14:09
I'm away for the next few days. If I'm right with Inskip . . .


OPEN HOUSE!

Fishtailed
2nd Sep 2008, 14:20
Formerly RNAS Inskip it is Upyer RRRs

Open House.

olympus
2nd Sep 2008, 15:18
This is an easy one; the airfield may have been posted before but not this view of it. Hope this is OK. (That's me in the lhs; almost on the centreline!)

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg150/gwpcrescue/1971JanODAPE7.jpg

chevvron
2nd Sep 2008, 16:42
Tombstone Arizona?

olympus
2nd Sep 2008, 17:39
Not Tombstone, sorry.

Captain Airclues
2nd Sep 2008, 19:20
Marana, Arizona?

Double Hydco
2nd Sep 2008, 20:14
How about Mojave, CA?

olympus
2nd Sep 2008, 20:18
Not North America.

merlinxx
2nd Sep 2008, 20:21
Seeb ?


Sorry 'bout the spaces, Seeb was too short!

olympus
2nd Sep 2008, 20:25
Not Seeb. Maybe it's not as easy as I thought.

spekesoftly
2nd Sep 2008, 20:47
Nicosia Runway 32 ?

olympus
2nd Sep 2008, 21:01
Nicosia it is. Taken Jan 1971 from Aero Club of Lebanon's C172 OD-APE.

Try this one:-

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg150/gwpcrescue/FK27.jpg

spekesoftly
2nd Sep 2008, 21:19
Thanks olympus, err - OK, Open House! ;)

olympus
2nd Sep 2008, 21:21
Oh dear! Have I misunderstood how this works? I'm happy to delete my last offering to permit Spekesoftly to go.

spekesoftly
2nd Sep 2008, 21:23
No worries, it's past my bedtime anyway, so please carry on. :ok:

Fishtailed
4th Sep 2008, 12:05
Is it Moroni, the base of Air Comores.

Background Noise
4th Sep 2008, 12:18
I hate it when people do this - Mombasa? But I'll be away for long w/e so open house if correct.

twochai
4th Sep 2008, 17:04
The terrain is similar to that around Tananarive, Madagascar.

norwich
4th Sep 2008, 21:01
Let me make the list even longer with Teneriffe North. Keith.

Duckbutt
5th Sep 2008, 09:26
I'm with Background Noise on Mombasa. As Air Comores apparently only had the one F27 which had a French registration about 1980 before being reregistered locally, this photo I found is I suggest taken from a similar viewpoint but much more recently:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/6454376.jpg

Perhaps you would like to confirm (or perhaps otherwise) Olympus?

olympus
5th Sep 2008, 11:48
Yes, Mombasa it is. Photo taken sometime in 1980 just before I flew to Moroni on that FK27.

OPEN HOUSE

Fishtailed
5th Sep 2008, 12:10
OK I'll jump in with this one.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f280/fishtailed/ap.jpg

AfgAirOps
5th Sep 2008, 17:40
Istanbul Ataturk?

Rgds
AAO

Fishtailed
6th Sep 2008, 16:35
Afraid not, AAO, too far east.

twochai
6th Sep 2008, 17:14
Tarbes, france?

Bigt
6th Sep 2008, 17:26
Long shot...is that a starfighter on a stick in the distance?

Moira
6th Sep 2008, 18:27
And above that possible starfighter, would that be a French flag?

RETDPI
6th Sep 2008, 18:51
Looks indeed like a Starfighter - Italian Flag?????

norwich
6th Sep 2008, 19:09
Possibly a Jaguar between the buildings ? below the "starfighter" nose ???
Keith.

RETDPI
6th Sep 2008, 19:28
......or an AMX ? :E

Warmtoast
6th Sep 2008, 20:55
Verona, Villafranca Air Base, Italy?

I'll let my choice stand for now but having had a look at all the F-104's on poles in Italy listed here:

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.i-f-s.nl/pres/SE/MM54231.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.i-f-s.nl/index85.htm&h=521&w=816&sz=46&hl=en&start=12&sig2=FR6rzbYN_iV3rkD9wEyPcw&um=1&usg=__da_RZJb8PDGXDcigZ6ANi8t076I=&tbnid=BlaYuT7Wnes80M:&tbnh=92&tbnw=144&ei=CPHCSI-ZMJPG0gSFtcD1Bw&prev=/images%3Fq%3DVerona,%2BVillafranca%2BAir%2BBase%2BPhotos%26u m%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4GGIH_en-GBGB212GB212%26sa%3DN

..I'm not so sure!

Later

Very odd when looking at Verona Villafranca with MS Live Search Maps, MS seem to have gone all coy with this Italian airfield and chopped it in half and overlaid the image with pseudo fields as seen here:

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/Villafranca-Verona1.jpg

Meanwhile details are still available with Google Earth as here:

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/Villafranca-Verona2-Google.jpg

Security taken to extremes?

nacluv
7th Sep 2008, 09:35
Best I can come up with is Caselle, Turin.

Fishtailed
7th Sep 2008, 10:28
nacluv has it, the Allennia part of Casselle, Turin. Carry on.

nacluv
7th Sep 2008, 11:54
Yay! I got one! Thanks, Fishtailed. I'd got the F104 on the pole, but I have to say that credit is due to warmtoast for the steer in the right direction. I suspect I was merely the first one to get the post in.

Incidentally, Norwich, if you look at the site in Google Earth, that Jaguar or whatever is it is 'still' there. You can't see the F104 however as there is some whiteout evident where it should be.

