Which Aerodrome?

[AfgAirOps]

Not Dar Es Salaam, sorry.

Merlinxx, you might like to have a look at Kenya and Uganda 1952 to 1962 (http://www.mccrow.org.uk/EastAfrica/Index%20East%20Africa.htm) (where, I must admit, I erm, 'borrowed' the picture of Embakasi :uhoh:

Rgds
AAO

[twochai]

The old terminal at Tamanrasset??

[Chris Scott]

Tamanrasset? It certainly looks high enough and dry enough (in my imagination: never had to go there, thank goodness, but always called them en-passant just in case...).

Since it wont waste any extra space (why is that?): we didn't get a date on the Embakasi pic, merlinxx, so it could have been 1956/7, and BUA didn't start till 1960. Predecessors Airwork and Hunting Clan would have been working it regularly, though. My memories of its early days are of transit stops as a boy pax; then later (in the 70s) as BCAL crew. Yes, used to stay at the Norfolk and occasionally eat/drink with some hard cases at the Thorn Tree and Long Bar, and rarely to the Pan Afric (the white-gloved inhabited it). Tusker and White Cap and Laterite ring a Bells. Never heard of Suzie's or the Sombrero, though... "Strange Folks": do you mean night-fighters?

Does anyone remember the plague of stray cats at the old Eastleigh in 1955? Fed by the catering manager, apparently.

[KeMac]

Thats an interesting link on Kenya and Uganda AfgAirOps. I remember a 27 hour delay to our flight (EAA VC 10) from Embakasi once.

[AfgAirOps]

The old terminal at Tamanrasset??

Sorry, nope.

Not too far away though :ok: (+/- 1,000nm)

Rgds
AAO

[Chris Scott]

Ghardaia?

[In the unlikely event this guess is correct, it'll have to be Open House.]

[AfgAirOps]

Ghardaia?

Sorry, nope....

The city this airport serves is on both rail & river links.

Rgds
AAO

[Warmtoast]

Bamako, Mali?

[Captain Airclues]

Marrakesh (Menara International)?

[AfgAirOps]

Sorry, not Marrakesh nor Bamako.

Rgds
AAO

[Captain Airclues]

Running out of ideas. Have found somewhere with air, rail and river links which is within 1000 miles of Tamanrasset but not sure about the ex-capital bit;

Bobo-Dioulasso?

Dave

[AfgAirOps]

Sorry, nope.

A give-away, non-aviation clue..... it could belong to Rene from Allo-Allo.

Rgds
AAO

[chevvron]

I never heard of an airfield called 'The picture of the fallen Madonna with the big boobies by Van Clump'.

[Chris Scott]

I also give up, AAO.

Just can't find any city that matches all your criteria, as I understand them.

:{

[AfgAirOps]

Just before binning this one & calling open-house a roundup of clues etc;

+/- (i.e. about) 1,000nm from Tamanrasset (ok.. 1,080nm, according to Great Circle Mapper (http://gc.kls2.com/))
The city it serves is on rail & river
It could belong to Rene from Allo Allo (or rather the person who played him)
It's a former capital (of a colony which no longer exists) (also, sorry if this has confused anyone, current 'capital' of an 'administrative region'). Think Continent Foncé

Rgds
AAO

[Captain Airclues]

Kayes, in Western Mali?

[AfgAirOps]

Kayes, in Western Mali?

Phew! Over to you.....

Rgds
AAO

[Captain Airclues]

Excellent challenge. I don't think that we'd have got it without the clues. Probably not many of us been there!

OPEN HOUSE

[Warmtoast]

Where is this?

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/WalkingontheWater2.jpg

[AfgAirOps]

Barrow-on-Humber?

Rgds
AAO

[Warmtoast]

Not Barrow-on-Humber

[Duckbutt]

How about Eastleigh?

[AfgAirOps]

Cowes, I.O.W?

Rgds
AAO

[Phileas Fogg]

Weston-Super-Mare?

[Background Noise]

Am i missing something here - how would those things allow it to land on water? Are we looking at ice - or just a low approach?

[aviate1138]

Looks like Frensham Ponds?

[Warmtoast]

Not Easteigh or Weston-Super-Mare. Although there is a Weston -Super-Mare connection that I'll reveal later.

Neither is it Cowes, but AAO is warm.

