Which Aerodrome?

[evansb]

RAF Elvington ?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry chaps, none of the following:-
Middleton St George
Church Fenton or
RAF Elvington

[Arfur Feck-Sake]

Is it RAF Thornaby?

[PaperTiger]

Paper Tiger, for those like me who are completely morse-code ignorant that would be?That would be me humming the theme to BoB :8

[chevvron]

How about Leconfield?

[MReyn24050]

chevvron has it. It was RAF Leconfield back in 1955, in fact the 12th Dec 1955 with DH Venom WK426 landing minus nosewheel.
You have control.

[chevvron]

Open house again!!

[Duckbutt]

How about this one:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/Puzz-19a.jpg

[evansb]

French Frigate Shoals, Pacific Ocean.

[CathayBrat]

one has to wonder why they even bothered! Runway is larger than the island, middle of no where......

[Urshtnme]

I wonder how many will recognize this one

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6b/Truscott_2007.jpg

[ZH875]

I could cheat and say:

The airfield is Mungalalu Truscott and is some 281 NM west-southwest of Darwin and 333 NM northeast of Broome. Located on the Anjo Peninsula in the far North Kimberley district of Western Australia. Mungalalu Truscott occupies 46 km2 in an Aboriginal reserve.



The airfield was originally constructed in 1944 as a Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) base and was actively used during World War II. RAAF Truscott was named after the Australian air ace, Keith "Bluey" Truscott, who had been killed in an accident in 1943.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Truscott_Sign_01.jpg
I throw it back to Urshtnme to have another attempt, and request that the properties are 'adjusted' to stop us cheats.:O

[Duckbutt]

As always evansb has it and has control (unless Urshtnme wants to muscle in before invitation issued that is).

[Urshtnme]

Fill ya boots guys!! I love Truscott, had some good times there. That bloody Croc is still there and getting bigger to!

[evansb]

Here is the next aerodrome challenge:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080606.jpg

Photo of same aerodrome taken prior to completion of monument:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080607.jpg

[Warmtoast]

Le Bourget?

[evansb]

Sorry, not Le Bourget. Le Bourget was posted in July of 2007.

[Flap40]

How about Rome - Ciampino?

[Hangar_9]

is it farnborough :}

[evansb]

Sorry, not in Italy or England.

[aviate1138]

Maison Blanche, Tunisia?

[evansb]

Sorry, not Tunisia. It is on the continent of Europe.

[S'land]

Tirana, Albania?

[evansb]

Sorry, not in Albania.

[Kieron Kirk]

Amsterdam/Schiphol.

Ciarain.

[aviate1138]

Antwerp maybe?

[evansb]

Sorry, not in the Netherlands, nor in Belgium, although the monument has a connection to Belgium. The monument in the first photograph did not survive World War II.

[PPRuNe Radar]

Calais Beaumaris ?

[evansb]

Not Calais, but you are in the right country.

[Davidsoffice]

Velizy - Villacoublay?

David

[evansb]

Not Maubeuge, nor Villacoublay. The monument honored a French WW.I ace.

[PPRuNe Radar]

Le Bourget perhaps ?

[evansb]

Not Le Bourget. See post #3549. The fallen French WW.I hero is also honored by a monument in Belgium.

[Arfur Feck-Sake]

Dunkerque-Les Moeres? Monument to Georges Guynemer?

[evansb]

Sorry, it is not Dunkerque. The monument was to Georges Guynemer. You chaps seem as keen as mustard to identify this aerodrome, so I'll give you another clue: Dunkerque is too far nord.

[norwich]

mmmm, Lille LFQQ. ??? Keith ???

[S'land]

Verdun, Le Rozelier?

[evansb]

Not Lille nor Verdun. Alas, Lille and Verdun are still too far nord.

[pigboat]

Vauciennes?

[evansb]

Sorry, not Vauciennes. I do understand that the HQ Armee de l'air in Paris has a monument to Georges Guynemer, but the mystery aerodrome is not in the vicinity of Paris.

[India Four Two]

All these guesses and yet you had hidden a clue in plain sight. I finally remembered your propensity for puns ;) You chaps seem as keen as mustard It's Dijon-Longvic

[evansb]

Simon, I knew you were the man who could cut the mustard! :ok: Well done:D It is indeed Dijon, France, which is still an active French military air base.

A substantial monument to Georges Guynemer is located at the central round-about in the Belgian town of Poelkapelle. It is near the site of his last battle with the Hun. You have control.

[India Four Two]

Thanks, Bri. That was a good one. There is a replacement monument at Longvic, on a smaller scale:

http://www.histavia21.net/LIEUX-HISTOIRE/BA-102/LONG-0004.htm

and the elegant 'Stork motif' monument at Poelkappelle can be seen here:

http://www.cheminsdememoire.gouv.fr/page/affichelieu.php?idLang=fr&idLieu=1179

Here's the next aerodrome. I'm going back to the island theme, but this airfield is a little less extreme in its land use than French Frigate Shoal:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WA6June08.jpg

[KeMac]

At a guess, one of the smaller Seychelles Islands - Bird Island???

[evansb]

Lady Elliott Island ?

[India Four Two]

Lady Elliott Island ?

bri has it (I'll forgive the two tees ;))

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/lady-elliot-island.jpg

The southern-most coral island on the Great Barrier Reef and the only one with an airstrip.