I don't see this one on the list...
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/kwilson1965/nacluv/Where.jpg

Shouldn't pose too much of a problem?

chevvron
8th Sep 2008, 10:44
Stanley FI?

nacluv
8th Sep 2008, 13:04
Right first time! Didn't think it would last too long.

Chevvron - you have control...

chevvron
8th Sep 2008, 13:16
The Landrover and colour of the building rather gave it away.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOpen House

Double Hydco
8th Sep 2008, 16:31
Try this one.....hope there's not too much aeroplane and not enough aerodrome?

http://lh3.ggpht.com/lucyjane8/SMVQ6rdHEnI/AAAAAAAAAJg/OXamHT6yo0I/s576/img040.jpg

SilentHandover
8th Sep 2008, 19:04
Rome Ciampino?

Double Hydco
8th Sep 2008, 19:16
No, not CIA.

sidtheesexist
9th Sep 2008, 09:46
Sarajevo.........?

SilentHandover
9th Sep 2008, 10:10
Naval Air Station Sigonella

Double Hydco
9th Sep 2008, 10:13
You're thinking along the right lines Sid!

sidtheesexist
9th Sep 2008, 14:06
Mostar, LQMO?

Double Hydco
9th Sep 2008, 17:06
It isn't Mostar either.....

evansb
10th Sep 2008, 02:37
Rinas Airport, Tirana, Albania ?

Double Hydco
10th Sep 2008, 07:42
Not Tirana.

Davidsoffice
10th Sep 2008, 09:04
Podgorica?

Double Hydco
10th Sep 2008, 10:39
Not Podgorica.

chevvron
10th Sep 2008, 12:03
(Tongue in cheek) Berne/Belp?

denis555
10th Sep 2008, 12:14
Graf Ignatievo???

larssnowpharter
11th Sep 2008, 12:24
Skopje?

macedonski

sycamore
11th Sep 2008, 20:14
Split ? down the middle...

sidtheesexist
12th Sep 2008, 11:34
Pristina, BKPR?

Double Hydco
12th Sep 2008, 13:53
Yes it is skopje. all yours larssnowpharter...well done! DH

larssnowpharter
14th Sep 2008, 15:48
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t295/larssnowpharter/nicetrip.jpg

Apologies for the delay; (computer) virus problem.

here is your next airfield.

larssnowpharter
15th Sep 2008, 15:56
Over 200 views and not even a stab at it.

Clue: This airfield is one of the oldest active airfields around and was certainly a military airfield during World War One.

dash7fan
15th Sep 2008, 16:19
Asiago, Italy?

larssnowpharter
15th Sep 2008, 18:05
dash7fan,

You have control, Sir.:D:D:D

I note that you are not far from this well known cheese making 'Altopiano'.

Well done.

Asaigo is also one of the highest airfields in Europe as well as one of the oldest.

I am not sure of this but there is also the possibility that ac from the Austro/Hungarian air forces as well as the Italian Air Force also flew from this strip during that war. The locals say this is so.

Plug: Great place to go for gliding. The Dolomites are - arguably - the most beautiful mountains in the world.

Try a cross county to Innsbuck from here. VERY testing.

dash7fan
15th Sep 2008, 20:35
Thanks Larssnowpharter,

I know this field only from overflying and it is not far away from my homebase Innsbruck. You are correct, Asiago was an airfield from the Austro-Hungarian Airforce during 1914-1918.



Here are 2 photos of the next airfield

http://member.file-upload.net/seneca/101-0193_IMG.JPG




http://member.file-upload.net/seneca/101-0195_IMG.JPG

overfly
15th Sep 2008, 22:32
Davis base AAT?

evansb
16th Sep 2008, 06:31
I don't know where the photo was taken, but I do know the aircraft in the photo is the best short-range turbo-prop airliner the world has ever known. In addition, the engines and props were designed by a group of stellar engineers. Without any personal bias what-so-ever, I must concede the people who assemble the aero-engines in my home town are second-to-none. Yup, completely without bias. Well...just a little bias..:)

dash7fan
16th Sep 2008, 07:42
overfly

it is not Davis

Evansb

I fully agree that the Dash 8 is a wonderful aircraft. During my more than 11000 hrs on this type I had only 2 uncomplicated engine failures. A very reliable and easy to operate aircraft. Thanks to all your people in your hometown.

evansb
16th Sep 2008, 08:18
11,000 hours on a Dash-8 ? Any Dash-7 time ? She was the Cadillac of Regional Airliners.
If DH would have slanted the windshield on the Dash-7 an additional 10 degrees, it would have yielded an additional 12 knots airspeed. Dang! The resultant increase/change was on the drawing board before the first Dash -Seven left Downsview !

dash7fan
16th Sep 2008, 09:58
Yes Evansb, I have 6000 hrs on the -7, but I retired 3 years ago. So no more hours on these wunderful aircrafts. By the way I trained for the -7 and -8 at Downsview at the old de Havilland Pilotsschool. You know the old buildings where the Mosquito was produced during WW2. Instructors were, for instance, Don Rodgers, Mick Saunders, Bill Pullen...

And the airfield in question has a similarity with Downsview. It was established 1936 as a company airfield.

rgs

twochai
16th Sep 2008, 10:10
I don't think its Downsview, Dash7Fan, unless the 'hill' behind the airplane is the Missisauga garbage hill, on approach to rwy 32 at YYZ, now a ski slope.

