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TURIN 10th May 2019 09:47


Originally Posted by inOban (Post 10466552)
I'd never seen the word sortation before it appeared in earlier posts. Much worse than deplane.

Me neither, just had to look it up as it has appeared again in the posts above.
At least its in the dictionary. But so is de-p***e.
Sortation-meaning

boredintheairport 11th May 2019 18:57


Originally Posted by nighthawk117 (Post 10468152)
While I agree that what Scotland needs is a single, central belt airport, I dont think it would make much difference here. The main market for this flight is inbound Chinese tourists, many of which tend to book as part of a package tour. What airport they fly in to is irrelevant - as they'll be boarding a pre-booked bus and will be whisked off to the first of their many destinations - probably Edinburgh to start anyway, then on to other destinations around Scotland.

Any business travel, or Scottish tourists heading to Beijing will just be a happy extra, but certainly not the main market for this flight. As such, I don't think a single central airport would make much difference in this case.

As for the United / Delta examples - i'm not convinced. Look at Manchester, with its much larger catchment, yet it's still narrowbody central to the US. With the exception of the United flight which upgraded this year, it's all 757s. These aircraft are perfect for operating flights to the UK, freeing up widebodies for flights further in to Europe.

I cannot think of any narrow body flights to the U.S. from Manchester. You are very out of date.

it's A330 and 747 to Atlanta and New York in combinations and A330 to the remaining airports of Boston, Las Vegas and LA.

Rutan16 11th May 2019 20:02

MANCHESTER has just two US carrier operated flights a day since Delta seceded Atlanta and JFK to their UK branch with a mix of A332 AND 744 aircraft .

UNITED are operating daily Newark on a refurbished 763 at the moment whilst American have canned JFK (an ongoing process from them in dehubbing New York to focus on a very few major O&D markets) and as of this month reduced capacity on their remaining Philadelphia daily having switched to a now rather old and on its last legs 763 operation though the summer. Itís supposed to switch to a 788 Dreamliner later in the year however I await with baited breath as these are in short supply and mostly at Chicago right now.




PDXCWL45 11th May 2019 21:29


Originally Posted by boredintheairport (Post 10469128)
I cannot think of any narrow body flights to the U.S. from Manchester. You are very out of date.

it's A330 and 747 to Atlanta and New York in combinations and A330 to the remaining airports of Boston, Las Vegas and LA.

I believe recently United ended the last 757 flight to Manchester and replaced it with a 767 300/400 to operate the Newark route. Manchester is now all widebody across the Atlantic including Canada.

TURIN 13th May 2019 10:44


Originally Posted by Rutan16 (Post 10469170)
MANCHESTER has just two US carrier operated flights a day since Delta seceded Atlanta and JFK to their UK branch with a mix of A332 AND 744 aircraft .

UNITED are operating daily Newark on a refurbished 763 at the moment whilst American have canned JFK (an ongoing process from them in dehubbing New York to focus on a very few major O&D markets) and as of this month reduced capacity on their remaining Philadelphia daily having switched to a now rather old and on its last legs 763 operation though the summer. Itís supposed to switch to a 788 Dreamliner later in the year however I await with baited breath as these are in short supply and mostly at Chicago right now.




The 787 has been pushed back to January 2020.

CabinCrewe 14th May 2019 09:12

Cathay Pacific HKG to stay A350-1000 Year round instead of reducing to W19/20 A350-900

chaps1954 14th May 2019 10:07

I`ve noticed that they keep slipping the odd A350X already not June as they said as there is one in today

Skipness One Foxtrot 14th May 2019 11:58


Crew need to man the doors if refuelling so it's just easier to get them all off.
Pretty sure it's mandated under DfT rules that they need to reclear security before they can depart on a double drop run. It's why they really went out of fashion.Watched a 1/2 load on an Air Transat A330 sleepily troop off at Glasgow, go up a flight of stairs through gate security and then join the queue to reboard the same aircraft bound for MAN.

spannersatcx 14th May 2019 17:15


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 10470833)
Cathay Pacific HKG to stay A350-1000 Year round instead of reducing to W19/20 A350-900

incorrect, 1000 comes back on 1st Dec, before that the 900 operates.

spannersatcx 14th May 2019 17:16


Originally Posted by chaps1954 (Post 10470884)
I`ve noticed that they keep slipping the odd A350X already not June as they said as there is one in today

It's whatever equipment is available, mostly changes are due to AOG's, the flt is still sold as a 900.