A beautiful place, great diving, NO MOBILE PHONES ;) and the roughest airstrip I have ever landed on in a commercial aircraft. Birdstrikes on nearly every takeoff and sliced and diced Bridled Terns on the runway.

The only thing which spoils the idyll and which is not apparent in the brochures is the overpowering smell of guano from the White Capped Noddies which nest in nearly every tree on the island!

A piece of trivia - the airstrip was bulldozed in 1969 and is reputedly 1969' long.

Over to you, bri

[evansb]

Thanks Simon. What a beautiful island! Here is the next 'Which Aerodrome?'

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080610.jpg

[India Four Two]

Hmmm, doesn't look much like Longreach to me, but with a Qantas 707, I suppose it must be. I had heard they have had some rains in Australia, so perhaps that accounts for the greenery.

You're up early aren't you, bri?

[smuff2000]

Don't know the correct name for the airfield but it is the home of John Travolta, in the picture is his 707, ex Qantas, and his Gulfstream, just found it on Google, Greystone Airport Florida

[evansb]

smuff2000 is correct:ok: Greystone Airport, north of Ocala, Florida, FAA ID: 17FL, adjacent to Jumbolair Aviation Estates, home of John Travolta's Boeing 707 Qantas V-Jet. Mr. Travolta is having trouble flying the 707 due to the deteriorated state of the runway. You have control.

[pigboat]

Evansb, in the 1960's I spent a season flying forest fire patrol based in St. Jovite, north of Montreal. There was a relative of Georges Guynemer, either his nephew or great nephew, I forget which, named Réné Guynemer who owned a pension and bistro at Lac Maskinongé near St. Jovite. It was called l'Auberge de la Vieille France, but was known to all and sundry as Chez Poilu. :)

[smuff2000]

Open House as I don't have any airfield pics available.

[LFT]

Ok, here's one -

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd11/DJ17DJ/tower.jpg

[PPRuNe Radar]

Looks similar to the tower at Lee on Solent, certainly a Navy design.

[LFT]

Not Lee on Solent PPRuNe Radar :E

[LFT]

Correct Speechless Two :ok:

[evansb]

Pulau, Langkawi International, Malaysia.

[India Four Two]

OK. Some light entertainment while we wait for evansb.

I was surprised that this airfield was Pulau Langkawi, so I thought I would look it up on Google Earth. Being lazy, I just typed in Langkawi - I mean how many can there be?

Well, two others as it turns out:

Did you mean:
Langkawi, Chorley
Langkawi, Dorking

Be careful what you choose for a house name - the whole world is watching :)

[evansb]

Two weeks in Langkawi would be wonderful. No, I don't mean the one in Dorking. Here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080613.jpg

[Kieron Kirk]

Langkawi, South Drive, Dorking.

Des. res. with no international airport!

Good food, good pubs and high class winery.

Lets hear it for DORKING!

Ciarain.

[aviate1138]

Amarillo Texas?

[evansb]

Sorry, not Amarillo, Texas.

[evansb]

Clue: The airport is presently named after an American aviation pioneer, who originally took flying lessons on a Wright biplane. He built the airfield, and later he teamed up with another aviation pioneer/industrialist and together they operated the airport and a flying service.

[aviate1138]

Bethany - Wiley Post Airport?

Will Rogers was his oppo.

[evansb]

Not Bethany Airport, which I think is on Block Island. Not Wiley Post, which I think is in Oklahoma. The Delta/C&S DC-7 should give you a mess of clues.

[India Four Two]

Certainly a mess of options as bri says. Here's a route map, but I'm no closer to finding the right airport:

http://blog.delta.com/wp-content/uploads/1954-dl-cs-map.jpg

C&S sounds more like a railroad than an airline :)

"All aboard. Chicago and Southern Limited. Calling at Memphis, New Orleans and Havana. All aboard!"

[evansb]

Chicago & Southern merged with Delta in the early 1950s and Delta carried the C&S logo until 1955. Sorry, it is not Memphis, New Orleans, nor Havana. The mystery airport is on the route map, however.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/delta_c-s_coaster-296x300.jpg

[irc1804]

Lambert - St. Louis International Airport. previously known as Kinloch Field.

President Theodore Roosevelt, the first president to ride in an airplane, took his first ride at the Kinloch airfield. Soon after, the first experimental parachute jump in the world took place in St. Louis. Then, Major Albert Lambert purchased the 550 acres of land known as Kinloch Field and renamed it Lambert Field. Major Lambert was the first person in St. Louis to receive his private pilot's license, having taken his first flight in an airplane with Orville Wright.

Open house if correct

[Moira]

Birmingham Municipal Airport, Alabama?
Formerly operated by Messer and Stinson.

Open house if correct

[evansb]

Moira is correct. Glenn Edmund Messer is the namesake for the Birmingham, Alabama airport. It is too bad you can't post a photo. I do wish more ppruners would post photos.

[Moira]

Sorry for not posting Bri, but I'll be away for the next 2 days so I just can't follow up ... Perhaps that means I should have left the challenge to others, but hey, just couldn't resist. :uhoh:

[India Four Two]

Moira's loss is my gain and it gives me a chance to post a picture of one of my favourite aircraft - aaaaaaaah! de Havilland.

Where was this low flying taking place (notice the two men ducking)?

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WA9June.jpg

Edited to add that this is a very impressive photo - the Mossie is very sharp, considering the high speed.

