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chevvron
6th May 2008, 05:47
Aldermaston?

Warmtoast
6th May 2008, 08:35
Neither Gloucester Staverton or Aldermaston

Arfur Feck-Sake
6th May 2008, 16:58
RAF Grantham/Spitalgate?

Warmtoast
6th May 2008, 17:08
Not RAF Grantham/Spitalgate

Here's a clue.

The airfield is in the UK and the two aircraft to the left of the runway are USAF C-47s

LFT
6th May 2008, 17:13
Culdrose possibly?

Tiger_mate
6th May 2008, 17:17
Burtonwood?

Warmtoast
6th May 2008, 18:21
Not Culdrose and not Burtonwood

KeMac
6th May 2008, 19:31
Bassingbourn

Tiger_mate
6th May 2008, 20:28
Molesworth had resident C47, could it be?

Warmtoast
6th May 2008, 22:36
Sorry - Neither Bassingbourn or Molesworth

Final clue

If you knew this airfield you'd (possibly) associate it with something you would do with a horse

MReyn24050
6th May 2008, 23:38
Very wild quess Hooton Park?

evansb
7th May 2008, 01:39
RAF Horsham St. Faith, presently Norwich International ?

aviate1138
7th May 2008, 07:54
RAF Saltby perhaps, where they used to keep Horsa gliders. :rolleyes:

chevvron
7th May 2008, 08:22
Having another look at the taxiways near 27 threshold and those trees to the north; Bovingdon? C47s were based there until '63.

Warmtoast
7th May 2008, 18:43
Chevvron

Well done. Bovingdon as it was in the summer of 1956.

I was serving with the Fighter Command Communications Squardon (FCCS) and the photo was taken from the cockpit of one of FCCS's Avro Ansons.

Background to Bovingdon

In 1956 RAF Bovingdon was quite a busy station housing both the Fighter Command and Coastal Command Communications Squadrons equipped with Avro Ansons and DH Devons. Servicing was carried out by civilan contractors with only a few RAF ground staff.

In addition the USAF 7531st Air Base Squadron had a detachment based here to service the frequent flights with personnel and freight to the USAF HQ 3rd AF in Ruislip from various USAF bases in Europe. USAF C47s and C123's were regular daily visitors. Also attached was a communications detachment from HQ 3rd AF in Ruislip to provide long-range ATC communications for the USAF. The USAF departed in 1962 and the RAF left the airfield in January 1969.

What used to be the airfield is now occupied by The Mount Prison. Hence my clue as to what you do with a horse - mount it of course!

Bovingdon VOR-DME (BNN), a major navaid for arrivals and departures from the London Terminal area including Heathrow, is still on part of what was the old airfield at Bovingdon. See snaps below.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/BovingdonVOR1.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/BovingdonVOR2.jpg

It's all yours Chevvron - take it away!

chevvron
8th May 2008, 15:09
Well I remember that view from when 613 VGS detached there from Halton in about '67 and I was flying AEG in a Mk3 using runway 27! I did the first launch on the first detachment using the taxiway in front of those trees over to mid right; it was a weekday so we wern't allowed to use the runway.
I vividly remember on many occasions seeing Hercules departing from runway 22 from my home in nearby Chesham; they would appear over the horizon in a near 90 deg bank, 4 trails of black smoke behind them. Then of course we had The War Lover (B17s) 633 Squadron and Mosquito Squadron (both Mosquitos) all filmed there at various times between '61 and '67, with some sequences of The Battle of Britain in '67 too including the radio controlled Stukas.
I also scounged a couple of Anson flights from there; one was piloted by a guy with a badly scarred face (burns? Name of Colbourne?) whose takeoff technique was to hold it on the runway at full thottle then retract the gear without rotating!

Open House

evansb
8th May 2008, 21:15
Here is the next aerodrome:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080508.jpg

seacue
9th May 2008, 01:52
Looks to me as though it is a place where cars drive on the right-hand side of the road. No other guess. Late 30s?

twochai
9th May 2008, 03:19
Not Lethbridge, is it??

evansb
9th May 2008, 05:36
Not Lethbridge. The photos were taken in 1939. Here is an airside view of the same aerodrome. Note the administration building on the left. The previous photo was clearly taken taken from the control tower.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080508a.gif

Tiger_mate
9th May 2008, 06:06
No ideas at present; but isnt it a quaint airport. Manicured gardens, and Art-deco design, it posseses all of the halycon days of aviation long gone in Regional Hubs. The admin buidling includes a Met Ofice (pathway leading off to the 2 oclock on the first photo) and with a terminal built into the base of the tower, my nearest guess would be a United States, Regional Hub, probably now redundant or overlaid in masses of concrete. Reminds me of Braunschwieg in Germany, although I know for sure that it is not.

evansb
9th May 2008, 10:56
Well stated, Tiger mate. The aerodrome was indeed an Eden-like back-water when the photo was taken, (check out the sewer grid on the main apron..) but it has now become an international gateway. The ramshackle collection of buildings on the right-hand side of the photo was a trade-mark of the site's development well into the mid-1960s. Here is an even earlier shot:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/longago.jpg

Tiger_mate
9th May 2008, 20:46
Sea Island Airport

Vancouver

??

evansb
9th May 2008, 21:17
Spot on, Tiger mate:ok::D The first scheduled flights from Vancouver B.C. were in fact international. The flight flew to/from Seattle, Washington. As the airport is built on a Fraser River delta, drainage has always been a problem, and dykes surround most of the island. Some spots are actually at or a few inches below sea level. You have control.

Tiger_mate
9th May 2008, 21:22
Thanks, that was quite a challenge, and it was the hangar in photo 1 that eventually gave the game away. Even after a visit to google earth I was not sure. Back in a min with the next challenge.