Scottie Dog 15th May 2019 21:25

Manchester Statistics - March 2019

Destinations that are either new (no passengers since my records started in January 2005), or have not been served for a number of years - if the latter then the month and year of the last service is shown.

No new destinations were served in March 2019.

Million passenger routes (Rolling annual figures)
Amsterdam - 1,045,310 passengers

The following domestic statistics are missing from the CAA report for March.
Isle of Man does not appear in the initial report. In 2018 they had 13,938 passengers

Moving monthly and annual figures - based on CAA statistics/MAG statistics
Monthly passengers - 2,067,950 +3.38%
Annual Total - 5,659,146
Moving Annual Total - 28,657,684 +2.42%
Monthly Movements - 15,131 +0.74%
Annual Movements - 42.002
Moving Annual Movements - 201,680 -0.26%

Top 25 destinations - by passenger numbers
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c28bd4d742.png

Top 25 destinations with highest percentage increase.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....478ea15890.png

Figures for the European and long haul destinations that I consider to be the main points for our connecting traffic.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....70101241d7.png

Comparison of top 25 destinations - March 2009 versus March 2019
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fec9819b38.png

Major changes to Domestic traffic
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....526cb07c4d.png
The CAA figure for Isle of Man is missing.
CAA statistics for March are provisional.

Navpi 16th May 2019 06:22

20 years.....end of.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...assengers.html

Plane mad 134 19th May 2019 15:41

Just looked at flights on Ryanair to Frankfurt and unfortunately it appears like they will end the route from October.

BHX5DME 19th May 2019 18:30

No Fuel !
 
Lots of MAN flights diverting to BHX :-)

Suzeman 19th May 2019 18:55

Report here from the local rag

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...rport-16299154

Suggested elsewhere that a power surge has disabled some or all of the fuelling system

wiggy 20th May 2019 08:39


Originally Posted by boredintheairport (Post 10464316)
What about the other way around? For e.g. the Ethiopian Addis - Brussels - Manchester flight. Do passengers exit, clear security and re-board in Brussels?

That would deoend on how the Belgian authorities want to play it....itís down to them as to whether a complete rescreened is required for transit passengers at one of their airports, not the UKís DfT.


GrahamK 20th May 2019 18:26

Icelandair will be using a Q400 of Air Iceland instead of the usual 757 for the next couple of days

pwalhx 21st May 2019 00:21

I have just flown Prague - Brussels-Manchester thanks to last nights slight problem, I didn't have to go through security at Brussels between flights.

easyflyer83 21st May 2019 01:24

The DfT here in the UK stipulate that everyone on an aircraft departing the UK must clear UK security. Hence the transiting SQ pax disembarking and clear security before re-boarding. If, for example, the SQ routes MAN-LHR-SIN then passengers wouldn't need to clear security in LHR because they have already been subjected to the UK security process. For those of you who connect with BA from MAN through LHR T5 you'll know that you don't clear security again because you cleared it in MAN. If you transfer to another LHR terminal you clear security again but presumably that is because you fall into the channel of other transferring pax from destinations outside the UK.

Within Europe there isn't always that stipulation and that is why in the parts of many European airports that service European flights, arriving and departing passengers mix.

Check Mags On 21st May 2019 18:13

deplane
 

Originally Posted by TURIN (Post 10466142)
All passengers disembark (deplane isn't a word please stop using it). .

Deplane is a word in the USA is it not.


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