Further edit - the sharpness intrigued me, so I did some measurements. The tip of the port prop has moved through about 25 degrees. Assuming 3000 rpm, this gives a shutter speed of slightly slower than 1/1000.

So I'm guessing the shutter speed was either 1/500 or 1/1000. The lack of helical distortion of the prop blades implies a focal plane shutter. Leica anyone?

[evansb]

Great photo Simon! Check your PM.
Bri

[aviate1138]

Looks like the old MGM studios at Borehamwood!

[India Four Two]

I hadn't thought about a movie. This shot is real, not staged.

Not Borehamwood nor anywhere close to London.

[India Four Two]

Time for some clues.

Look at the hangar and the car (lower right).

The picture was taken on 10 April 1945 (VE day + 2)

[twochai]

IF42: Could it, by any chance, be Downsview??

[India Four Two]

twochai,

Yes, it is an RCAF hangar. Right country, wrong province, although I can see why you might think Downsview, since it was home to the Mosquito factory

http://www.museevirtuel.ca/pm.php?id=story_line_index&fl=0&lg=English&ex=192&pos=1

[twochai]

Well done, IF2, you triggered the recall of a story almost lost in insufficiently exercised grey matter :D:

http://www.dunrobincastle.com/Nose_Art/WW2Planes/mosquito_Freddie.htm

It was indeed April 10, 1945, when one of the most famous Mosquitos of the war on a victory tour across Canada, clipped the roof of a hangar at Calgary, killing the crew.

What a lousy way to end the conflict:(

[India Four Two]

Yes, a very sad story and obviously not very well known, even in Calgary.

F for Freddie was a Pathfinder Oboe Mosquito with 213 operations - reputedly the highest number for an allied aircraft - the Smithsonian's B-26 'Flak Bait' comes a close second with 202.

The father of a friend of mine in Calgary saw the fly-bys in downtown Calgary and confirms that Freddie was below the top of the Hudson's Bay Store, which is six stories.

http://www.hbc.com/hbcheritage/history/places/stores/calgary.asp


The link you've put up has a very colourful, speculative connection with a Nationalist Chinese femme fatale.

A more prosaic version is told here, but with more (but unfortunately low resolution) pictures:

http://www.asmac.ab.ca/html/F%20for%20Freddie.pdf

The last picture in the pdf is an aerial view, claiming to show the crash site. However, I'm pretty sure that the picture is not McCall Field. What do you think, bri?

twochai has the floor.

[twochai]

OK, here's my next challenge:

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk89/twochai/TwoChaiairfield06-15-08.jpg

[Flap40]

Stoney Cross

[India Four Two]

flap40,

I never would have guessed that airfield was in England and yet I've actually driven on that road that runs from SE to N over the airfield. Didn't even notice it!

[twochai]

Flap40 has it - it is indeed Stoney Cross in the New Forest.

You have the wheel.

[Flap40]

Thanks. I don't think that we have had this one...

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/jodel_bucket/airfieldquiz.jpg

[ZH875]

The first name that springs to mind is:

Barrow (Walney Island)

[Flap40]

That's correct.

The floor is yours.

[Background Noise]

Poop - one I recognised:(

[ZH875]

Unable to find my collection of photos, and unfortunately Background Noise is unable to fill in for me, and to avoid upsetting folk by calling Open House, I have trawled the Internet and found this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/ZH875/creech_AFB.jpg

I will be taking the location of the photograph as stated on the page I found it.

[Evileyes]

ZH875

I think you will find that one has been done before. Recommend you have another go at posting one or open the floor.

Cheers!

[TheChitterneFlyer]

And the image 'properties' gives the game away... sorry I'll stop 'screeching'!

TCF

[ZH875]

ZH875

I think you will find that one has been done before. Recommend you have another go at posting one or open the floor.

Cheers!

Oops, Thanks for that, I missed this one first time around.

And the image 'properties' gives the game away... sorry I'll stop 'screeching'!

TCF

Screech away, as I am sure you will be happy to note that although the properties say 'Creech_AFB', this runway belonged to Dorado Auxilliary airdrome in Peurto Rico.:E

To save time - OPEN HOUSE.

[evansb]

Here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080617.jpg

[PPRuNe Radar]

To be fair to ZH785, the link to the list of aerodromes already done does not appear to be working, plus the previous picture of this aerodrome also appears to have been removed from the previous posters picture hosting site.

There is nothing in Seacue's original rules to say that an aerodrome cannot be done more than once, although I expect that using the same picture would not be welcomed.

In this case, there is no way of checking the original picture posted, so I would say the submission was a valid one.

[evansb]

I think the list is 99.44% correct. Dorado Beach was listed as being posted on April 14th of this year, a mere 2 months ago.

[ZH875]

Gents, it's a Hands Up, I did not check the list, and I am guilty as charged, laziness is my only defence.:=


Now if we can continue with evansb's picture.

[PPRuNe Radar]

No need to roll your eyes Evansb. I am sure the list is 100% correct at the time it is updated. :ok:

However, if you actually read my post, I said the link to the list (which is in Post #1) is not working. Click on it and see what you get ... I get ''Sorry, the page you requested was not found.'' If there is another list you are using, this can be added to the original post so that people have an easy reference to look at. If however it is buried somewhere in the middle of this thread, then it's not a lot of use.