Am i missing something here - how would those things allow it to land on water? Are we looking at ice - or just a low approach?

Take-off actually.

...and its not Frensham Ponds either.

[Phileas Fogg]

Yes, it crashed in W-S-M

I'll try Calshot then.

[AfgAirOps]

Neither is it Cowes, but AAO is warm.

Close enough for it to be East Cowes instead?

Rgds
AAO

[Warmtoast]

Not Calshot

Not East Cowes, but very near - around 5½ miles distant

[evansb]

It is a waterdrome/aerodrome we are looking for, is it not?

[Crusher1]

Water looks very calm - maybe Hamble?

[Chris Scott]

Looks like a beach to me. Could it be Ryde?

[twochai]

Good question, Bri!

[Warmtoast]

Looks like a beach to me. Could it be Ryde

Ryde it is. So over to you Chris.

It shows Auster J/5g Autocar G-AMZV fitted with Saunders-Roe hydro-skis taking off from mud-flats at Ryde (Isle of Wight). Geoff Tyson was the pilot.
Saunders-Roe's works at East Cowes were five miles along the north coast of the Isle of Wight and I can only assume the nearest suitable mud-flats for tests were at Ryde, which is why the tests were done there.

The National Archives at Kew has a copy of an Auster Aircraft Company file held in the Leicestershire, Leicester and Rutland Record Office describing the trials of the hydro-skis and similar unusual undercarriage attachments made by Saunders-Roe as fitted to Auster aircraft.

A report quotes: "On water, buoyancy is achieved by lift from the pressure on the skis when planing. This is achieved at “an acceptable taxiing speed,” and a distance of only three to four times the Auster’s own length is all that is needed to reach a safe enough speed for entering the water. Successful take-offs have been made starting from sand, shingle and short concrete slipways—the remainder of the run to become airborne being on the surface of the water. During early low-speed trials on water, buoyancy-tanks were fitted under the wing-tips as a precautionary measure, but were soon removed."

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/WalkingontheWater.jpg


Sadly Auster Autocar G-AMZV came to a tragic end in August 1966 as this contemporary press cutting shows:


http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/AusterAutocarG-AMVZCrashatWestonSup.jpg

[Chris Scott]

"... —the remainder of the run to become airborne being on the surface of the water. During early low-speed trials on water, buoyancy-tanks were fitted under the wing-tips as a precautionary measure, but were soon removed."

Sounds distinctly dodgy to me. Engine failure on take-off, at low speed, would lead to the loss of the aeroplane? Or was it a hydroplane? [Never did understand why the term "landplane" was abandoned, yet "seaplane" retained. ;) ]

Fascinating, Warmtoast, thank you. In the absence of the necessary wherewithal:

OPEN HOUSE.

[AfgAirOps]

Warmtoast, thanks for an interesting challenge!!

OPEN HOUSE

Mind if I throw in an easy one to keep things moving;

http://i38.tinypic.com/se6dte.jpg

[evansb]

Oh My God! An aerodrome! I thought this was becoming 'What Fen/Bog/Marsh/Tidal Flat?' Given the half-moon, I do hope the earlier tidal thread drift has ebbed.

[larssnowpharter]

Not Khormaksar perchance?

[Warmtoast]

evansb

Oh My God! An aerodrome! I thought this was becoming 'What Fen/Bog/Marsh/Tidal Flat?

As the term Aerodrome has largely been replaced by Airfield or Airport I looked up the definition Airfield in my dictionary. It states "An area of land where aircraft (aeroplanes?) take off and land, are maintained etc".

Mud flats at Ryde fall in to that category I reckon.

In the absence of describing it possibly as an "Alighting Area" sorry if I upset the purists!

And what is the term to describe getting airborne from an alighting area?

[Mr_Grubby]

Muharraq, Bahrain ??

Clint.

[Tempsford]

Nice one warm toast. There is an element of 'purism' amongst some on here. Not necessary at all though as some of the 'aerodrome; photographs have either been very obscure locations or UK WW2 three runway airfields of which there were hundreds which in a lot of ways looked very similar.
This thread is a bit of fun and to my knowledge has not been infiltrated by the 'know it all' element, so chill out those that need to and lets continue with the great photos.
Oh, and by the way, I have never managed to be first to identify any airfield photo on this thread, but in many instances, when the answer was made known have gone 'of course that's where it is!'.