Tiger_mate
9th May 2008, 21:42
The year is 1988 and we are in the Northern Hemisphere:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2164/2478508329_881e093a6c_o.jpg
No prizes for the aeroplane and the photos are taken a few seconds apart. The grass really was that green!

A small hint to narrow down the search:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2479274193_e075dedc28.jpg

Tiger_mate
10th May 2008, 14:25
Google Earth of the same:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3107/2479297941_2e3ae85f3e_o.jpg

MReyn24050
10th May 2008, 17:45
A very interesting challenge. The presence of an RAF Puma and the very green airfield makes me think it is in the UK, however the clue aircraft I believe are F86 Sabres and F84 Thunderjets and therefore give me cause to think it is somewhere in Europe, but then the many roundabouts on the roads nearby brings me back to the UK.

TheChitterneFlyer
10th May 2008, 19:08
It has to be Aalborg... RWY 26R

TCF

Tiger_mate
10th May 2008, 19:44
Short finals for 26 L actually, but very well done and quite correct.

Aalborg Denmark

The clues were in parallel runways both equipped with arrestor gear for military operations. The terrain is as flat as the Netherlands, which is where I expected some to venture to as a possible answer. The aircraft sadly do not exist anymore, but in the finest Cold War traditions, were placed as decoy aircraft to tempt a Soviet straffing run. The coastal location would have reduced the options.

TCF: You have control. :D

sycamore
10th May 2008, 20:59
Hi ,Jenks,never saw you as a chalk and walk man !!!!B

TheChitterneFlyer
11th May 2008, 06:10
I only recognised Allborg because of my frequent transits with our ex Open Skies Andovers en-route to Riga/Russia. However, the main picture is indeed 26R; you were obviously short base for t'other one!

I do have quite a few obscure airfields within my files but I don't have a server to put them on; therefore, Open House...

But you're quite correct, there's plenty of chalk in Chitterne!

TCF

norwich
11th May 2008, 10:59
A very easy one to keep things ticking over ?? Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/where7.jpg

evansb
11th May 2008, 19:47
Is this a former USAF base?

norwich
11th May 2008, 19:59
This challenge was a Marine Corps Auxiliary Air Station in 1943 ?
And has a very chequered history ?? Keith

And is exactly (via google earth) 5305.11 miles from Docking ! haha

evansb
11th May 2008, 21:39
Mojave Airport, Antelope Valley, California? A former colleague's husband test flew the Flightcraft Convair 5800 Freighter there several years ago.
The restaurant looks familiar..

norwich
11th May 2008, 21:56
Evansb, You are too familiar with restuarants, and airfields ! well done, it is of course Mojave airport and Spaceport !
The floor is yours Keith :D

evansb
11th May 2008, 22:48
The year is 1960, and we are in the Northern Hemisphere.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080511.gif

FireLight
12th May 2008, 01:29
Hmmm, badge on the Connie is TCA; Trans-Canada Airlines.

I would guess that the location is in British Columbia.

pigboat
12th May 2008, 03:04
Abbotsford?

twochai
12th May 2008, 04:01
TCA 1049G, CPA Britannia and DOT Viscount? That's a pretty impressive lineup for a summer airshow in BC.

Steep terrain looks too close for Abbotsford, Pigboat.

Is it Kelowna??

FireLight
12th May 2008, 04:21
Proximity of railroad would seem to fit with Kelowna, and the bumps in the background wouldn't be inconsistent. I've only flown in there a couple of times a few years ago, so I don't recall the details.

Note of Interest: Google maps shows a Westjet 737 landing on the runway. Also a number of aircraft seem to be in the process of being salvaged as well.

evansb
12th May 2008, 21:10
twochai is correct. Although TCA never served Kelowna, the photo was taken during an open-house celebration of the newly paved runway and taxiway. The Department of Transport Vickers Viscount is also present, as is Canadian Pacific's Bristol Britannia. CPA did serve Kelowna with a Douglas DC-3 for a period. You have control.

pigboat
12th May 2008, 21:54
At least I got the right province this time. Last time I missed Norman Wells by about a thousand miles. :O

evansb
12th May 2008, 23:34
Re FireLight's comments on the Kelowna airport viewed from Google Earth.
Kelowna Flightcraft is a group of companies, one of which operates the Purolator Courier air freight service using Boeing 727 and Convair 580. The airframe division also did the stretch Convair 5800 freighter conversion, and does the cargo door installation on CV580s as well. Check out their web site at flightcraft.ca.

twochai
13th May 2008, 01:23
OK, this will not last long...

(at least it didn't in 1966!)

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk89/twochai/scan0005.jpg

jabberwok
13th May 2008, 02:13
Saba Cove..

FireLight
13th May 2008, 02:17
No specific idea, but it certainly would make you think about overruns. :\

Atlantic perhaps?

-----------------------

Thanks evansb for the link to flightcraft. That explains a lot, and I had no idea we (Canadians) had such a nice operation in Kelowna. :ok:

twochai
13th May 2008, 03:37
Jabberwok has it - Saba it is.

Just as intimidating today as it was 42 years ago - 1300' long from threshold to threshold and downhill in the prevailing wind!

Over to you!


http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk89/twochai/scan0007.jpg

By the way, the road goes up to Bottom, the capital, located in the crater of an extinct volcano.

FireLight
13th May 2008, 05:55
Landing on Saba. Looks like fun. :cool:

Link to video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RU_fk6zNmc&feature=related

Netherlands Antilles, Caribbean

Google Maps Location
17.645351, -63.220718

jabberwok
14th May 2008, 02:51
Sorry to hold the thread up folks - got called away.

Open house as I used all my shots in Which Aerodrome 1..

Dendmar
14th May 2008, 03:25
This will probably go within the hour!!http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk296/Dendmar/AirportTerminalc1957.jpg

KeMac
14th May 2008, 06:03
Shannon ???

LFT
14th May 2008, 06:24
Or Cork even?