Try the link below, let me know what you get.

http://www.geocities.com/artificer356/WhatAerodromeList050108.htm?20085

[Upyer RRR]

I'll take a wild guess at Evansb's piccie: the original Kona in Hawaii.

[MReyn24050]

PPRuNe Radar the list at Post #1 is out of date as I do not have access to it. However, I published a seperate thread which contains the latest What Cockpit and What Aerodrome challenges posted. I update these lists each month, sometimes twice a month depending on the number of new challenges posted . Unfortunately, as with all threads, it slips down the page as posts to existing threads and new threads are posted. Would it be possible to make "What Cockpit and What Aerodrome Lists" a sticky?

[TheChitterneFlyer]

ZH875; sorry mate; wasn't trying to be clever.

Looks like a great place to be though!

TCF

[evansb]

Sorry RRR, it is not Kona, Hawaii, but you are in the right country. The airstrip is no longer in operation, and the 'love shacks' have been removed.
The area is presently a State Park.

[PPRuNe Radar]

PPRuNe Radar the list at Post #1 is out of date as I do not have access to it. However, I published a seperate thread which contains the latest What Cockpit and What Aerodrome challenges posted. I update these lists each month, sometimes twice a month depending on the number of new challenges posted . Unfortunately, as with all threads, it slips down the page as posts to existing threads and new threads are posted. Would it be possible to make "What Cockpit and What Aerodrome Lists" a sticky?

The thread you mentioned is now stickied :ok:

Keep up the good work.

[MReyn24050]

The thread you mentioned is now stickied

Thanks for that, both lists updated today.
Mel

[MReyn24050]

Kualoa Army Airfield, Kualoa pehaps?

[evansb]

Sorry Mel, not in the State of Hawaii. Too far west. Jackie Gleason's character 'Ralph Kramden' and his wife 'Alice' would have loved this place.
Here is recent photo:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080618.jpg

[twochai]

Ralph Kramden, going far enough away from NYC that palm frond huts exist on a pure white sand beach?? The mind boggles!

Unless there are a bunch of red herrings in this picture as well?

[evansb]

Well, JENKINS fairly said it, but it is not Virginia Key, Florida. Now I just need the actual name of the island. No red herrings. The original airstrip is no longer visible. A newer runway, now used as a car-park, is visible in the colour photo, as are remnants of the wharf. Here is an aerial view taken in the eary 1950s.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080618A.jpg

[evansb]

JENKINS is correct:ok: Located in Pinellas County, just west of Tampa, Florida. Started in 1939 by a New York real estate magnate, the thatched huts proved popular with honeymooners and vacationers until the early 1960s, when a causeway was built, connecting the lovely island to the mainland, and subsequent day-visitors by the thousands. You have control.

[philbky]

http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/PhilBKY/airfield.jpg

So, a couple of clues:

No longer in existence. Named for the son of a legal man.

BTW, before anyone suggests i've jumped the queue, the following post #4190147 was posted by Jenkins at 09.24 today but has since been removed:

JENKINSTo quote Ralph Kramden, "One of these days..." Sorry that technology has not spread to my Interweb machine, so cannot post some of my Box Brownie snaps. When I retire!!

Open House please, thanks evansb.

[philbky]

Over 12 hours and no attempt so here's two more clues:

The son was a Captain and the location is near a capital place to be if you find yourself in a holiday state.

[philbky]

Well done Jenkins:ok: Obviously I made the clues too easy:D

[evansb]

Here is one to keep the thread moving:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080620.jpg

[Shaft109]

North Island NAS San Diego ?

[Moira]

La Guardia NY in earlier days?
(back in the late 1930's still known as North Beach)

[PaperTiger]

I'd say so, moira.

[Moira]

There's actually a nice artist's impression of La Guardia on the following link: http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2007/03/26/.

But let's be courteous and wait for Bri's answer!

Ann

[evansb]

Yes, Ann is correct:ok: Before North Beach, it was named Glenn H. Curtiss Airport. Presently named in honor of the aviation minded former New York mayor Fiorello La Guardia. KLGA. You have control.

[Moira]

Thanks Bri, nice challenge as usual!
Here's the next one:

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj271/AnnStevens/WAD200608-1.jpg?t=1213994986

[PaperTiger]

Is the control tower unique ? Otherwise, a B-24, a Jeep and a control tower really narrows it down :} .

[Moira]

Isn't that why it's called a CHALLENGE? :E
But perhaps you have a point so I'll add a bit of a clue (don't know if it helps though) ;)

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj271/AnnStevens/prop.jpg?t=1213996084

[Tiger_mate]

Dunkeswell

http://www.controltowers.co.uk/D/images/dunkeswell_44.jpg

I think that it is a fairly safe bet to declare "Open House"

PS

Right click this image and visit the website of origin, it is a treasure trove of airfield info.

[Moira]

Now that was quick, Tiger_mate: :D

The airfield was built in the Second World War by the RAF, briefly used by the USAF (during WWII it was apparently the largest US Naval Air Station in Europe), and then the Fleet Airwing 7 of the USN and is now a busy civilian airfield with a mix of light aircraft, microlights and parachuting.

You have control!

[Tiger_mate]

OPEN HOUSE

[philbky]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y285/PhilBKY/s.jpg

One location, two names

[MReyn24050]

Please check your PMs.
Mel

[philbky]

Clue time:

A place of education, many firsts and close to a great deal of sand - the proximity to the sea might suit the resident sailors - but one of the names is more bucolic.