Great thread folks let's not spoil it please.

[newswatcher]

I'll second Mr Grubby, got to be Bahrain!:ok:

[AfgAirOps]

Mr Grubby has the floor!

Rgds
AAO

[Tempsford]

Bahrain, Of Course! We used to park in front of this building!

[Mr_Grubby]

I spent 2 years there back in '66 - '68.

Happy days.

Open house gents as I have nothing to post.

Clint.

[Warmtoast]

A real aerodrome, airfield, airport this time!

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/ForWhichAirfield2-1.jpg

[Tempsford]

Munich perhaps?

[Guest 112233]

Is It the old Munich Reim Airport. ? Nice Pic.

CAT III - Temps has quicker digits

[Warmtoast]

Neither Munich-Riem or Munich Franz Josef Strauss.

[G-ARZG]

Dusseldorf?

[KeMac]

Frankfurt - the original terminal?

[Warmtoast]

Not Dusseldorf and not Frankfurt

[AfgAirOps]

I cant help thinking the Lufthansa sign has been left there as a decoy.

Guessing at the aircraft being a rather famous one & to add a bit of stupidity to the thread I'm gonna go for Johannesburg.

Rgds
AAO

[evansb]

Vienna/Wien ?

[Max Tow]

From single wheel u/c, I'd guess this is second prototype G-ALZK which was op by BOAC on proving flights in 1951/2?
Also suspect "Luft" might be beginning of "Lufthavn" (i.e. Denmark somewhere?)

[Reimers]

I've noticed runway 29 is posted as the runway in use. So taking the clue "Lufthavn" provided by Max Tow I am guessing it might be Bromma/Sweden.
Wikipedia states they have a RWY 12/30 but the variation might have changed since Comets went there.

[Warmtoast]

Not Johannesburg.
Not Vienna/Wien
Not Bromma/Sweden

Max Tow
From single wheel u/c, I'd guess this is second prototype G-ALZK which was op by BOAC on proving flights in 1951/2?
Also suspect "Luft" might be beginning of "Lufthavn" (i.e. Denmark somewhere?)

Good thnking. It is Comet G-ALZK and the location is somewhere in Scandanavia.

[evansb]

Copenhagen-Roskilde Airport ?

[AfgAirOps]

Stavanger, Norway?

Rgds
AAO

[Warmtoast]

Stavanger, Norway?


Stavanger (Sola) airport as it was in early 1952 with Comet G-ALZK there for de-icing trials.
(For obvious reasons I erased "Stavanger" from the billboard alongside "Lufthavn").

Over to you AAO

[AfgAirOps]

Wouldn't have got there without Max Tow's deductions......

The next one;

http://i33.tinypic.com/2gvkods.jpg

Rgds
AAO

[Krakatoa]

Could it be Renfrew

[AfgAirOps]

:ok:

Over to you Krakatoa.

Rgds
AAO

[Krakatoa]

I will throw it open to "open house"
Shack has offered to instruct me how to post pics so you might hear from me.

[Duckbutt]

Where is this then:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/Puxx1.jpg

[Upyer RRR]

I'll start the ball rolling with a wild guess; Burtonwood?

[Duckbutt]

Not Burtonwood.

[AfgAirOps]

Guesses dont get any wilder than this one.....;

Vientienne?

Rgds
AAO

[Duckbutt]

Sorry, not Vientienne.

Some might, however argue that there COULD be a somewhat tenuous connection with 'my' picture.

[AfgAirOps]

Hmmmmm....

Would the connection be an operator that used Vientienne?

Rgds
AAO

[Duckbutt]

Who knows? :rolleyes:

[AfgAirOps]

Who knows? :rolleyes:

'They' do..... :}

I had the wrong conflict in mind.

So, how about Aguacate, Honduras?

Rgds
AAO

[Duckbutt]

Yes, that's it AAO, Aguacate Honduras, one of the bases used by Oliver North and his colleagues to supply the Contras in Nicaragua- I shouldn't have got cocky and given that clue so soon should I!

You have the floor.

[AfgAirOps]

I shouldn't have got cocky and given that clue so soon should I!

Probably not :}

How about;

http://i34.tinypic.com/14niey1.jpg

Rgds
AAO

[Moira]

Someone has spent quite some time 'playing' with photoshop! ;)

[AfgAirOps]

Someone has spent quite some time 'playing' with photoshop!