Tiger_mate
14th May 2008, 06:37
Birmingham BHX

Dendmar
14th May 2008, 08:12
As I said, didn't take long. Photo taken in 1957 when it was known as Elmdon Airport. Over to you tiger Mate.

India Four Two
14th May 2008, 09:05
What is that strange cantilevered structure? To prevent the rain getting into HP-42 cockpits or some other more mundane purpose?

Tiger_mate
14th May 2008, 14:25
OPEN HOUSE

evansb
14th May 2008, 14:41
Here is the next aerodrome challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080514.jpg

PaperTiger
14th May 2008, 18:05
What is that strange cantilevered structure? To prevent the rain getting into HP-42 cockpits or some other more mundane purpose?Yes that's exactly what it was, although intended to keep the paying gentry dry more than the oiks flying them.

PaperTiger
14th May 2008, 18:07
Key West NAS ?

evansb
14th May 2008, 18:45
Sorry, not Key West.

Tiger_mate
14th May 2008, 19:41
Norfolk VA?

evansb
14th May 2008, 19:59
Not Cherry Point, nor Norfolk.

evansb
15th May 2008, 15:48
Clue: the aerodrome is not in the United States.

evansb
15th May 2008, 16:25
JENKINS is correct:ok: Well done.:D HMCS Shearwater, also known as RCNAS Dartmouth, Nova Scotia. You have control.

Dan Winterland
16th May 2008, 05:26
Jumping in with the offer of open house. It's historic in that it was taken a number of years ago, but I gather the airfield hasn't changed much.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb73/dbchippy/phewitshot.jpg

Shouldn't take long, so no clues yet.

PPRuNe Radar
16th May 2008, 06:53
Death Valley, Furnace Creek ??

Dan Winterland
16th May 2008, 08:13
Correct! An hour and a half!

Furnace Creek (L06) is a place of superlatives. The lowest airfield in the Americas at 211' and the place where the hightest temperature ever recorded in the US at 56 degrees C in 1911.

Also, it's one of the few airfields in the US where you have to pay a landing fee. Although technically, it's the fee payable by any vehicle visiting a National Park. But your $5 also includes free access to the excellent visitor's centre, so it's good value.

You have control.

PPRuNe Radar
17th May 2008, 10:41
A freshly washed airfield ....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/atco10w/Flying/100_4532.jpg

Probably a busy place back in the dark days of WW2

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/atco10w/Flying/mystery.jpg

twochai
17th May 2008, 16:15
Could it be Anchorage International, known today as 'Ted Stevens International'??

Flap40
17th May 2008, 16:34
That's Dinard.

...and why does it say that I posted this at 09:34 when it was actually 17:34 BST (16:34z)

PPRuNe Radar
17th May 2008, 22:50
Flap 40 has control of the runway .....

Dinard St Malo Pleurtuit, home of II/KG27 flying Heinkel 111 during the Battle of Britain

Flap40
18th May 2008, 05:28
Thanks. Open house.

Tiger_mate
18th May 2008, 06:12
The year is 1980:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2298/2500583919_16dc774146_o.jpg

AfgAirOps
18th May 2008, 06:31
Belgrade (Tesla) ?

Phileas Fogg
18th May 2008, 07:16
Seems to be the first letters of 'Ramstein' behind the aircraft?

Tiger_mate
18th May 2008, 07:27
Seems to be the first letters of 'Ramstein' behind the aircraft

Thats observation for you, even I had not noticed that and i took the photograph!

It was indeed a very wet 'Flugtag Ramstein' and the designer 'yellow mac' was iniversally popular throughout europe, except for the UK. Despite a cloudbase of but a few hundred feet, the Red Arrow Hawks arrived on mass and completed an ultra low level break in every which way on arrival.

Oh for the days when there were no crowd barriers between aircraft and spectator in the static park.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2249/2501535618_c01c4751cc.jpg

Phileas Fogg You have control :D

Phileas Fogg
18th May 2008, 07:59
Open House

evansb
18th May 2008, 14:03
The next 'Which Aerodrome?':
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD0805018.jpg

chevvron
18th May 2008, 15:06
Malaga before it was re-built?

evansb
18th May 2008, 15:17
Not Malaga.

Tiger_mate
18th May 2008, 15:50
Tha abundance of Russian aircraft indicates Eastern Europe or a fomer Soviet state, and although it could be an old photograph, it looks too drab for the former East Germany. To narrow down our searches, is it Albania?

The 737? on the left could be a Ukraine International aircraft, on home soil?

evansb
18th May 2008, 16:05
Not Albania, not Ukraine. I think it is a Lufthansa 737.

Phileas Fogg
18th May 2008, 16:35
Lviv or Lvov?

evansb
18th May 2008, 16:58
Not Lvov, Ukraine, although the architecture is similar.

The SSK
18th May 2008, 18:58
Minsk perhaps?

Arfur Feck-Sake
18th May 2008, 19:13
I think it's Koltsovo

evansb
18th May 2008, 19:22
Arfur has it correct:ok: Well done:D Koltsovo Airport, serving the city of (Y)Ekaterinburg, in central Russia. You have control.

Arfur Feck-Sake
18th May 2008, 19:26
Still working on the technology for posting images so Open House

Warmtoast
19th May 2008, 06:20
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/ForWhichAirfield.jpg

A not so new one - I think!

Tiger_mate
19th May 2008, 12:33
a) In UK?

b) Royal Navy?*

c) Yeovilton or Culdrose?

*Based on 3 storie ATC Towers being associated with RN Airfields

Warmtoast
19th May 2008, 18:42
In the UK but not Yeovilton or Culdrose.

Photo dates from c. 1950 as witness the MF/DF loop on the left.

Duckbutt
19th May 2008, 19:34
How about St Mawgan?

Warmtoast
19th May 2008, 20:33
Not St Mawgan.