[MReyn24050]

Bri. Please bid my PM to Phil was in respect of the Challenge at post #3646 not his latest challenge. It would seem Jenkins had deleted his Post and I was after the name of the airfield for the list.
Mel

[ZH875]

philkby, I can remember dropping in, unnanounced there, way back in the early 90's.

The guard on the gate was a tad surprised to say the least, having a Chinook needing secure overnight parking.

[philbky]

So where is it? Or has the building stuck in your mind but you can't quite recall the name of the place? :)

[ZH875]

philbky, I sent via PM to you, as I do not have anything current to post.

However, I will declare it Open House, if you accept HMS Ringtail II as the Navy knew it, or RAF Woodvale for the RAF place.

A delightful little base.

[philbky]

Only just seen your PM as ISP is playing up.

Woodvale it is of course :ok:

University Air Squadrons (Liverpool and Manchester) based there, close to Southport and Ainsdale - miles of sand and the home of ATC Air Experience Flights for nearly 60 years - with first time flights for thousands of cadets.

Open House it is.

[twochai]

OK, enough of control towers, back to whole airports.

This one shouln't last long:

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk89/twochai/Which.jpg

[evansb]

Staten Island, New York.

[twochai]

Hmmmm.... Staten Island it is, once again Evansb gets it right, first time, fast time! Evansb, you have control, as usual.

I think this would have been a much more likely venue for the Kramdens to visit on holiday!



Memo to self: must try harder, do more original research.

[evansb]

Thanks twochai. That was fun. Here is the next 'Which Aerodrome?':
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080621.jpg

[evansb]

Time for a clue. The photo was taken in 1932. The aerodrome is an historic site.

[PPRuNe Radar]

#3646 was Dale Mabry Field according to Jenkins post (which I have now reinserted in to the thread - I am not sure what the point is in deleting the answer, even if the winner has no pic to post ??)

[evansb]

Here is a recent photo of the mystery aerodrome, looking west:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080621a.jpg

[sidtheesexist]

Somewhere in the North of the northern hemisphere - Norway or Canada perhaps? Am I warm..........?

[evansb]

It is in Canada.

[twochai]

West coast?

[PaperTiger]

Harbour Grace, Newfoundland: http://jproc.ca/rrp/h_grace.html

Next:

http://www3.telus.net/public/bkm600/B17.jpg

The year is 1939 and the "airport" no longer exists.

[John Hill]

B17 at San Francisco World's Fair?

[PaperTiger]

B17 at San Francisco World's Fair?
Correct. I'm impressed !

The "airport" was the Treasure Island Panam Clipper base, later AAF.

Over to you.

[evansb]

Harbour Grace, Newfoundland is still a registered airport, location identifier CHG2, and is operated by the Town of Harbour Grace.
It is listed in the current edition of the Canada Flight Supplement. Runway 09/27, 2000-ft turf. No winter maint. 65 ft high rock outcrop 450 ft E of thld rwy 27. Rwy may be soft when wet.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/Harbour_Grace_Plaque.jpg

[pigboat]

The Spirit Of Harbour Grace (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFdC_g6iMmI).

I've never flown QBI but got some time on her sister ship, QBC.

[John Hill]

Thank you PaperTiger but the clues made it easy!

However work time calls here in the antipodes so

open house!

[twochai]

This will not last until the Antipodes drift back to the barbie!


http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk89/twochai/Whichaerodrome.jpg

[John Hill]

Cold Lake Alberta?

[twochai]

Not the Cool Pool, not Alberta.

[evansb]

Great posting twochai! Check your PM.

[India Four Two]

Hmmm. Two Canucks exchanging secret notes about an airfield with snow on the ground.

Could it possibly be this one?

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/PAvro504.jpg


Camp Borden, Ontario

Picture from here: http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/16wing/heritage/airmus4_e.asp

[twochai]

You have it, I42, it is (was) RCAF Station Camp Borden, the birthplace of the RFC in Canada in 1917, later home of #1 SFTS and the British Commonwealth Air Training Plan. That curved hangar line is a dead giveaway.

It was also the site of Robert Turnbull's early experiments credited as the first successful variable pitch propellor.

Over to you, India Four Two!

[India Four Two]

Thanks, two chai. Yes, the curve is a giveaway, but I had never seen a picture of Borden before. However, I immediately looked up what I knew to be the biggest early military airfield in Canada. How on earth did they manage to avoid the military obsession for straight lines and right angles? I can imagine the RSM having a fit.

BTW, a nice picture of the 504K, for which I have a soft spot, since both my grandfathers learnt to fly in them. However, the artist has managed to overlook the requirement for windscreens! For British readers, note the "Imperial" registration prefix for Canada in the 1920s - "G-C". I'm not sure when the switch to "CF-" happened.

Here's a quite difficult one (I think, but I imagine I could be proven wrong very quickly). Where was this nice art deco terminal? Extra points for identifying the aircraft with the two-row radials.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WAJune25.jpg

[twochai]

How on earth did they manage to avoid the military obsession for straight lines and right angles? I can imagine the RSM having a fit.

It probably had something to do with the rocky outcrops and bogs around Camp Borden, which is located at the edge of the Canadian Shield. Pretty scrubby land!

[India Four Two]

Not in Africa. Go west young man, well northwest to be precise.