My guess is we're looking at somewhere in Alaska?

dash7fan
16th Sep 2008, 11:38
Sorry for misunderstanding. Downsview is the airport of de Havilland Canada. This airfield is an airfield from an other aircraft manufacturer, which went out of business a few years ago and is not in America.

twochai
16th Sep 2008, 12:35
OK, I can backtrack quicker than most!

Oberpfaffenhofen??



Dash7fan: check your PM.

dash7fan
16th Sep 2008, 13:59
twochai, yes you are correct. It is the former Dornier field Oberpfaffenhofen near Munich.

The Dash 8 was leased to Qantas for 2 years.

twochai
16th Sep 2008, 14:33
Here is the next challenge.

Tip: While the rather cold water doesn't exactly fit EvansB's precise definition as a 'licenced waterdrome', the visible land does constitute part of a recognized 'landing ground' with some historic significance, I think.


http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk89/twochai/Ifoundit.jpg

larssnowpharter
16th Sep 2008, 15:11
One suspects that this may be a certain beach in N Carolina. Very good, Sir!:ok:

twochai
16th Sep 2008, 18:40
Certainly not as historic and quite a long way from the beach at Kill Devil Hills.

This is not a very high resolution photo, unfortunately, but that's ice out there in the channel! By the way, the photo was taken just last month, in August!

Tip: Try doubling the latitude.

Flap40
16th Sep 2008, 23:02
Cambridge Bay?

twochai
17th Sep 2008, 03:33
Not Cambridge Bay, Flap 40, but you're not so far away - at least in Arctic units of distance. You're only 660NM+/- too far south southwest.

You (or somebody else) can find it!

Soddit
17th Sep 2008, 04:56
Is it the strip at Beechey Island just off the s tip of Devon Island?

aviate1138
17th Sep 2008, 06:43
Wainwright airstrip, a bit south of Wiley Post airport Barrow Alaska?

twochai
17th Sep 2008, 09:17
Sorry, not Wainwright, not Beechey Island, although they're both close.

Unortunately, I'm going travelling and will be out of touch for 24 hours so I'm going to have to bring this one to an end prematurely! The answer is, in fact, Eureka, in the eastern arctic territory of Nunavut.

Eureka was recently the most northerly point of landing of two intrepid DHC Beaver owners/enthusiasts from Seattle who are currently on the final stages of a a very ambitious circumnavigation of Canada in two Beaver floatplanes! Flying up the BC coast and across the Rocky mountains to Whitehorse, Yukon Territory, and north to Inuvik on the Arctic Ocean they then headed east to follow what is generally known as the Northwest Passage to Cambridge Bay, Resolute Bay and then up to Eureka. The trip was meticulously planned with satellite communications and modern GPS navigation devices, of course, but otherwise they just landed when the weather deteriorated, erected tents and camped out on the tundra until the weather improved to allow onward flight, just as the pioneers did 60 years ago!

The rather tenuous historic connection I claim for Doug DevRies and Mark Schoening is their landing on floats at Eureka, a very lonely Canadian weather station located at 80 degrees north latitude. I believe they must have broken some sort of record for the most northerly landing ever undertaken by a floatplane anywhere in the world because only recently, with the effects of global warming, has there been enough open water to permit such an escapade.

Their exploits can be followed on their excellent website at:

The Great Actic Air Adventure (http://www.greatarcticairadventure.com/Route_Map/index.html)

I commend it to anyone interested. Discovery Channel documentary to come.

Again, I apologise to all, I thought we could complete it in time, we were so close. Regrettably, now it must be: OPEN HOUSE!

grizzled
17th Sep 2008, 15:33
Okay . . flame me all you like but I have read the FAQs and instructions on insertion of pictures -- and there is nowhere on this composition page I can find a way to activate the attachments or img function.

Help?

Background Noise
17th Sep 2008, 16:28
Have you read this thread (http://www.pprune.org/spectators-balcony-spotters-corner/203481-image-posting-pprune-guide.html)?

norwich
17th Sep 2008, 18:25
While we await developments, can I slip this easy one in ? Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/where12.jpg

Background Noise
17th Sep 2008, 19:52
Edinburgh?

Flap40
17th Sep 2008, 20:05
Agreed. EDI before the new runway was built.

norwich
17th Sep 2008, 20:15
Background Noise has it, it is indeed Turnhouse 1962 I think ? Looking forward to your next challenge thank you. Keith.

eninem
17th Sep 2008, 20:49
Great picture! The bings are now a national monument.

norwich
17th Sep 2008, 21:17
Um yes ! credit for the pic must go to Colin Laurie, But what are the bings ??? Keith ?

grizzled
17th Sep 2008, 21:18
It's all yours. I'll have the photo posting figured out by the time another open house comes up . . .

Grizz

Flap40
17th Sep 2008, 21:27
Bing is the Scottish word for Slagheap, two of which are visible in the distance.

norwich
17th Sep 2008, 21:34
Thanks for that Flap 40, We live and learn ! Keith

asmccuk
17th Sep 2008, 23:53
Excuse the thread creep, but that picture shows the spot where I started my interest in aeroplanes 60 years ago. No 1 tram from Liberton to Corstorphine, walk from tram terminus to Turnhouse to watch Spitfires and then Vampires of the RAuxAF while standing in the ditch beside the railway line! Even logged the odd steam engine.
Where do all the years go?
ASMCCUK

Background Noise
18th Sep 2008, 06:43
Not too historic but we haven't had it before:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/stickshaker/somewheretoo.jpg

sidtheesexist
18th Sep 2008, 09:58
Back seat of a Hawk/Tucano into Leeming as a first shot.....