Almost..... Only got MS Paint on this PC but a certain amount of evidence (obviously the last 2 of the registration but also the aircrafts name & a sign with the airports name) has been removed.

It's somewhere that often features in the news.....

Rgds
AAO

[Code 100]

Is it Baghdad

[evansb]

I thought it might be Jask, Iran, but the trees lead me to believe it is Gaza, Palestine.

[AfgAirOps]

I thought it might be Jask, Iran, but the trees lead me to believe it is Gaza, Palestine.

It is indeed Gaza. :ok:

Un-doctored pic;

http://i34.tinypic.com/m8mtrb.jpg

Over to you evansb

Rgds
AAO

[evansb]

Thanks AAO. Here is the next mystery aerodrome:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080811.jpg

[evansb]

Time for a clue: Little trace of the base remains.

[John Hill]

What little road traffic I can see appears to be on the left side of the road so my hazard is that this field is in the UK!

[Tempsford]

Fowlmere perhaps?

[aviate1138]

20 quid it isn't Fowlmere but how about Stradishall?

[evansb]

Sorry, not Fowlmere nor Strandishall. The air base is not in Great Britain nor on the European continent.

[Speedpig]

Somewhere in India perhaps?
The accommodation at the top looks a bit Raj.

[Warmtoast]

With so many seaplanes and with launching ramps I suggest:

Ford Island, Pearl Harbor, Oahu, Hawaii

[evansb]

Sorry, not India. Not Ford Island, Hawaii.

[ICT_SLB]

Pensacola, Florida? I seem to remember a John Wayne movie set in the 30s & 40s where all flying from there was in floatplanes. They do look a lot like N3Ns.

[evansb]

Sorry not Florida. Not in North America.

[John Hill]

I think that truck making the left hand turn towards the Officer's Club is an early model Nissan, how about Japan?

[chevvron]

Eastchurch, Hawkinge or Andover?

[evansb]

Sorry, not in Japan. Not in Asia.

[S'land]

Rose Bay, NSW?

[evansb]

Sorry, not in Australia.

[twochai]

I don't see a reply to Chevvron's post:

Eastchurch, Hawkinge or Andover?

The layout certainly loooks to me like that of Andover, at least as it was circa 1970?

[Captain Airclues]

twochai

Already answered in post #4122

"The air base is not in Great Britain nor on the European Continent".

Dave

[Fishtailed]

Must be South Africa then?

[John Hill]

""The air base is not in Great Britain nor on the European Continent"".

Not on the European Continent, hmmmm, Ireland? Some island in Europe?

[evansb]

Not on the African continent.
Not in Asia.
Not in North America.
Not in Australia.
Not anywhere near Great Britain, Ireland, nor the continent of Europe.

[Captain Airclues]

South America?

[John Hill]

There is only one way, we must resort to the binary divide...:}

Is the first letter of the aerodrome name in 'A'..'M' or 'N'..'Z'?

[Russell Gulch]

I've been away (so to speak) due to lack of timely access to PPRuNe, despite upgrading to ISDN, etc. Going slow, or am I missing something?

Anyway, back to the topic:

May I suggest Malta?

[S'land]

Darrell's Island, Bermuda?

[asiaseen]

Kalafrana or Marsaxlokk?

[evansb]

South America? No, but close.
Not Malta.
Not Bermuda.

[Captain Airclues]

How about Central America then?

Dave

[S'land]

Coco Solo Naval Air Station, Panama?

[evansb]

S'land is correct:ok: NAS Coco Solo, Canal Zone, Panama. The birthplace of John McCain, the Republican Party nominee for the President of the United States.

You have control.

[S'land]

Thanks Bri. That was an interesting one to try and find.

I could not find this one on the list, so hope that it has not been done before.

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/Sundland/whatairport1.jpg?t=1218713848

[Fishtailed]

Woomera, Australia.

[S'land]

Not Woomera, sorry.

[India Four Two]

Muroc Lake Bombing and Gunnery Range (later known as Edwards AFB)?

[S'land]

Sorry India For Two, not in USA.

[S'land]

Time for a clue or two, methinks.

The photograph was taken in 1925, or thereabouts.
The hanger still exists today.

[D120A]

I think it is Qantas' original hangar at Longreach.

Open house if I am right.