I wondered about the aircraft being a Connie - the caption does not mention the type.

Edited to say that it doesn't look like this fire-breather (Photos: Lockheed C-121C Super Constellation (L-1049F) Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net (http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0943006)), so maybe a Douglas product?

BTW, re the link above, was it normal for this much fire out of the exhaust on a Super Connie?

[merlinxx]

Wet starts were common, I always put the naughtiest of my ground handling team on fire bottle duty on start-up!

[India Four Two]

XX,

That wasn't very nice of you, was it? ;)

The Connie picture I linked to was in-flight. Was that normal? It would scare me if I was a passenger.

Back to the aerodrome in question. It's west of the Mississippi in one of the less populated states. The terminal is no longer there.

Someone has suggested to me that the aircraft is a C-118. That's possible, since this was also a military base. On the other hand, it could also be a civilian DC-6.

Edited to add that someone might chastise me by saying that most states west of the Mississippi are "less populated". So to clarify, even by western US standards, this state is still less populated.

[evansb]

I'll start the guessing by saying it is Alamogordo, NM.

[India Four Two]

Interesting guess, bri. Try a bit closer to home. There is a nuclear connection, but no detonations in this state.

[evansb]

Great Falls, Montana. And I've been there! Several times! Shuda known..

Aircraft is most likely a Western Airlines DC-6B.

[India Four Two]

Well done bri. Yes, I went through there too in the 70s on a Western 720 and remember an "interesting" terminal. Long gone now.

Over to you

[evansb]

Thanks Simon! Here is the next mystery aerodrome:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080626.jpg

[Tiger_mate]

The aircraft is a British Eagle Britannia, and possibly another RAF one beyond. Distant hangars look brit mil, and therefore as Brits did the routes through the middle east to australia, I will vote for Changi / Singapore.

[norwich]

Well, looking at the two aircraft / timescale and a bit of thinking, I have two offers (can I try two at one time ?)
I am going for Brindisi or Rimini ??? at least both are southern Italy ??
Keith.

[BSD]

Tiger mate,

Your reasoning sounds spot on. Looking at the photo though, I think it is actually Paya Lebar - Changi's next door neighbour.

BSD.

[evansb]

BSD is correct.:ok: Former Singapore International Airport at Paya Lebar.

You have control.

[BSD]

evansb,

Ta!. I couldn't really claim it, as without the Tiger mate's observation, I wouldn't have got it.

Tiger mate: you have control.

Failing that, open house. Still haven't mastered posting yet.

BSD,

[Tiger_mate]

Very kind offer, but it would be the end of the day before I could publish one. If anyone has one ready to go, feel free to intervene.

Open House

[John Hill]

http://tinyurl.com/6elxns

How about this one? Not much to go on so here is an easy clue. This airport has a rather special ICAO designator type which few if any others have.

[Phileas Fogg]

Apia Faleolo?

[John Hill]

No, not Faleolo but your sleuthing is on the right track.

[India Four Two]

This airport has a rather special ICAO designator type

Then it must be Niue, Alofi with the eponymous ICAO designator of NIUE

[John Hill]

Full marks to India Four Two, Hanan International at Alofi on the island of Niue, 19S 169W if I recall correctly from the year or so I spent there sole charge of the airport in the early 70's.

You have control..

[India Four Two]

Thanks, John. I see you were east of the dateline. That must be odd - so close to NZ, but a whole day behind, during NZ summer.

"And now for something completely different..."

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WA27June.jpg

[John Hill]

India Four Two, I will hazard that airport is somewhere in Eastern Europe. Maybe one of the airports of Prague, but not Ruyzne.

Yes, Niue is the other side of the dateline from NZ. Polynesian Airlines used to fly from Samoa to Tonga to Niue and back to Samoa using a HS748. Tonga is 13 hours ahead of UTC (yes, everyone says they are cheating!) so if you struck it right you left Samoa yesterday to fly to Tonga tomorrow and arrive in Niue today, UTC days. If a passenger asked the barefoot Polynesian cabin crew "what day will we arriving in .....?" she would respond "I will tell you when we get there!"

[India Four Two]

Not Eastern Europe, but there is an interesting connection, as will become clear.

A lovely story about the arrival day/date. I thought it was bad enough figuring out arrival dates for trans-Pacific flights ;)

Of course, NZ cheats too, during the summer, with UTC+13.

[John Hill]

Well I still think it is (or was) a communist country, but other than that absolutely no idea!

Thats right, NZ is UTC +13 in summer, in fact I think we cheat quite a bit and that even in winter our clocks are about 30 minutes ahead of the sun!

[India Four Two]

Well I still think it is (or was) a communist country

I don't think the locals would like to hear you say that. However, plenty of red stars around.

[John Hill]

Hmmm... perhaps I would be better served by getting some beauty sleep, my brain alone is obviously not enough to get me through!:}

[Background Noise]

Are those north american section lines?

[India Four Two]

They certainly are. One every mile, if the surveyors were sober!

[Rafair7643]

I would say that it's Nellis AFB in Nevada

Cheers

Stew

[India Four Two]

I'm sorry Stew, "red flag" for you. Not Nellis, the runway layout is wrong.

[Rafair7643]

Yeah you're right, I should have looked closer. It's Fallon NAS.

Cheers

Stew

[Background Noise]

So aggressors for red stars?