Arfur Feck-Sake
19th May 2008, 20:36
RNAS Lee-on-Solent?

Warmtoast
19th May 2008, 20:39
Not RNAS Lee-on-Solent and to my knowledge the tower in the photo has no known naval connection.

Duckbutt
19th May 2008, 22:36
Is it by any chance the original Heathrow tower?

Warmtoast
19th May 2008, 22:53
Duckbutt

Is it by any chance the original Heathrow tower?

It is indeed.

Taken in 1949 or 1950 when Heathrow looked like this from the air:

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/Heathrowc19502.jpg

And Heathrow was the only London Airport:

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/Heathrowc1950.jpg

It's yours Duckbutt

Duckbutt
20th May 2008, 08:19
Thanks, your photo looks like a still about 8 minutes into the clip at http://youtube.com/watch?v=o-svhmFd214&feature=related . I was going to be a real smart***e and say that the wingtip in the photo looks like that of BOAC Constellation G-AHEJ but that would be perhaps a bit over the top!

Where do you think this is?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Twyler/100.jpg

aviate1138
20th May 2008, 10:38
Cricklewood?

Duckbutt
20th May 2008, 10:47
Not Cricklewood

PPRuNe Radar
20th May 2008, 12:48
RAF Hendon ?

Duckbutt
20th May 2008, 15:17
Not Hendon nor the Home Counties.

evansb
20th May 2008, 18:17
Mannheim, Germany?

Duckbutt
20th May 2008, 19:22
Not Manheimm but getting warmer.

In the early 1940's there was a connection (in name only) with a colourful aristocrat who died a bit before the photo was taken in the 1920's. I would imagine his name would be familiar to just about everyone on this forum.

norwich
20th May 2008, 19:37
Uuuummm ! FRIEDRIKSHAVEN ??? Keith.

Duckbutt
20th May 2008, 19:51
Sorry Keith, not Friedrikshaven.

Tiger_mate
20th May 2008, 20:32
Germany?

Wiesbaden?

Upyer RRR
20th May 2008, 21:05
Franz Josef? If so, Open House.

Warmtoast
20th May 2008, 22:08
In the early 1940's there was a connection (in name only) with a colourful aristocrat who died a bit before the photo was taken in the 1920's.

I'm guessing the aristocat is Manfred von Richthofen.

The possible 1940s connection is that Jagdgeschwader 2 "Richthofen" was based near the channel coast in France in the early 1940s (Le Touquet-Etaples airfield?)

The location in the photo looks very much like a racecourse, which in the 20s and 30s often served as airfields, and the only place I can think of in the Pas de Calais area that had a flourishing racecouse is Le Touquet Paris-Plage.

So how about Le Touquet?

evansb
20th May 2008, 23:15
Dortmund, Germany.

PPRuNe Radar
21st May 2008, 05:41
Lahr, Germany

denis555
21st May 2008, 06:54
I think evansb has it,,,, Dortmond , home of the Richthofenkaserne airfield???

Duckbutt
21st May 2008, 08:06
Yes evansb has it, photo probably taken at the opening of Dortmund Brackel in 1925 or 6.

As denis555 says, known as Richthofenkaserne during WW2.

evansb has control!

evansb
21st May 2008, 12:34
Here is the next aerodrome challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080521.jpg

PPRuNe Radar
21st May 2008, 12:44
CFB Penhold ?

evansb
21st May 2008, 12:47
You are correct. In record time! RCAF Penhold, just south of Red Deer, Alberta, taken in January 1964. You have control.

PPRuNe Radar
21st May 2008, 12:54
A little bit further back in history ....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/atco10w/Flying/Late1-600.jpg

The SSK
21st May 2008, 13:48
The Latecoere factory at Biscarosse?

PPRuNe Radar
21st May 2008, 15:21
Not sure if it's the factory per se, or the assembly area and the Aeropostale base at Hortiquets ... but it's Biscarrosse lake in any case :ok:

Here's Hortiquets a few weeks ago

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/atco10w/Flying/100_4954.jpg

The SSK
21st May 2008, 15:26
Gosh, my first score in absolutely ages.

There are two aerodromes in this picture:
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d43/TheSSK/AeroPic7.jpg

Flap40
21st May 2008, 15:47
Looks like Daytona to me.

norwich
21st May 2008, 16:36
I will try OSCEOLA Naval Outer Landing Field. Fla. ??? Keith

The SSK
21st May 2008, 18:57
Looks like Daytona to me.

I will try OSCEOLA Naval Outer Landing Field. Fla.

Neither, nor

Web-Footed Flyer
22nd May 2008, 14:36
Talladega Race Track Alabama

Open house if right!

The SSK
22nd May 2008, 15:06
Yes, that’s it. The speedway is built over Anniston AFB and the active airfield to the right is Talladega Municipal.

norwich
22nd May 2008, 18:47
Well a few hours and no takers, something a little different, possibly more to do with characters than airfields, see what happens ? Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/where8.jpg

Tiger_mate
22nd May 2008, 19:01
RAF Tibenham?

Flap40
22nd May 2008, 19:51
Don't know who they are but I will take a guess at Twinwood Farm.

norwich
22nd May 2008, 20:03
Sorry people neither Tibbenham or Twinwood, easier than that ???? Keith.

Avitor
22nd May 2008, 20:20
A well known squadron commander at Molesworth?

norwich
22nd May 2008, 20:24
A well known person (rank unknown to me) but not at molesworth ??? Keith.

twochai
22nd May 2008, 20:31
Looks like Major(?) Jimmy Stewart at a USAAF base 'somewhere in England'?

norwich
22nd May 2008, 20:39
Twochai, has the name correct, I understand (from local folklaw) that, because of his status, he visited a lot of local US bases, this pic is from his actual base ???? Keith.

Roland Pulfrew
22nd May 2008, 20:47
I thought Jimmy Stewart was based at Tibenham. If not there, how about Chelveston?