[John Hill]

Hmmm, the roof line does not look symetrical which I think the Longreach hangar is. How about the QANTAS hangar at Cloncurry?

[S'land]

D120A has it. Longreach in 1925. Photograph taken from an article on the Australian "Airways Museum & Civil Aviation Historical Society" web site.

Longreach Aerodrome - 1925 (http://www.airwaysmuseum.com/LR%20aerodrome%201925.htm)

[D120A]

Open house it is then...

[evansb]

Here is the next aerodrome challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080817.jpg

[S'land]

Cleveland Hopkins?

[evansb]

Sorry S'land, not Cleveland, but it is in the United States.

[S'land]

OK. How about Mitchell Field, New York?

[evansb]

Sorry, not in New York State. The mystery airport is truly 'historic'.

[G-ARZG]

Meigs Field, Chicago ?

[Fishtailed]

Roosevelt field, Long Island.

[evansb]

Sorry, not Meigs Field, Chicago. Like Meigs Field, the mystery airport is no longer in operation.

[Fishtailed]

Harvard, Massachusetts.

[S'land]

Curtiss-Reynolds Airport, Illinois?

[evansb]

Sorry, not in Massachusetts, nor Illinois.

[Fishtailed]

Could it be one of the airfields in St Louis Missouri, Lambert field?

[CathayBrat]

Not sure of the name of the field, maybe patco, PA. Is that not the building they signed the decleration of independance in the background?

[evansb]

Sorry, not St. Louis, Missouri.

Good eye CathayBrat. The building is a replica of Independence Hall, but the airport is not located in Pennsylvania.

[Fishtailed]

Norkolk, Virginia.

[evansb]

Sorry, not Norfolk, Virginia. Here is a view of the same airport from the opposite direction:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080818A.jpg

[Fishtailed]

Dearborn, Michigan.

[evansb]

Fishtailed is correct. It is Ford Airport, Dearborn, Michigan. Then, as now, home to Henry Ford's historic Greenfield Village Museum. The photos portray the numerous aircraft taking part in one of several Ford Air Tours, which took place in the 1930s. You have control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/HenryFordsAirport.jpg

[Fishtailed]

Thanks evansb, that was a good 'un, wouldn't have got it without the clue from Cathay Brat, though.
Next one-


http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f280/fishtailed/ap03.jpg

[twochai]

Hmmm.... Hedge around the terminal airside, Piper trainers and an UTVA-75 parked on the ramp, hills WNW, probably two or three Mig-21's parked out o sight behind the treeline in the distance?

Looks like Ljubljana Airport, Slovenia, possibly 15 years ago??

[Fishtailed]

Sounded convincing, twochai, but not Ljubljana.

[larssnowpharter]

Guessing but the outline of the hill in the backgroung rings some bells. Could this just possibly be on a certain island somehwre in the Pacific?

[Fishtailed]

Not on an island in the Pacific.

[Moira]

Would that be a Portugese flag in the front right?
Like somewhere on the Azores? Pico?

[Fishtailed]

I hadn’t seen a flag, but would be surprised if it was Portugese.

[PaperTiger]

I hadn’t seen a flag, but would be surprised if it was Portugese.Bottom right, limp. Looks to be green at the hoist and red at the fly, can't see the middle stripe (if any).
Cameroon, Italy, Mali,Mexico,Senegal. Doesn't look African to me, so Italy or Mexico. Italy I think.

[Moira]

PaperTiger, I think you might be right ...
Torino Aeritalia airport?

[PaperTiger]

By Jove, I think she's got it:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Turin-Aeroclub/Piper-PA-28-140-Cherokee/0537576/M/ (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Turin-Aeroclub/Piper-PA-28-140-Cherokee/0537576/M/)

[Fishtailed]

Moira is correct, Torino.

[Moira]

Nice challenge Fishtailed!
Up to the next one (doesn't seem to be on the list yet):

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj271/AnnStevens/WAD080821.jpg?t=1219303128

[Warmtoast]

Umtali (Mutare), Southern Rhodesia (Zimbabwe)

[Moira]

Not Umtali/Mutare, sorry

[evansb]

Central African Airways Vickers Viking 1B, at Ndola, Zambia, (Northern Rhodesia) late 1940s?

[Moira]

Aah, you're way to good at this ...
Ndola airport it is!