Background Noise
18th Sep 2008, 10:37
Hawk yes, but not UK.

sidtheesexist
18th Sep 2008, 17:06
I see some HASs so can I assume military and near continent perhaps?

Moira
18th Sep 2008, 17:53
The Netherlands somewhere?

Background Noise
18th Sep 2008, 20:05
Not the Netherlands, nor an immediate neighbour.

BAMRA wake up
18th Sep 2008, 21:44
White car in the foreground, driving on the right - doesn't tell us anything we don't know already. The tracks look like exposed chalk - so maybe: a smallish military aerodrome in a chalk region of (northern?) France.
The sun appears to be relatively high to left of picture, so the runway's roughly east-west. I'm off to Google Earth!

Reims - Champagne?

Background Noise
18th Sep 2008, 22:30
Correct with Reims. Variably mil/civ or just military. Over to BAMRA.

BAMRA wake up
19th Sep 2008, 08:04
Thanks BN, I'm off to work so open house.

India Four Two
19th Sep 2008, 09:21
Where's this?

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WA19Sept.jpg

( I couldn't find a higher resolution than this.)

evansb
19th Sep 2008, 23:09
Is it an old RAF base ?

sidtheesexist
20th Sep 2008, 01:05
I would guess not in the UK because of the hangar types and v long straight road/field layout. My guess would be US/Canadian but then what do I know...........looks prairie flat to me............

India Four Two
20th Sep 2008, 02:43
...........looks prairie flat to me............Definitely flat, but what they grow in these fields, does not grow on the prairies.

Not an RAF base and not in North America.

The Real Slim Shady
20th Sep 2008, 13:11
Is it a very old picture of Hanoi Noi Bai?

India Four Two
20th Sep 2008, 17:13
Slim,

I can see why you might think that, but not Noi Bai

Roland Pulfrew
20th Sep 2008, 18:47
Early Kabul?

evansb
20th Sep 2008, 20:59
Kuala Lumpur ?

BAMRA wake up
21st Sep 2008, 09:11
Only a dedicated aviation historian is likely to get this one. I can't even work out what's what! Are those two roads at right angles and a grass strip to the left? The bigger 'hangars' appear to face that way.
If so, maybe an early biplane factory - Japan, China, with rice grown nearby?

India Four Two
21st Sep 2008, 16:01
Not EK or KL, not Japan or China.

with rice grown nearby? Yes.


C in C's inspection 1916:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WA21Sep.jpg

Can someone ID the biplanes?

Are those two roads at right angles and a grass strip to the left? BAMRA, I think you are correct about the roads and the area to the left is the landing area. This airfield is still in use - Military and Civil.

BAMRA wake up
21st Sep 2008, 16:13
Hmmm....

India perhaps?
I can't work out whether that's coast, sea and horizon at the top right, or just a faded area on the print!

India Four Two
21st Sep 2008, 16:29
Nothing to do with the Raj, although this air force did participate in WWI.

Correction: the date of the inspection is post-1919, since that was the service date of the biplanes, which are Breguet 14s.

The airfield is well inland - no sea or lakes nearby.

The Real Slim Shady
21st Sep 2008, 19:53
OK if the aircraft are French it is likely to be somewhere in Vietnam.

Da Nang?

norwich
21st Sep 2008, 20:19
I am out on that limb with WAINODEN, POLAND ???? Keith.

evansb
21st Sep 2008, 21:23
For all the rice in Poland, I think the photograph is of the old Don Muang airfield in Bangkok, (Krung Thep), Thailand, (Siam).

aviate1138
21st Sep 2008, 21:40
Russia, Engels near Stalingrad........

Warmtoast
21st Sep 2008, 22:19
Kiev (Ukraine)?

sycamore
21st Sep 2008, 22:26
Googling Don Muang shows similarities in canals on NW-SE sides of airfield,although the grass appears to have been cut !!

India Four Two
22nd Sep 2008, 00:37
I've just woken up to a plethora of possible answers that I never would have thought of. This was a much more difficult challenge than I expected it to be.

And the winner is ..... (as usual) ----- evansb :ok:

RTAF Don Muang, NE of Bangkok. It used to be BKK International, until Suvanabuhmi opened. Some more information and old pictures here:
The Royal Thai Air Force [eng] : : History of The Royal Thai Air Force (http://www.rtaf.mi.th/eng/history/index.html)

and some more info here, including a nice picture of a Breguet 14, which I hadn't heard of before:
thaishortstories.***/2007/12/briefer-history-of-royal-thai-airforce.html (http://thaishortstories.***/2007/12/briefer-history-of-royal-thai-airforce.html)
For ***, substitute b l o g s p o t . c o m (with no spaces).

I have to make time to go to the museum, next time I'm in Bangkok :)

As Sycamore points out, the distinctive road and canal pattern is very obvious on Google Earth:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/donmuangGE.jpg

It is interesting that this (NW) side of the airport is now the civil side. The present day military section is out of frame to the left on the other side of 21L.

My next clue was going to be about QANTAS and golf courses:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/VH-OJH.jpg

evansb
22nd Sep 2008, 02:07
I'll have to spend some time finding an aerodrome photo as challenging as Simon's last. In the mean time, this one will have to do:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080921.jpg

India Four Two
22nd Sep 2008, 02:53
bri,

Somewhere in the US, but otherwise no clue. I hope there are some hangar doors at the far end, otherwise there will be a severe production line bottle-neck!