Edited to add:

Why does it say my post was logged at 1347? It should read 2147!!

Tiger_mate
22nd May 2008, 21:35
Old Buckenham

T'internet says I am right and if so:

Open House

PaperTiger
22nd May 2008, 21:58
Or Hethel; he flew from both.

Other chap looks like Gen. Patrick Timberlake (BG Cdr) but I don't know why he'd be out of uniform.

norwich
22nd May 2008, 23:00
Sorry for this delay people, work got in the way, I seriously hope I am not wrong with this, I have also read somewhere of him being based at Tibbenham, but due to the more often quoted fact that he was at "this" place I have always gone with it ? Also have been there and seen the display of photos of him there ! But this could all be "folk lore" (thanks for the spelling lesson) !

Edit .... Panic situation ! following my lapse from the forum, didn't read all of the posts and yes Tiger Mate is correct ! the photo is from Old Buckenham, where I understand he was based ? If this is not correct then I humbly apologise, as I said earlier I think he "did the rounds" whilst there ! Keith.

India Four Two
23rd May 2008, 04:20
Next aerodrome:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/wa23may08.jpg

evansb
23rd May 2008, 04:41
RAF Changi, Singapore ?

India Four Two
23rd May 2008, 04:53
Bri, you are correct and I have just noticed that it has been done before.

However, in mitigation, I only checked the C's in Mel's list and didn't notice that it is in fact there under RAF Changi.

Mel, perhaps you could remove the prefixes from the list to avoid this kind of repetition?

evansb
23rd May 2008, 05:13
Here is the next aerodrome challenge:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080523.jpg

Tiger_mate
23rd May 2008, 06:11
Coronados and Catalinas at RAF Darrell's Island, Bermuda.

Open House after confirmation

MReyn24050
23rd May 2008, 09:40
Mel, perhaps you could remove the prefixes from the list to avoid this kind of repetition?

If it helps, at the next update I will remove the RAF as a prefix and attach it at the end of the i.e. Changi (RAF), Singapore.
Mel

India Four Two
23rd May 2008, 10:09
Mel,

Thanks. I think that would be very useful.

I42

evansb
23rd May 2008, 14:09
Tiger_mate is correct:ok:. As the man said, it is open house.

Flap40
23rd May 2008, 16:19
If I may jump in...

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj36/jodel_bucket/wherecopy.jpg

I've had to edit ot the name on the hangar.

PaperTiger
23rd May 2008, 19:52
The "terminal" looks like Sywell, but that may have been a common design at the time.

A Gypsy and 2 Pusses. Aaah, de Havilland.

Flap40
23rd May 2008, 20:04
Sorry, not Sywell.

Flap40
23rd May 2008, 21:13
I am fairly certain that the terminal no longer exists. Parts of the airfield are still visible.

PaperTiger
23rd May 2008, 21:14
Not a minibus Jenkins, that's how big (small) a normal single-deck bus was back then. Although it doesn't look really ancient, immediate post-war period perhaps. Not a Bedford OB, some kind of Commer maybe. If that helps :8 .

Arfur Feck-Sake
23rd May 2008, 21:31
Lympne Airport?

Flap40
23rd May 2008, 22:14
We had Lympne back in December. This airport has not yet featured in this quiz.

You are in the correct country though.

Flap40
23rd May 2008, 22:17
Sorry, not Ipswich either.

chevvron
24th May 2008, 10:55
Maylands (Romford) now a golf course.

Flap40
24th May 2008, 11:12
Not Romford either.

You are all too far east.

chevvron
24th May 2008, 13:13
OK moving west slowly, how about Broxbourne?

evansb
24th May 2008, 15:59
Whitchurch, Bristol Airport.

Flap40
24th May 2008, 16:24
It is Whitchurch.

621andy
24th May 2008, 18:19
Bluddy hell thats changed a bit! I used to live near there, and wouldn't recognise it in a million years from that picture:rolleyes: All housing estates and chavs there now- certainly don't leave your car unlocked if you want to snap a pic of the airfield now:=

Still a fair bit of it remaining last time I was there. We used to use it to test inflate balloons when Ashton Court was too wet in the winter when I worked for Cameron Balloons- bit too exposed though...

evansb
24th May 2008, 18:20
That was an interesting challenge. I find this forum very educational. Here is the next aerodrome:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080524.jpg

India Four Two
24th May 2008, 18:48
Nice picture, Bri. No rain and low clouds, for a change!

Tofino in the Pacific Rim National Park, Vancouver Island. Flew in there once in a BC Airlines Mallard.

evansb
24th May 2008, 20:17
India Four Two is corrrect:ok:. Tofino was established during WW.II as a coastal patrol base. You have control.

India Four Two
24th May 2008, 20:31
Another maritime airfield on a much smaller island:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WA23May0802.jpg



Sorry about the poor resolution. The original image was quite small and I had to crop it to remove some obvious clues. It's the only picture I could find of this very interesting airfield, which I first noticed on Google Earth.

India Four Two
25th May 2008, 14:44
Here are the first two clues.

1. It is 18 nm from one of the world's top twenty busiest airports.

2. It has a hard surfaced runway, but it does not appear on the World Aeronautical Chart.

Cubs2jets
25th May 2008, 16:23
The RSAF Auxilliary field on Pulau Sudong.

C2j

India Four Two
25th May 2008, 18:41
C2j, that's the one - Pulau Sudong http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulau_Sudong

I figured you might get it. You must have flown past it quite frequently.

Here's the original image with the RSAF Black Knights aerobatic team (Red and White Knights would be a better name):

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/RSAF_Black_Knights__Pulau_Sudong.jpg

and here's an image from Google Earth:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/Singapore-1.jpg


It still amazes me that there are five (six if you count Pulau Sudong) operational airfields on an island that is only 80% larger than the Isle of Wight. And just for insurance purposes, there is the emergency runway on the East Coast Parkway near Changi.