[Rafair7643]

Aye, that's where my one brain cell was taking me BN ;)

Cheers

Stew

[India Four Two]

Stew's got it.

Fallon Naval Air Station, Nevada, home to Top Gun and VFC-13. Here are some of the red stars I was referring to:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/vfc-13.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/f5fadversary.jpg

Technically it's an Adversary squadron, Aggressor being the Air Force term.

Rafair7643 - you have control.

[Rafair7643]

Cheers mate,

This one (taken in the 1940's).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/Rafair7643/7643.jpg

If it helps the 2 rows of buildings at middle right are still there for all to see.

Cheers

Stew

[LFT]

Perth Scone.

[Rafair7643]

Yeah I thought it was a bit too obvious (but it's my local). Here it is today;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/Rafair7643/piccie.jpg

LFT - You have control

[LFT]

Thanks for that Rafair 7643, here's the next one -

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd11/DJ17DJ/nocheating.jpg

[Tiger_mate]

To narrow it down a little, I would suggest that the terrain is East Coast American continent, probably between Virginia and Honduras. It looks like the Carolinas coastline but there are areas around Mexico that are similar.

Am I even tepid let alone warm?

[LFT]

Very warm.

[LFT]

And I doubt you'll see any shots on Airliners dot net taken on the ground from here..

[Tiger_mate]

Is the attached square field with a white spot on it a Parachute DZ?

The single digit runway heading (2?) is suggesting USA, and your comment is suggesting military. All things in one pot would suggest a US Army detached airfield that operates airborne troops.

....and even if it is, the US Military have dozens of airfields that meet that description.

[LFT]

Neither US Army, Marines, Air Force, Coast Guard nor Navy..

[chevvron]

Slow moving tidal water courses might indicate Florida.

[LFT]

Not Florida, but Tiger_mate was close in his first post, it is in the US.

[LFT]

....it has a 5000' runway 05/23..

[TheChitterneFlyer]

I think it's CAMP PEARY.

TCF

[LFT]

Correct TheChitterneFlyer - You have control :ok:

[TheChitterneFlyer]

Yeah, Langly is just down the road. Open house... when I get the hang of posting a picture on here; I'll be back!

TCF

[evansb]

Located by the York River, Camp Peary Landing Strip, KW94, is DOD restricted, and is operated by the U.S. Army ATCA-ASO, Williamsburg, Virginia.

[twochai]

And now for something recognizable:

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk89/twochai/12345.jpg

[g0kmt]

Gendale Grand Central Airport, California.

If it is then its open house, call it beginners luck etc plus no airfield photos....

Ian

[twochai]

Well done, Ian, and congratulations because it is indeed Glendale, California.

:D Welcome to Which Airport.

As per your request, it is OPEN HOUSE, this time!

[evansb]

Here we go with another aerodrome challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080701.jpg

[KeMac]

Milan Linate

[evansb]

Yes KeMac, it is Milano/Linate, Italy, on the shores of placid Lago Idroscalo. :ok: You have control.

[KeMac]

Thanks Evansb - I have a good picture I want to post but I am having a job finding it so I would like to declare open house at the moment and hopefully at the next open open house come back in with it.

[Warmtoast]

Another one from me.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/ForWhichAirfield1.jpg

[Krakatoa]

OK which one is it, Malpensa or Linate ?

[evansb]

Krakatoa, It is Linate in Milan (LIML) at thred #3745. Its real name is Airport Enrico Forlanini, named after the inventor born in Milan. The orginal airport was rebuilt in the 1950s, and again in the 1980s. Malpensa was on the caption of my Breda sourced photo. Sorry for any confusion. Yes, it is Milan's other airport.

[chevvron]

How about Stornoway?

[Warmtoast]

Not Stornoway,

[AfgAirOps]

Entebbe, Uganda?

[Moira]

My best guess would be Attu, Alaska?

[Warmtoast]

AfgAirOps

Entebbe Uganda it is. Approach to Rwy 18 I think.

Over to you

[AfgAirOps]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/RJPotts/cheat.jpg

[twochai]

Is it Faizabad, Afghanistan?

[AfgAirOps]

44 minutes....... what took so long? :}

It is Faizabad. Over to you.....

[twochai]

I admit, that was a SWAG. I was there was 42 years ago, but your photo did look vaguely familiar!

Sorry, don't have anything ready to go: OPEN HOUSE!

[StbdD]

How about this one?

http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk445/Challenge_photos/One.jpg

[twochai]

Well done StbdD, great evocative shot!

[John Hill]

Horta in the Azores?

[StbdD]

Thanks twochai. T'was an amazing era.

Absolutely right John! You have the controls.

Mel, for the 'has been done' list I'd call it the Horta seaplane base as there is a land aerodrome as well which may appear here someday.

[John Hill]

Thanks StbdD, great picture and it took my best Googling to find it! I eventually found a picture with the same ridge line and went from there!

I am supposed to be 'working' and my library is not here so ...


OPEN HOUSE!

[StbdD]

Perhaps this one will last a bit longer.

http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk445/Challenge_photos/Two.jpg

[KeMac]

Rio - Santos Dumont?

[StbdD]

Bingo KeMac!

7 bloody minutes. Must be the record! :D


You have the controls.

[KeMac]

Many thanks stbdD - It's only because I got up early and nobody else was around! I still have to declare open house. I don't like doing it as it seems lazy but I have a set of photos which I think are in the attic so I will have to dig them out and wait for the next open house. So OPEN HOUSE again.