I've just noticed one of my URLs, which worked properly in preview, has been censored. So for those of you who want to see the Breguet 14, here is a DIY version:
thaishortstories.***/2007/12/briefer-history-of-royal-thai-airforce.html (http://thaishortstories.***/2007/12/briefer-history-of-royal-thai-airforce.html)

For ***, substitute b l o g s p o t . c o m (with no spaces).

Note, this blog is perfectly work safe - it's not about THOSE kind of Thai short stories.;)

Cubs2jets
22nd Sep 2008, 03:06
Cleveland Hopkins (KCLE)

or

Detroit (Yipsilanti) Willow Run (KYIP)

C2j

Dan Winterland
22nd Sep 2008, 03:59
Ref Don Mueng. There can't be many airfields with a golf course between the runways. I once had a golf ball bounce in front of the aircraft while taxying! Still no excuse to go and park on it though!

India Four Two
22nd Sep 2008, 04:39
Still no excuse to go and park on it though!

Yes, no excuse! A lot of good SOP and CRM lessons in that accident.

And as an SLF going in to Don Muang for the first time on 21L, those ponds in the undershoot gave me the distinct impression we were going for a swim :eek:

evansb
22nd Sep 2008, 04:50
C2j is correct:ok: The Ford plant at Detroit/Willow Run (Yipsilanti, Michigan), was once the largest building in the world. Ford produced the B-24 Liberator bomber at Willow Run. You have control.

Cubs2jets
22nd Sep 2008, 13:07
I'm sorry guys, I can resist anything but temptation, and these pics are just too tempting! I'm not prepared with a pic.

OPEN HOUSE!

C2j

Duckbutt
22nd Sep 2008, 15:39
Is this enough to go on?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/Puzz20a.jpg

Hyperborean
22nd Sep 2008, 16:05
The runway layout suggests Fleet Air Arm.

Duckbutt
22nd Sep 2008, 16:30
Not Fleet Air Arm. Airfield was originally civilian but for a long time has been partly used by the military.

Duckbutt
23rd Sep 2008, 11:29
This was taken during the construction of the first terminal:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/Puzz20b.jpg

seacue
24th Sep 2008, 03:09
Is that a Koolhoven F.K. 50 in the background?

Max Tow
24th Sep 2008, 04:47
Looks more like another Short Scion which used to live in Acebell's Redhill hangar , so I'd say Palestine Airlines and maybe a bit of sly rearrangement of the reggies?

Duckbutt
24th Sep 2008, 08:12
Good aircraft recognition Max! Sly, moi?

LFT
24th Sep 2008, 08:58
How about Brussels Zaventem ?

KeMac
24th Sep 2008, 09:51
It reminds me of Karachi but I don't think it is.It seems to have a British India or Middle East look about it.

Duckbutt
24th Sep 2008, 10:04
Not in Europe, keep going KeMac.

grizzled
24th Sep 2008, 11:06
Would I be getting warm by thinking French Indochina?

Grizz

Duckbutt
24th Sep 2008, 15:40
Lydda it is Jenkins, now Lod airport. You have it.

Mention in despatches to Max Tow for identifying the Short Scion and airline despite my subtle (?) alterations.:D

con-pilot
24th Sep 2008, 16:52
If I may, next aerodrome.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/con-pilot/scan0001.jpg

evansb
25th Sep 2008, 15:07
Is it Oklahoma City Airport ?

con-pilot
25th Sep 2008, 17:22
Is it Oklahoma City Airport ?

I figured that my location would be a dead give away. Will Rogers World Airport, KOKC. Here is another old picture taken at the same time.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/con-pilot/scan0001-1.jpg

The two hangars in the picture are still there and being used. In fact I was based in both of them at different times.

Both pictures are hanging on a wall in my office. The first picture was damaged by water when a tornado brushed the hangar and removed a section of the roof.

In the front hangar a Jet Commander I was flying actually fell through the hangar floor, well the left main gear did. Fortunately it stopped before the wing or fuselage contacted the floor. It took us a while to get it out of the hole. After that happened the floors in both hangars were replaced.

JW411
25th Sep 2008, 17:50
It is hangar dear boy, not hanger.

A hangar is what you put aircraft in and a hanger is what you put coats on.

evansb
25th Sep 2008, 18:04
Thanks con-pilot, Good photos of OKC!. Here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080925.jpg

con-pilot
25th Sep 2008, 18:19
It is hangar dear boy, not hanger.

Oops, quite correct, was in a hurry, all fixed now. :O


(I severely chastised my left hand. ;))

con-pilot
25th Sep 2008, 18:30
Thank you Evan.

At first I though your posted airport was Dade-Collier KTNT, but realized that it is the Space Shuttle Landing Area at Cape Canaveral/Kennedy Space Center, I think.

The Real Slim Shady
25th Sep 2008, 18:40
Is it Jacksonville?

evansb
25th Sep 2008, 20:02
con-pilot is correct. It is the Kennedy Space Center, Florida, Space Shuttle landing strip. You have control.

con-pilot
25th Sep 2008, 21:49
Thank you, open house time.