C2j, I was surprised that Pulau Sudong is not on the WAC. Does it show on the Jeppesen charts?

I42

Cubs2jets
25th May 2008, 23:04
India Four Two,

You forgot the emergency runway next to Tengah AND the additional (new) runway next to Changi which is military and NOT connected to the main airport. The RSAF actually uses the road next to Tengah once a year in a practice. The runway that is part of the East Coast Parkway near Changi has never been used to my knowledge.

I don't have a Jepp area chart at hand so cannot say it the runway is depicted on it. The commercially available ONC chart (VFR) that includes Singapore is grossly out of date (like 1973). My understanding is that updates for these U.S. Government printed charts sometimes are not done at the request of the underlying country (countries). A bit silly when we now have Google Earth (though some of that is not high-res for similar reasons).

So, here is the next "Which Aerodrome". If this isn't identified wihtin an hour, all regular participants have to miss a turn! ;)

C2j

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/Cubs2jets/Picture4A.jpg?t=1211756606

India Four Two
26th May 2008, 03:32
You forgot the emergency runway next to Tengah AND the additional (new) runway next to Changi which is military and NOT connected to the main airport. The RSAF actually uses the road next to Tengah once a year in a practice. The runway that is part of the East Coast Parkway near Changi has never been used to my knowledge.

I've never ventured out to the wilds of NW Singapore, so I didn't know about the Tengah emergency runway. I knew that the new runway at Changi East was military only, but I have read that it will be extended to become Changi's third runway.

I think you are right about the ECP runway. Apart from bulldozing out of the way all of the concrete flower boxes in the median , a lot of tree-cutting would be required, so I think it would have to be a very serious situation before it was used.

I downloaded the WAC from the CAAS website, so I presume it is relatively up to date (I don't have access to it as I type this). However, Pulau Sudong is not referred to in the AIM, but all the other military fields are. Very strange.

So, here is the next "Which Aerodrome". If this isn't identified wihtin an hour, all regular participants have to miss a turn!

Well, not quite within the hour, but within 10 minutes of logging on.
I thought initially Phuket, but after a bit of searching and head-scratching, I remembered Bali. It's Ngurah Rai International from overhead Kuta. Open house if correct.

Cubs2jets
26th May 2008, 12:21
India Four Two is correct! He has declared "OPEN HOUSE"

C2j

PS Thanks for the PM. Those are funny links.

Warmtoast
26th May 2008, 12:42
Where is this one?

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/CB-GeneralView-Cropped.jpg

evansb
26th May 2008, 14:29
RAF Trincomalee, China Bay, Ceylon ?

ARCHIE1
26th May 2008, 18:29
I would agree - RAF Trincomalee. Right road layout, accommodation blocks and hangars (except the left hand one which appears, on Google Earth, to have been demolished). There's what looks like a Bristol Freighter bottom left - could the RNZAF have reached there from Malaya? Perhaps not; perhaps it's a Valetta. Strangest thing comes to mind - some 25 years ago I lived in a town in Oxfordshire next door to an old chap who had been Orderly Room Corporal for a flying boat squadron based at Trincomalee during WWII. He remembered drafting the CO's letters of condolence to the families of a 'boat crew lost over the Indian Ocean between Malaya and Ceylon. Then he found, at a squadron reunion, that the Flight Engineer's son lived just round the corner from us .......

Warmtoast
26th May 2008, 20:47
Well that didn't last long!

RAF China Bay as it was in 1957.



http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/ChinaBay.jpg

ARCHIE1

There's what looks like a Bristol Freighter bottom left - could the RNZAF have reached there from Malaya? Perhaps not; perhaps it's a Valetta

In 1957 RAF Changi based Bristol Freighters of 41 Sqn Royal New Zealand Air Force shared the weekly Singapore to Negombo (Katunayake) Ceylon (Sri Lanka) shuttle with RAF (48 and 52 Sqn). Valettas.
RNZAF 41 Sqn Freighter below, with an engine that looks as if it leaks oil like an Iraqi oil well!


http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/NZ5906.jpg
Standard routing was Changi - Butterworth (sometimes) - Car Nicobar - Negombo (Katunayake). Next day they flew up and back to China Bay with pax, mail and freight for the RAF detachment at China Bay and the Royal Navy base at Trincomalee.

A bit of China Bay WWII history. On 10-11th August 1944 54 USAAF B.29's flew from China Bay against the Palembang oil refineries in Japanese occupied Sumatra - the 3,900 miles flight from Ceylon to Palembang and back was the longest single-stage flight undertaken by USAAF combat aircraft in WWII. Long-range RAF B.24 Liberators and Catalinas also flew supply and agent dropping missions from China Bay in support of SOE operations in Burma and Malaya.

evansb
26th May 2008, 22:04
Great photos and historical information!:ok: Here is the next aerodrome challenge:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080526.jpg

evansb
28th May 2008, 00:10
Clue: This aerodrome was the objective of a little-known but important battle during 1942.

The SSK
28th May 2008, 06:45
Looks very Dutch or Belgian to me, I guess that's the Channel/North Sea coastline in the background?

evansb
28th May 2008, 17:43
Sorry SSK, not the North Sea. Not Belgium, nor the Netherlands.

India Four Two
28th May 2008, 19:27
How about another clue, Bri?

You said 1942, so is the location Asia/Pacific?

evansb
28th May 2008, 20:09
Sorry, not the Asia/Pacific Theatre. The site is presently a modern airport that goes by a different name. The WW.II era aircraft dispersals are faintly visible on Google Earth

India Four Two
29th May 2008, 01:26
I needed a Torch to find this airfield! ;)

Port Lyautey (now Kenitra), Morrocco. Very good challenge, bri.

Open house after confirmation by evansb.

evansb
29th May 2008, 02:32
India Four Two is spot on:ok: Well done:D In November of 1942 combined U.S. military forces stormed the beaches at Port Lyautey in French Morrocco. They fought a numerically inferior French force, and secured the airfield and surrounding villages and town 3 days later. Yes, they fought the French. As the Captain says, its open house!

India Four Two
29th May 2008, 04:10
Yes, they fought the French

Amazing what you can learn on the Internet. The Vichy French forces put up a strong resistance in Morrocco and Oran, Algeria, but in Algiers, the Resistance arrested the Vichy leaders on 8th November, the first day of Operation Torch and three days later, the Vichy leaders were persuaded to end hostilities.

This must have been the quickest conclusion of a seaborne invasion in history.

India Four Two
29th May 2008, 15:47
No takers? How about this one?

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/29May08.jpg

Tiger_mate
29th May 2008, 17:13
RAF Burtonwood

India Four Two
29th May 2008, 17:29
Tiger_mate has it. Over to you.

I had to double check to make sure it really was Burtonwood. The tower was unlike anything I had ever seen before in the UK.

Tiger_mate
29th May 2008, 21:12
I spent several years of my youth as a member of an Air Cadet Gliding school there and knew the place pretty well. Subsidence from coal mining contributed to its demise as the USAF airhead in the UK, a role which Mildenhall took on. I may even have been on the crew of the last military aircraft to land there before developers took over, but that is a story in itself.

Sadly I cannot be around to update another airfield, and therefore hand it over as an: OPEN HOUSE

621andy
29th May 2008, 21:24
Ok, here's a quick one...

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg244/621andy/aaaa2.jpg

PPRuNe Radar
29th May 2008, 21:27
Lauterbrunnen.

Open house if correct :ok:

621andy
29th May 2008, 21:44
Well I said it was a quick one, but didm't expect it to be quite as quick as that:D

Was up there yesterday and snapped the shot. Setting famous for the Bond film 'On Her Majesties Secret Service'- I think the ice driving scenes were shot in Lauterbrunnen although I'm open to correction on that one:8

Warmtoast
30th May 2008, 09:03
As its open house another one from me.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/ThornhillATC.jpg

KeMac
30th May 2008, 12:09
eerrr -Thornhill???

Simtech
30th May 2008, 12:23
Just as an aside, the Burtonwood control tower met its fate at the hands of the late, great Fred Dibnah in, I think, 1988.

621andy
30th May 2008, 12:36
Likewise, errr, Thornhill:bored:;)

denis555
30th May 2008, 15:02
Now let me see…

Jeep has a Rhodesian registration….

Aec Matador behind it has African canvas top…

Could it be Thornhill ???:ok::}:O;)

evansb
30th May 2008, 18:25
Is the controller flashing the Aldis lamp at the photographer?

Warmtoast
30th May 2008, 20:19
KeMac has it in one.

RAF Thornhill (5FTS) Rhodesia as it was in 1952.

And someone was shining the Aldis lamp, just to annoy I reckon.

KeMac
30th May 2008, 20:38
Thank you Warmtoast

Open House

India Four Two
31st May 2008, 06:52
A very interesting recent history associated with this picture.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WA31May2008.jpg

T-21
31st May 2008, 11:40
Leiston airfield ,in Suffolk home of the 357th Fighter Group. Chuck Yeager flew P-51's there in WW2.

T-21
31st May 2008, 11:57
Could it be to do with Bud Anderson who also flew P-51's there as well "The Yoxford Boys"

India Four Two
31st May 2008, 12:02
Well done, T-21. Leiston it is. Not much left today:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/Leistongoogle.jpg

I didn't know Yeager flew there. As T-21 has guessed, the history I was referring to can be found here:

http://www.cebudanderson.com/duxford.htm

I hope when I'm in my eighties, people would still be prepared to lend me any aeroplane, never mind a P-51!

Over to you, T-21

T-21
31st May 2008, 12:14
Sorry I'am at work and no access to my records.

Simtech
31st May 2008, 14:08
Chuck Yeager, Bud Anderson, Kit Carson, John England and Richard Peterson (to name but a few) all flew with the 357th FG from Leiston.

An area I know well - Mrs Simtech comes from Leiston.

evansb
1st Jun 2008, 14:56
It has been 24 hours since the last post. Here is the next 'Which Aerodrome?' challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080601.jpg

ScrewedbyGlenn
1st Jun 2008, 17:06
I believe that's the Renton, Wa strip that Boeing uses for 37 manufacture. If correct, open house.:8

evansb
1st Jun 2008, 17:12
Yes, it is Renton, Washington,:ok: KRNT, renamed Clayton Scott Field in 2005.

India Four Two
2nd Jun 2008, 18:40
OK. I seem to be on a P-51 roll at the moment. It's always a bit of a surprise to me to see colour photos from WWII.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WA1June08-1.jpg

twochai
2nd Jun 2008, 19:26
I have no clue where it might be, but what a wonderful 'atmospheric' shot!

India Four Two
2nd Jun 2008, 19:41
twochai, I agree. I thought for a minute, it might be a movie set, but there are too many P-51s. It must be the real McCoy. I'm just waiting for the FG Code specialists to pounce and tell us not only the airfield, but the names of the pilots and crew chiefs ;)

T-21
2nd Jun 2008, 19:58
356th Fg at Martlesham Heath. Guys I am on a 12 hour night shift and tomorrow so sorry I cannot send in a picture.

India Four Two
2nd Jun 2008, 20:24
Martlesham Heath it is. See here http://www.web-birds.com/8th/356/356th.htm

and here
http://www.littlefriends.co.uk/gallery.php?Group=356


Open house, since T-21 is on night shifts and cannot post.

PPRuNe Radar
2nd Jun 2008, 22:39
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/atco10w/Flying/100_5212.jpg

I think P51s flew from here as well !! It didn't look all that different in 1943

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/atco10w/arr.jpg

twochai
3rd Jun 2008, 01:27
I don't like to be picky, PPruNe Radar, but there are clearly two airfields in your upper photo. Which one is the object of your challenge??

chevvron
3rd Jun 2008, 06:19
How about the one that's not Wattisham?

PPRuNe Radar
3rd Jun 2008, 06:20
Just use the black and white one if it's too confusing :ok:

It's not near Wattisham.

chevvron
3rd Jun 2008, 08:26
OK the one that's not Colerne then! (otherwise known as Charmy Down)

PPRuNe Radar
3rd Jun 2008, 09:57
Chevvron has it :ok:

chevvron
3rd Jun 2008, 10:01
Whilst I have many pictures of various airfields, regretfully I have no way of posting them so Open House.

evansb
3rd Jun 2008, 16:04
Here is the next 'Which Aerodrome?':
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WAD080603.jpg

Kieron Kirk
3rd Jun 2008, 17:08
Vaenga, near Murmansk, Soviet Union.

evansb
3rd Jun 2008, 17:13
Kirk is spot on:ok: You have control.

Kieron Kirk
3rd Jun 2008, 17:18
Many thanks evansb, could I throw it open to anyone who has a suitable airfield photo.

twochai
3rd Jun 2008, 17:26
Here's one that shouldn't last long, not quite as old as Kirk Kieron's contribution, but interesting:


http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk89/twochai/WhichAerodrome1.jpg

Kieron Kirk
3rd Jun 2008, 17:31
I never thought that my parents decided my first name should be Kirk!

In future I shall sign myself "Ciarain".

Standby to be confused!

Moira
3rd Jun 2008, 20:19
Sort of a wild guess: Mingbo.
Or would that be too high?

twochai
3rd Jun 2008, 21:06
Sorry, not Mingbo.

Moira
3rd Jun 2008, 21:20
Another try in the same region: Syangboche?

twochai
3rd Jun 2008, 21:30
Very well done, Moira, it is the fabled Shyangboche. :ok:

Located just below Namche Bazaar, on the way to Everest Base Camp, the airstrip is at a height of 12,204'/3720 metres, with a runway length of 1300'. Used regularly by helicopters (Mi17) and Pilatus PC-6 Porter aircraft. A Twin Otter landed a couple of times, but too short/high for commercial ops.

Not the highest in the world, but challenging.

Over to you, Moira.

Moira
3rd Jun 2008, 21:42
Thanks Twochai!
I'm afraid this one won't last long either ...

Sorry guys, I know a similar picture was posted quite recently, but it's the only one I had available right now.

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj271/AnnStevens/WAD20080503.jpg?t=1212529216

Upyer RRR
4th Jun 2008, 13:01
Could it be RAF Kinloss?

Moira
4th Jun 2008, 14:28
Sorry, not Kinloss.
This is what's left nowadays:

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj271/AnnStevens/WADextra.gif?t=1212602192

S'land
4th Jun 2008, 19:04
Rivenhall or Birch?

Moira
4th Jun 2008, 19:45
Slighty too much south.
(Goodness, I hope my geography isn't letting me down!) :)

It's now used for racing of some kind.

chevvron
4th Jun 2008, 19:50
Definite resemblance to Bradwell, but not quite......

Moira
4th Jun 2008, 19:56
Not in Essex, so not Bradwell Bay either.

chevvron
4th Jun 2008, 20:05
Got it - Kimbolton!!! Was racking my brains over the Kart circuit.

Moira
4th Jun 2008, 20:18
Well done, Chevvron, Kimbolton it is! :ok:

The Kimbolton kart circuit is laid out on one of the few existing parts of the airfield. The original circuit was laid out direct on the concrete dispersal area. Many parts of this can still be seen today around the track and paddock.

Over to you!

chevvron
4th Jun 2008, 20:28
There also used to be a private airstrip there a few years ago; arrival instructions went something like 'if sheep are grazing, circle over the village of Stow Longa until someone appears to clear them'!!
Open House again I'm afraid (must be some sort of record two pages opening with me being congratulated - mind you I'm not as good as sabredog!)

Warmtoast
4th Jun 2008, 21:14
An easy one this time. I feel sure its been done before.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/BOBFilm.jpg

PaperTiger
4th Jun 2008, 21:47
Dahhhh, dah, dah, daaah, DAH dah dah dah !

MReyn24050
5th Jun 2008, 09:57
Where the German part of the film "Battle of Britain" was filmed. Tablada airfield Spain perhaps?

Moira
5th Jun 2008, 10:06
Paper Tiger, for those like me who are completely morse-code ignorant that would be? :O :)

Some of the H-111 scenes were shot in Duxford ...

Warmtoast
5th Jun 2008, 10:33
Where the German part of the film "Battle of Britain" was filmed. Tablada airfield Spain perhaps?


MReyn has it.

Photo taken in April 1968 at Tablada airfield during the filming of the scene “an inspection by Field Marshall Erhard Milch” for the film "The Battle of Britain". Heinkel He 111s (licence-built Spanish CASA 2.111s).
The staff cars are Mercedes - except for the last one, which appears to be a Fiat and apart from the deep-chinned RR Merlin engines, an impressive re-enactment.

MReyn24050
5th Jun 2008, 11:32
Thanks warmtoast. Here is the next one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Airport/Airportquiz038.jpg

LFT
5th Jun 2008, 11:44
How about Swinderby?

MReyn24050
5th Jun 2008, 12:09
Not Swinderby or Acklington
Mel

MReyn24050
5th Jun 2008, 13:24
This airfield is as you suggest located in the NE of England but not as far North as Ouston or
Acklington
Mel

ZH875
5th Jun 2008, 13:31
Middleton St George, as my only other guess was Church Fenton but that is not exactly NE.