[evansb]

Thanks Moira. Here is the next aerodrome challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080821.jpg

[aviate1138]

Might it be Bankstown?

[evansb]

Sorry, not Bankstown.

[S'land]

Toronto Downsview, the former DeHavilland Canada Factory, now the Toronto Aerospace Museum?

[evansb]

The DHC plant at Downsview, Ontario is correct.:ok: S'land has control.

[S'land]

Thank you Bri. It is surprising how little the actual building has changed over the years (from above that is).

Here is the next one:
http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/Sundland/WA2.jpg?t=1219353641

[chevvron]

I've done the 1/4 mile in about 14 seconds in a 250cc kart on that NE/SW runway; it's Podington aka Santa Pod Raceway

[S'land]

Spot on Chevvron, Poddington it is. You have control.

[chevvron]

Single 'd' in Podington (went to Santa Pod many times as spectator, crewman and competitor) and Open House!!!
Incidentally the hangar on the NW corner was a Home Office Buffer Depot for many years, but I think it's been emptied of foodstuff now.
Correction-just looked on Flashearth and the hangar has gone!!

[Duckbutt]

Where is this?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/Puxx22.jpg

[con-pilot]

Lajes, Azores Islands?

[Duckbutt]

Not Lajes, sorry.

[BAMRA wake up]

That rock + the vegetation looks Scandinavian and it looks like the old 'SAS' letters logo at the top of those stairs (guessing a bit), the white estate car looks like a late 50s early 60s Volvo, so I'd say provincial Sweden, or Norway.

[Duckbutt]

the white estate car looks like a late 50s early 60s Volvo

Not as much as it did before I fiddled around with its outline on Photoshop! I still don't think it NOW looks anything like a Volvo.

Anyway, keep going BAMRA.........

[chevvron]

I was tempted to say Montserrat, but there's no volcano. (Get coat)

[Duckbutt]

Perhaps I should have said "your logic is sound, keep going BAMRA........."

Perversely, it might be argued he is much warmer than you, Chevvron.

[AfgAirOps]

Longyearbyen?

Rgds
AAO

[BAMRA wake up]

Hmm yes Duckbutt, I'm in guessing territory now, but there's a rather Scandinavian looking house in the distance on the left - maroon roof and a dormer window. The vegetation doesn't look 'inland' (big conifers) so maybe a coastal location. I can't think of a terminal with a big ridge of rock so close so maybe the airport has changed.
Karmoy/Haugesund Norway?

[Duckbutt]

Not Longyearbyen or Karmoy.

I hadn't even noticed the house, BAMRA! Some more sound logic in your post though.

[Background Noise]

Kristiansand?

[Duckbutt]

Not Kristiansand

[Duckbutt]

This is a mid 70's photo:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/puxx22b.jpg

[Moira]

Iceland has volcanoes but I can't think of an airport that could look like this.
Not even sure if that is volcanic rock in the background or not ...

[Duckbutt]

Not Iceland Moira, see BAMRA's post 4203

[Flap40]

How about Gotherburg Torslanda?

[Duckbutt]

That's the one Flap40, Gothenburg's old airport at Torslanda.

Over to you.

[Flap40]

Thanks. I've just noticed that that house, the terminal and the second tower can still be seen on Flashearth.

The next challenge.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/jodel_bucket/crash.jpg

[Duckbutt]

Flap40, have you looked at your pm's?

[BAMRA wake up]

Well played Flap40 on Duckbutt's challenge!

Flap40's alternative challenge: Portsmouth?

[Flap40]

SNAFU on my part!

Duck's just pointed out that we have already had this one so I have posted an alternative view of the same airfield which will not last long.

[Krakatoa]

Skyways 748 landing on a wet grass airfield in the south of England.
I seem to remember another one followed a short time later. Portsmouth ?

[Warmtoast]

Agree its Portsmouth on 15th August 1967. Which turned out to be a bad day for Channel Airways as two of their 748's crashed at Portsmouth on the same day!

G-ATEK which overrun and hit an earth embankment at 1148 hrs followed one and a half hours later by G-ATEH, inbound from the Channel Islands, which also overran and crashed through the northern perimeter fence at 1334 hrs as shown in Flap40's photo.

[Krakatoa]

Apology to Skyways. Open house.

[Flap40]

Just to confirm it is Portsmouth.