CathayBrat
26th Sep 2008, 08:06
If I may
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/adsbarnes/P1000169.jpg
Cheers

KeMac
26th Sep 2008, 09:46
A difficult one, but I will try Goma

CathayBrat
26th Sep 2008, 19:14
Not sure if you can get one of these into Goma, with the lava and all.
Guess its not a good photo, was taken from my islander taxiing past. Lots of goons around so had to be subtle, they from 'da shoot first' area of the world.
Try this, same place.
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/adsbarnes/P1000165.jpg
ps about a dozen of these An-2's in various states lying around

norwich
26th Sep 2008, 19:24
It seems too easy ! I'll try Kinshasa, N'djili. Keith.

KeMac
27th Sep 2008, 08:04
It is a good year or two since I was in Kinshasa but I seem to remember the land being very flat around both airports. It looks like somewhere over in the east, I will have a stab at Bukavu-Kavumu.

CathayBrat
27th Sep 2008, 11:09
Good guess:D
you have control

KeMac
27th Sep 2008, 13:23
Thanks Cathaybrat I have a picture but I have got to belt out - open house - if nobody comes in by the time I get back I will upload my pic

KeMac
27th Sep 2008, 17:53
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj189/keef_010/img002.jpg

BSD
27th Sep 2008, 18:56
Heathrow?

BSD.

KeMac
27th Sep 2008, 20:04
Not Heathrow

BSD
27th Sep 2008, 20:48
On scond thoughts, Shannon?

BSD.

KeMac
27th Sep 2008, 21:04
That's the one. I didn't think it would last long, the flag was a bit of a give away. The picture was taken by my dad when he was a First Officer with Aer Lingus.
Over to you BSD

BSD
27th Sep 2008, 21:22
It was indeed the Irish ticolour which set me to rethinking.

Try this:http://http://s374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/ndegemoja/?action=view&current=WA1-1.jpg

BSD
27th Sep 2008, 21:33
http://http://s374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/ndegemoja/?action=view&current=WA1-1.jpg

Second attempt. If this fails, I'll eclare it open house, retire to bed and rethink in the morning - it has been too long a day!

BSD.

norwich
27th Sep 2008, 21:55
As BSD's attempt failed again (keep trying), I will post this little one, sorry about the small size. Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/where13.jpg

con-pilot
28th Sep 2008, 01:38
I should know where that is, the Sabre 65 in the picture is one I flew for five years. At least I think it is, hard to tell from the picture, sure looks like the paint job.

Racking my brain. :ugh:

BSD
28th Sep 2008, 06:51
Early Sunday morning, and many thanks to Norwich for covering my failure to post.

I'll read yet again the instructions and try to figure out what I' doing wrong with photobucket.

Great post by the way Norwich, I haven't a clue.

BSD.

PaperTiger
29th Sep 2008, 20:47
Is that a Rapide peeking in from the right ? :confused:

norwich
30th Sep 2008, 06:49
Paper Tiger, Not a rapide, I think its a Boeing 737 ? although I have lost the original that this is clipped from ? Keith.

evansb
30th Sep 2008, 17:09
Is the airport in a country ending in 'stan' ?

norwich
30th Sep 2008, 17:51
Sorry evansb uncle 'stan' is not at home here ???

Trying to think of a cluette .... Think Central, think westish, think large continent ?????

Keith.

Reimers
3rd Oct 2008, 09:53
So, is this a new record for this challenge?
No guesses for three days, and the picture has been up for almost a week!

KeMac
3rd Oct 2008, 10:13
It has me completely stumped. I first thought Asia - Cambodia or Philippines -somewhere like that but then I thought maybe Central America - other than thought I do not have a clue.

BSD
3rd Oct 2008, 10:30
Stumped here too! Maybe Central Africa fits the bill. Looks irritatingly familiar as well.

How about Zaire, Kisangani?

BSD.

norwich
3rd Oct 2008, 14:57
BSD is getting very very warm !!! Just googled the venue and an almost identical photo is available 'out there' ..... Keith

merlinxx
3rd Oct 2008, 16:18
Lumbumbashi with a Yarpie Sabre & Dragon on the ramp?

Shoot no, might even be Luanda? Or even Swakopmund? Didn't Anglo American have a few Sabres?

Shoot I'm lost but have the picture in me data bank, sod it!

BAMRA wake up
3rd Oct 2008, 19:57
Kinshasa, Zaire.

norwich
3rd Oct 2008, 20:06
Well, it's coming up to 6 days and 1338 views ? very good answers, but none correct yet ? I have found the original photo, but not the owners name, who I would like to credit !
So below is the complete picture, will this help ???? Keith.

ps ... one person, who has posted within this, has mentioned recently that he has been there ?????

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/where13a.jpg

norwich
3rd Oct 2008, 20:17
BAMRA wake up, Sorry your post arrived whilst I was formulating my last post !

Yes it is Kinshasa !!! N'djili airport !!! My geography puts it in The Democratic Republic of the Congo ! But the names and places in Africa change far too often recently ?
You deserve one of these :D Looking forward to your next challenge !

Keith.

BAMRA wake up
3rd Oct 2008, 20:48
Keith, you are of course correct, 'Zaire' was used from 1971 to 1997.

Next challenge, UK/parochial in comparison to your last. Historic in the sense that it was part of our recent industrial history. Still useable in emergencies and a handy touch and go location. Should be familiar to some twotter jockeys from the 1970's!

http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq172/pprunequiz/quiz.jpg

twochai
3rd Oct 2008, 21:43
Flotta, Scapa Flow, in the Orkneys, if I'm not mistaken.