[John Hill]

Not much to go on, should last ten minutes at least!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3123/2633469308_f8f34eb9da.jpg?v=0

[John Hill]

OK, I am going to pull this one as I wont be able to respond to clues etc for the best part of a day. The Lockheed Lodestar of New Zealands National Airlines Corporation is unloading passengers and bags at what is now Auckland International Airport.



OPEN HOUSE !

[evansb]

John's challenge looks like it would have been fun. Here is the next mystery aerodrome:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080703.jpg

[Duckbutt]

That's Kwajalein, Bikini Atoll I think.

Of interest, if you look at the area on Google Earth, about 3.5 miles to the NW of the airfield just to the North of the island you can just pick out the upturned wreck of the German Cruiser (?) 'Prinz Eugen' where she finished up after the atom bomb tests in 1946.

Embarrassed to have to declare open house if correct as I have nothing immediately prepared.

[evansb]

Duckbutt is correct!:ok: Kwajalein atoll was the site of an historic US and Japanese battle in early 1944. . As he says, it is OPEN HOUSE.

[norwich]

Could I slip this lovely old photo in for a few 'nano seconds' of fun ? I don't think this has been seen before ? Keith

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/where9.jpg

[John Hill]

Hmmmm... that could only be the Curtiss-Wright operation at Miami Municipal Airport.

If I am right, open house!

[norwich]

John Hill, You are so correct ! It is Miami Municipal Airport, later known as Amelia Earhart Field ! A lovely 1930's picture I think.
So it seems OPEN HOUSE ........... Keith.

[twochai]

This might last until the sun is over the yard arm, but maybe not!

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk89/twochai/twochai.jpg

[John Hill]

Banff? (Says he guessing wildly):hmm:

[evansb]

A corny old movie from the 1940s called 'Lake Louise Weekend' featured a DC-4 flying entertainers in from New York and Hollywood for the guests.
Where they landed the aircraft was not shown.;)

I think twochai's challenge is Bluie West One, Narsarsuaq, Greenland. An exciting approach, if there ever was one.

[twochai]

EvansB wins the golden globe once more.

It is Bluie West One, BW1, located near the village of Narsarsuaq; built by the Americans in 1941 as a refuelling stop for use by the lend lease B-24's, etc., enroute from Dorval to Blighty.

In the 1950's BW1 was used by the USAF as a transit stop and by the RCAF's mighty Canadair Sabre 6 squadrons on cold war Operation Leap Frog deliveries to the Air Division in Germany.

But, for many centuries, Narssarssuaq was known as one of the transit points used by the Norse hordes (remember Eric the Red, etc?) enroute to l'Anse aux Meadows, Newfoundland, pre-dating Columbus' discovery of the 'New World' by five centuries!

Greenland - Narsarsuaq - Official Greenland Travel Guide (http://www.greenland.com/content/english/tourist/towns_regions/south_greenland/narsarsuaq)

The ruins of the Norse dwellings are still visible on the Northwest side of the fjord, just after passing the sunken ship marker, which for many pilots was the confirmation they needed to know they were in the correct arm of the fjord. (The wrong turn was almost always deadly)

The shipwreck has long since disappeared below the surface, but it remains an approach requiring careful planning and precise execution. VERY uncomfortable in winds over 25 knots! The masters are Air Greenland, who operate today in most weathers with Dash 7's and A330-200's!

Over to you, EvansB, you have control.

[evansb]

Thank you twochai! Great challenge and excellent information! Here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080704.jpg

[India Four Two]

A good thread on Narsarsuaq and the freighter, including a great post by Milt on his "interesting" approach in a Beverley can be found here:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/aviation-history-nostalgia/101357-narsarsuaq-freighter.html

Intriguing post bri. The trees look tropical but it doesn't look like any of the SE Asian cities I know, so how about Brasil?

OK, scratch Brasil. The Norfolk pines were whispering to me "Oz, Oz". It's a city I do know. Perth, WA with a fly-in in Langley Park. :eek:

What's going on, bri?

[evansb]

Hey Simon! Yes, it is indeed Perth's Langley Park,:ok: An occasional airstrip. The city reopens the strip every three years to aviation to host an experimental amateur-built fly-in. A Red Bull Air Race performed over Langley in 2006. Langley Park was one of the first aerodromes in Australia, and was home to one of the first Australian airlines. You have control.

[India Four Two]

Sorry for the delay chaps. My real life (and sleeping) occasionally gets in the way of my PPRuNing.

That's what I call an inner city airport :)



Here's the next aerodrome - one of Mel's "easy ones":

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WA5July.jpg

[John Hill]

That looks like Mitre Peak with the Footstall to the right and Sinbad Gully right ahead. It is of course Milford Sound in SW New Zealand.

I worked there most of 1969 to 1973..

Here is a (very poor) picture from my time there...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3130/2637588889_4ddf8644b4.jpg?v=0

[India Four Two]

Well done, John. I would have been surprised if it wasn't a Kiwi who answered first. Even without my clumsy deletion of the words "Air Fiordland" from the upper wings, it was pretty obvious.

Here is a (very poor) picture from my time there...But what a picture, aaaaah de Havilland! :ok:

My first ever flight was in a Rapide. I wonder how many of those in your picture are still around.

Over to you.