The accident report can be found at Air Accidents Investigation Branch: 1/1971 G-ATEK and G-ATEH (http://www.aaib.dft.gov.uk/sites/aaib/publications/formal_reports/1_1971__g_atek_and_g_ateh.cfm)

[Warmtoast]

As its Open House - Where is this?

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/Where2.jpg

[Upyer RRR]

It does have a look of Strubby.

[MReyn24050]

I have updated the list of aerodrome challenges published to date. See the What Cockpit,Which Aerodrome and What Silhouette Sticky.
Mel

[Warmtoast]

Not Strubby

[chevvron]

How about Wittering?

[AfgAirOps]

RAF Odiham?

Rgds
AAO

[Warmtoast]

Not Wittering and not Odiham.

Clue - but there is a link to Odiham.

[evansb]

RAF Scampton ?

[AfgAirOps]

Dont suppose the link would be an event would it?

(as opposed to an aircraft / crew / squadron etc)

Rgds
AAO

[AfgAirOps]

Ah, evansb has beaten me to my next guess so I'm gonna throw in;

RAF Cottesmore?

Rgds
AAO

[Warmtoast]

evansb has it.

Scampton it is in 1953 with 27 Sqn showing off their brand new Canberras.

...and the link with Odiham is that 27 Sqn is currently based at Odiham - with Chinooks.


It's all yours evansb

[Duckbutt]

I'm intrigued, is there a story behind the musical notes painted on the noses of those Canberras?

[PPRuNe Radar]

I think they are markings for a fire extinguisher and fire axe perhaps ?

Here's a clearer example

Canberra T4 (http://www.airshows.co.uk/content/images/T4retirementspecial/016.jpg)

[Duckbutt]

Thanks for replying but I was referring to the what appears to be three quavers (?) painted on the very tip of the nose between the squadron crest and the bomb aimer's window.

[evansb]

Thanks Warmtoast. 21 Sqd. Scampton Canberras had a pair of crossed keys on the nose, which later migrated to the tip-tanks. 10 Sqd. had red "Speedbirds" on the nose. 18 Sqd. had blue "Speedbirds" on the nose. 27 Sqd. had a red cheat line the full length of the fuselage, no indication what they had on the nose.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/21sqncanberra2.gif

[evansb]

Here is the next 'Which Aerodrome?':
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080824.jpg

[chevvron]

Looks like Ayers Rock to me.

[PPRuNe Radar]

Nice picture.

Looks like an airfield beside Ayers Rock, although not the current one I expect !!

Taputji, established by Eddie Connellan, judging by the aircraft ;)

[evansb]

It is the old Uluru (Ayers Rock) Airport.
Still visible on Google Earth.
Looks like chevron was under the wire a minute ahead of PPRune Radar.
chevron has control.

[chevvron]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOpen house!

[Warmtoast]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOpen house!

Thanks Chevvron

Vampires obviously - but where?

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/Vampires-butwhere.jpg

[PaperTiger]

72 Squadron, Linton-on-Ouse ?

[Warmtoast]

Not Middleton Saint George and not 72 Squadron, Linton-on-Ouse

[chevvron]

Nah look at those masts; it's gotta be North Weald.
NB Something wrong with the clock; I posted at 1751 and it came up as 0951.

[Warmtoast]

Chevvron has it. It's North Weald with Vampire 3's.

The then Post Office Overseas Service Radio Telephone masts in the background are the give-away - are they still there?

I was posted to North Weald (for MSOC at nearby Kelvedon Hatch in October 1953).

Not sure which squadron aircraft are shown, but possibly 601 which operated Vampires at North Weald in the late 1940's - early 1950's.

Over to you Chevvron.

[chevvron]

Open Hooouuuse!

[PaperTiger]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3236/2796125593_aaea77ab25.jpg?v=0

[Fishtailed]

Sorry. double post, carry on Chevron, I'll try later.

[sycamore]

Somewhere in Canada ?

[Fishtailed]

Looks like a US army station with all those jeeps.

[LFT]

How about Cherry Point MCAS North Carolina.

[PaperTiger]

Not Canadian, not Cherry Point.

U.S. it is.

[Fishtailed]

Norton, San Bernadino, California.

[PaperTiger]

Close but no cigar.

[Fishtailed]

George AFB Victorville army airfield, California

[PaperTiger]

Right State, wrong airfield.