Had a great heave in the middle, if memory serves.

BAMRA wake up
3rd Oct 2008, 21:53
Got it in one twochai!

Built by Bechtel for Armand Hammer's Occidental Inc. back in the 70's.

Photo from:

Scotland Aerial Photos (http://www.alanmoar.flyer.co.uk/)

Over to you...

MReyn24050
3rd Oct 2008, 22:22
List updated today.
Mel

twochai
4th Oct 2008, 02:42
Thank you Mel. I hope all your work maintaining the lists does not go unrewarded or unrecognised!

Built by Bechtel for Armand Hammer's Occidental Inc. back in the 70's.


That is news to me - my recollection is that Flotta was not well built, in fact it was quite undulating when I went in there in 1977 or '78!

Unortunately I have nothing ready, so, OPEN HOUSE:

BSD
4th Oct 2008, 04:52
Try this:


http://http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/ndegemoja/Sunderland.jpghttp://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/ndegemoja/Sunderland-1.jpg

BEagle
4th Oct 2008, 09:53
Lauthala Bay, Fiji?

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/Internet/zxzxz.jpg



.

BSD
4th Oct 2008, 10:42
BEagle,

Sorry, Not Fiji.

BSD.

Tempsford
4th Oct 2008, 11:07
Trincomalee Sri Lanka

BSD
4th Oct 2008, 11:42
Tempsford,

Absolutely right! I think at the time it was called Koggalah lake by the RAF.

How on earth did you get it so quickly? I'm dead impressed.

BSD.

BEagle
4th Oct 2008, 13:35
Actually my first guess was Trincomalee, but I thought that the trees weren't quite correct!

evansb
4th Oct 2008, 15:00
This makes three times that Trincomalee has been posted.

Tempsford
4th Oct 2008, 16:58
Open house folks

twas pure fluke BSD, looks like BEagle was the first to get it anyway.

Temps

BSD
4th Oct 2008, 17:16
I hadn't realised Trincomalee was Koggalah lake. In fact, the photo is also described by another name as well.

Here is another Sunderland, different location, still in use today, but I doubt whether the seaplane base is still in use.

Not Ceylon/Sri Lanka.

BSD.

http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/ndegemoja/Sunderland4.jpg

Tempsford
4th Oct 2008, 17:29
RAF Seletar?

BSD
4th Oct 2008, 17:42
Tempie,

Good try. It isn't Seletar though. However, I like your thinking. This was a 205squadron Sunderland, which spent a lot of time after the Japanese surrender flying between Seletar and Sri Lanka/India repatriating British POWs from Changi, when the MOs deemed them well enough to travel. They continued home from India by ship.

Now back to this photo: the airfield is on the list, so if seeing it again offends anyone, then I apologise. At the time this Sunderland was photographed however, the present runway did not exist.

Off to work,

BSD.

Tempsford
4th Oct 2008, 18:13
RAF Car Nicobar

The Real Slim Shady
4th Oct 2008, 18:32
Gan? As I don't know how long the runway has been there.

BSD
4th Oct 2008, 20:13
Alas neither Car Nicobar nor Gan.

BSD.

Krakatoa
4th Oct 2008, 22:27
If the photograph is in fact a Sunderland on a ferry trip with POW's
to Sri Lanka it could be a refuelling stop at Pennang.
Trinco and Koggala are two different locations

Krakatoa
4th Oct 2008, 22:53
Hold the front page....just found the photograph on page 117 in Ken Delve's book, Short Sunderland.
He tells us it is a Mk. 5 of 205 Squadron at Koggala 1945, if correct, open house

BSD
5th Oct 2008, 05:18
Just back from a night flight.

looks like I've cocqued this up if Trinco and Koggala are not the same. Whoops!

The first picture was Koggala, so I may have inadvertently posted a new one!

The second is not Penang. One of the earlier suggestions from Real Slim is very close.

Off to bed, will check later.

BSD.

BSD
5th Oct 2008, 11:26
A thousand apologoes to you all.

It is in fact Diego Garcia, which I had not realised was originally RAF Gan.

Thus, the Real Slim Shady cracked it a while ago.

Sorry about that. Should have paid more attention in Geography/politics/current affairs etc.

BSD.

BEagle
5th Oct 2008, 11:44
It is in fact Diego Garcia, which I had not realised was originally RAF Gan.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/Internet/zxzxz.jpg
Err, no. Diego Garcia is about 400 nm south of Gan!

Anyway, whilst you wait for whoever got it right, here's a quickie to keep you going:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/Internet/af-1.jpg

The Real Slim Shady
5th Oct 2008, 14:37
Might be Leeming, looking at the ATC tower from the end of 34.

sycamore
5th Oct 2008, 15:19
Strawberry ?

Warmtoast
6th Oct 2008, 09:52
This makes three times that Trincomalee has been posted

FWIW and from someone who served there, the airfield referred to as Trincomalee is in fact at China Bay, about five miles across the bay from the Royal Navy base at Trincomalee.

The airfield and flying boat alighting area was originally called RAF China Bay and in 1939 was the home to 273 Sqn equipped with rather ancient Vildebeests. Control of RAF China Bay was handed over to the Royal Navy in 1944 when it assumed the title "RNAS Trincomalee". In 1947 the airfield was handed back to the RAF and reverted once again to it's original title of "RAF China Bay".

