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ATNotts 27th Dec 2021 11:12


Originally Posted by Harold77 (Post 11161302)
Teesside can support a London service and has done very well in the past. The current situation is none of the air industry making. Covid has knocked the bottom out of everywhere, foreign travel decimated, offices working from home etc.

We just need to see Covid restrictions removed, freer travel allowed and everything getting back to normal. Only once things have returned to normal then comparisons can be made.

Things will get back to a "new normal" in which businesses think not twice, but three times, before permitting travel by employees. The first option is likely to be Teams or whatever other platform they choose to use. Sure, there'll still be business travel but not the same level as pre-pandemic, but I suspect that when all the obstacles that are currently stacked up to make overseas leisure travel even more of a ball-ache than it had become over recent years leisure travel will quickly recover. Will that be in 2022? Probably not.

If Flybe are to make a fist of the new operation it will need to be on the tried and tested routes, where there isn't competition, rather than chasing subsidies (bribes) from this that and the other airport to open up bases. That really worked well for the former incarnation didn't it? Think Doncaster and Cardiff! The scattergun approach is essentially making the same mistakes as before, and if businesses don't learn from other's mistakes then they will fail.

SKOJB 27th Dec 2021 11:56


Originally Posted by BHX5DME (Post 11161323)
Teeside wont be in FlyBe2's plans at all in my opinion, in fact I can only see BHX in the short to medium term.

Have heard whispers that SOU is in BE2's plans sooner rather than later!

MARKEYD 27th Dec 2021 12:13

Cant imagine Southampton jumping for joy about that to be honest

Jamie2009 27th Dec 2021 17:25

Given a fella has just announced on LinkedIn hes the new flybe air crew manager in Belfast I think the first two bases are almost certainly BHX and BHD.

Local Variation 27th Dec 2021 20:14


Originally Posted by Jamie2009 (Post 11161416)
Given a fella has just announced on LinkedIn hes the new flybe air crew manager in Belfast I think the first two bases are almost certainly BHX and BHD.

It's not me in case you were wondering 😉

Alteagod 28th Dec 2021 09:57

Seems reasonable but i think it just said Belfast not BHD or BFS. Emerald and Flybe2 at same airport under current covid life......carnage

Citrine 30th Dec 2021 06:28

Virgin have just announced a partnership with easyjet to feed into there longhaul operation ..... you would think they would offer some support to the new flybe since they pulled the plug on it March 2020. What a kick in the teeth hey!!!

SWBKCB 30th Dec 2021 06:35


Originally Posted by Citrine (Post 11162350)
Virgin have just announced a partnership with easyjet to feed into there longhaul operation ..... you would think they would offer some support to the new flybe since they pulled the plug on it March 2020. What a kick in the teeth hey!!!

How much did Virgin lose on the original BE deal?

davidjohnson6 30th Dec 2021 07:11

How much flying does Virgin do at BHX and the rumoured other Flybe bases of BHD and SOU ? Not a lot...

BACsuperVC10 30th Dec 2021 07:30


Originally Posted by Jamie2009 (Post 11161416)
Given a fella has just announced on LinkedIn hes the new flybe air crew manager in Belfast I think the first two bases are almost certainly BHX and BHD.

BHD - LPL maybe a possibility, not served presently.

ATNotts 30th Dec 2021 08:38


Originally Posted by BACsuperVC10 (Post 11162381)
BHD - LPL maybe a possibility, not served presently.

A lot more tenable than many of the ideas floated on some other threads. Ready market and (presently) without competition.

Asturias56 30th Dec 2021 09:11

"Virgin have just announced a partnership with easyjet to feed into there longhaul operation ..... you would think they would offer some support to the new flybe since they pulled the plug on it March 2020. What a kick in the teeth hey!!!"

Virgin never had any emotional investment in Flybe - and any new Flybe is going to have to be so different from the last one it really doesn't impact

Citrine 30th Dec 2021 13:10


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 11162368)
How much flying does Virgin do at BHX and the rumoured other Flybe bases of BHD and SOU ? Not a lot...

Well so far folk have announced that bhd and manch are on the cards for flybe....and guess what that's where virgin are partnering with easy!!!! and for the one who quoted virgin had no emotional attachment to flybe. Well I hope you never get made redundant overnight and get dumped on!!! Virgin tried there hand at shorthaul flying with little red and failed and failed again with flybe. Only folk who have gone through redundancy will understand the mental strain it has had on people !!!!😡😡

Asturias56 31st Dec 2021 08:10

Citirine _ i didn't say I agreed with what Virgin did with FlyBe - it was pretty disgraceful - my point is that Virgin have never really had any interest in Flybe and to assume they'd cut a deal with an airline which is not yet flying as opposed to EasyJet - which is - is not very likely.

I have been on the thick end of a couple of takeovers - I agree it's a very unpleasant and bruising experience which very adversely impacted the physical and mental health of a number of very close colleagues

Winston Fumble 6th Jan 2022 14:19

From what I have seen on this website, I thought the relaunch of Flybe was due in March, presumably, at the start of the summer schedule - thus far all Ive seen regarding this, is a shareholder wanting to offload his investment of 45 million before the proposed re start of the airline.

Surely, if the new Flybe was serious in starting up again in just a few weeks from now, there would have been a lot of press coverage regarding a start dates and routes etc. Have I missed something?

southamptonavgeek 7th Jan 2022 09:24

Delivery
 
G-JECY added to the Flybe AOC and is on its way into the UK now.

SWBKCB 7th Jan 2022 09:49


Originally Posted by southamptonavgeek (Post 11166591)
G-JECY added to the Flybe AOC and is on its way into the UK now.

Yes - Exeter not Birmingham

Citrine 8th Jan 2022 08:53


Originally Posted by Winston Fumble (Post 11166208)
From what I have seen on this website, I thought the relaunch of Flybe was due in March, presumably, at the start of the summer schedule - thus far all Ive seen regarding this, is a shareholder wanting to offload his investment of 45 million before the proposed re start of the airline.

Surely, if the new Flybe was serious in starting up again in just a few weeks from now, there would have been a lot of press coverage regarding a start dates and routes etc. Have I missed something?

No you havent missed anything ...... we all wait for the big route announcement.

Winston Fumble 9th Jan 2022 15:31


Originally Posted by Citrine (Post 11167068)
No you havent missed anything ...... we all wait for the big route announcement.

Thank you Citrine, guess theyd better get a move on then, time is ticking away.

BHX5DME 9th Jan 2022 17:51


Originally Posted by Winston Fumble (Post 11167600)
Thank you Citrine, guess theyd better get a move on then, time is ticking away.

Not long to wait :-)


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