[Fishtailed]

Is it Santa Anna, now John Wayne Airport?

[PaperTiger]

Not Santa Ana, Pilgrim.

The airport is still in use, one of the original hangars in the photo survived until December 2007 when it was then demolished :{ .

Perhaps this will help:
http://www.godickson.com/Images/rbvn3.jpg

Dam' fine picture, even if it doesn't !

[Fishtailed]

Thanks for the clue, I'll guess at Chino.

[PaperTiger]

Not Chino. Gonna give it away:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/Berlin_flightsim/casa09.jpg

[Fishtailed]

Last try, Burbank. (film connection?)

[ARCHIE1]

Van Nuys Metropolitan

[PaperTiger]

Archie has it :ok:.

Van Nuys aka San Fernando Valley aka L.A. Metropolitan.
Not usually thought of as an Air Base, but used by many years by the AAF and then the CAL ANG who moved out because the runway was too short for their 'new' F-100s.

(Casablanca was the film BTW)

[ARCHIE1]

Thank you.

I don't have anything suitable to hand so it's Open House or as Captain Renault (left of screen) would have said - "Round up the usual suspects!"

[Warmtoast]

As it's Open House again an easy one which should last about 10 minutes!


http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/Where_o_where.jpg

[Duckbutt]

Is it Northolt?

[Duckbutt]

OK then, I think it may be a photo taken at Northolt by Edward Malindine for the Daily Herald on 4th March 1938 showing Hurricane 1's of 111 Squadron who had reequipped with them a couple of months previously from Gladiators.

It is possible that the second machine in the row, L1550, crashed at Colnbrook on the 14th July that year, killing the pilot.

It is also possible that some people on this site have too much time on their hands!

[Warmtoast]

Duckbutt is right.

111 Sqn showing off their new Hurricane 1's at Northolt in 1938.

Duckbutt - your turn.

[Duckbutt]

Thank you Warmtoast. Have a go at this one:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/Puzz23b.jpg

[Fishtailed]

Somewhere in SEA, North Vietnam, Hanoi?

[Duckbutt]

Right part of the world.

[Duckbutt]

The airfield has not been used for over 60 years now and was built in the mid 1930's on the orders of uninvited 'guests' and initially used as a staging post for return journeys to cities in another country. Local labour was used who to say the least did not receive the minimum wage.

The aircraft shelters visible are reinforced and consequently survived. Since the field fell into disuse local farmers have cultivated the areas around them, as shown here:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/Puzz23a.jpg

[D120A]

I think I recognise one of the cabbages. Is it Altehru airfield, near Sangmo-ri, on Cheju-do, South Korea?

Truly, some of us (thank you Google, 'Japanese airfield shelters') have too much time on our hands. :)

Open House if correct.

[Duckbutt]

All kale to you D 120A for rooting it out! We are talking the same place although the spelling I have for it is Alddeureu. Built by forced labour and used by Japanese AF bombers as a base to bomb Nanking and Shanghai in 1937.

Open house.

[CathayBrat]

http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/adsbarnes/disaster2000_africa_plane1.gif

[India Four Two]

"I said, 'Left hand down a bit, Mr. Phillips!'"

Sorry , I couldn't resist the Navy Lark joke. Not a clue where it is other than somewhere tropical.

[Double Hydco]

Is it Mwanza on (or in) Lake Vic?

DH

[CathayBrat]

Yup, have a friend who's fishing boat has aircraft quality metal flooring and some v comfy seats! Spent a v happy 3 years flying out of there, well worth a visit, especially if u like to fish! V big airport, as seen by baggage collection area!
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc351/adsbarnes/lentokentta_200.jpg

[Flap40]

Surely this is Entebbe (or just short of the runway!)


Edit: Right lake, ... wrong airport - agree with Mwanza.

[evansb]

It is indeed Mwanza, Tanzania, on the south shore of Lake Victoria. CathayBrat confirmed the location. We are awaiting Double Hydco's aerodrome challenge.

[India Four Two]

So what's the history of the wet undershoot?

[evansb]

Hi Simon!

aviation-safety.net/database has a full report. No fatalities. After holding for electrical power to be restored to the airport, the TAAT 707 freighter commenced an unstabilised approach resulting in the aircraft bouncing 2 or 3 times and came to rest in the lake. Irony was the aircraft was to pick up a load of fish.

Bri