The RAF departed China Bay in late 1957 when the airfield was handed over to the Sri Lanka airforce. Strictly speaking photos appearing in Which Aerodrome under the heading "Trincomalee" should be of 1944 - 47 vintage, any others will be of RAF China Bay (and I have many).

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/ChinaBay-1.jpg

Warmtoast
6th Oct 2008, 16:09
Regarding BSD's second Sunderland photo I'd have gone for Gan, because I took a similar photo of a Sunderland at Gan in 1958 which has certain similarities. See below.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/SunderlandP-Copy.jpg


But given as it's not Gan I'll guess BSD's second Sunderland was at Male, capital of the Maldives.

JW411
6th Oct 2008, 16:49
What a bl**dy shambles! Trinco is not China Bay and I seem to remember that Koggala was on the west coast south of Colombo.

As for Gan being Diego Garcia; I am very glad that you were not my navigator when heading for Gan!

Why don't we have an "identify the palm trees behind the Sunderland" competition?

Tempsford
6th Oct 2008, 18:05
I'll go for Royal Palms then:E

BEagle
7th Oct 2008, 02:04
Neither was the answer to mine Shawbury, Leeming nor Inverness!

BSD
7th Oct 2008, 06:43
Morning all,

Just back from another night in the sky, and still smarting with embarassment over the huge cocque-up I've made of this.

Shame, as I was thrilled with finding the two photos.

Warmtoast's photo of "P Peter" is a cracker!

Just to confirm, the first picture was Koggala, the second Diego Garcia, and yes it is a darned good job I was never a navigator.

Apologies to one and all,

BSD.

chevvron
7th Oct 2008, 07:19
BEagle: is the airfield in England or Wales?(I'm thinking welsh border)

norwich
7th Oct 2008, 18:21
Is there a quiet corner like this at Harwarden ? Keith.

BEagle
7th Oct 2008, 20:46
Neither Welsh borders nor Whore-den.......

sycamore
7th Oct 2008, 20:54
Aha,Merryfield ?

S'land
7th Oct 2008, 21:26
That photograph of "P" Peter is fantastic Warmtoast and one that I would like to use on my desktop.

Warmtoast
7th Oct 2008, 21:39
S'land

Check your PM's

BEagle
8th Oct 2008, 03:16
sycamore, yes, it is indeed Merryfield!

Dec 31st 2007!

RETDPI
8th Oct 2008, 07:03
I think that may well have been derived from the earlier collateral you presented some weeks ago Beags :cool:

sycamore
8th Oct 2008, 10:04
Beags favourite haunt `when `e were a lad` ? Open House ...

tprop
8th Oct 2008, 10:50
Try this:
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j281/AGardiner/Picture.jpg

The Real Slim Shady
9th Oct 2008, 10:47
Easy peasy.

That would be RAF Beyond the Back of Beyond.

A popular hangout for those denied the pleasure of MPA.

Somewhere in Malaysia?

BTW the Tprop when my turn comes you will pay for this ;);)

tprop
9th Oct 2008, 11:06
hint #1: There is a P38 in the water just off the end of the runway.

No, not Malaysia.

nacluv
9th Oct 2008, 14:03
Seghe Field, Solomon Islands.

tprop
9th Oct 2008, 14:53
Spot on! I thought this one would be hard.
Over to you.

nacluv
9th Oct 2008, 15:35
Hi tprop - it was hard! I was lucky. When I saw the photo and 'not Malaysia' I took a wild guess at Guadalcanal/Solomon Islands. Then it was only a matter of time on Google. This photo did it...

http://home.st.net.au/%7Edunn/airfields/si54.jpg

I'll have to dig out a photo and get back to you. Bear with me a while...

tprop
9th Oct 2008, 15:58
Here's a piece of Seghe trivia: When Air Sols doesn't have a flight - which is most of the time - the field doubles a soccer/football pitch.

nacluv
9th Oct 2008, 16:57
Blimey - I wouldn't fancy playing midfield much - a lot of ground to cover! :eek:

OK - on to the next challenge. Sorry it is a bit home-made...

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk252/kwilson1965/nacluv/airfield1.jpg

chevvron
9th Oct 2008, 17:39
What the airfield is home made?? Looks like a place in Holland I saw once from an airliner; never did identify it.

nacluv
9th Oct 2008, 18:55
Ho ho! Yes, we have a big back garden!! What I meant was it is not a camera photograph. It's a Google Earth 'still' - as you can probably tell.

And no - not Holland. I will hazard a guess that you were possibly looking at Deelen?

nacluv
11th Oct 2008, 15:32
Time for a clue?

It is east of Holland. Northern hemisphere... I thought the hard-standing patterns might give away the nationality.

The Real Slim Shady
11th Oct 2008, 15:39
I thought either Polish, who have a plethora of single strip airfields or East German, again influenced by their Moscovite association.

nacluv
11th Oct 2008, 15:54
You're heading in the right direction...

sidtheesexist
13th Oct 2008, 08:09
This is one of my favourite threads - been away for 2wks - coming back to catch up on recent postings has had me in absolute stitches!!! :O ;) I havn't laughed so much in ages - thank you chaps!! The exasperated post of JW411 was priceless - 'shambles'!!!! It reads like a comedy script - hope we have another soon......................;) :ok: Anyway, back to the mysterious eastern european military drome..................

BEagle
13th Oct 2008, 08:24
Don't tell Ryanair about this thread or they'll probably start flights to airports even more obscure than Hahn-Mosel once the location of the old East European highway strips is revealed....:eek: