Few were in-flight diversions. They flight planned into.SEN and had prebooked handling arranged.

Fair go but subjects slated as LTN...STN...etc "diversions".

Is it possible subjects also double booked SEN on a "just in case" basis?...Happens in the exec world.

I think it should be remembered that these customers are demanding people. If LTN and STN have failed them then maybe they won't be forgiven in a hurry, especially when they look to the future and the pressures on those airports and what that may mean to execs demanding a runway open to them 24hrs. If SEN have demonstrated they can deliver the service required why shouldn't they get a decent slice of the pie?

I don't understand the first line of your post I'm afraid, but regarding the second I think the answer is "unlikely" as the slot restrictions at both LTN and STN would be well known to them and they wouldn't have been able to book slots there. It had also been suggested that having been 'forced' to use SEN the aircraft would rapidly be relocated to LTN or STN as soon as possible but that didn't seem to happen. A couple of days ago I noted seven non-based bizjet aircraft on the SEN ramp and another two or three in the SJC hangar.

To clarify...Fair few visiting exec a/c to Southend were "reported" as LTN...STN...etc "diversions".

Re the bookings fair go but anecdotal evidence suggests in some instances otherwise.

I`m suggesting that a/c may have had slots booked at LTN/STN BEFORE the "curfew" hour but in a just in case scenario booked SEN too.


Execs already out of position may then be slotted out at LTN/STN for the return both with the R/W & FBO`s as the new days movements dealt with.

Anyways...Anecdotes & conjecture.

Ah, I see what you mean. SEN would probably have been able to accept them as diversions anyway without them needing to book a slot. I know SEN valued greatly their limited number of available night slots so wouldn't have taken kindly to an operator booking one 'just in case' and then not using it. Genuine diversions are excluded from the monthly night quota count.

Thanks for info...

Exec Jet movements
 

Thanks for all the posts reporting anecdotal increases in executive jet movements but does someone have the factual amount of movements Stobarts have handled since the new FBO opened?

Exec jets.

In excess of 800 May - Sept inc.

Small beer? Certainly. But a solid start.

I flew into and out of SEN today for the first time. Almost certianly a one-off. Was surprised by teh number of BAe146 parked up. Whose are they and why parked up looked unused?

Pleasant little airport, reminds me of Newquay or a smaller Liverpool. A breath of fresh air compared to Manchester.

The 146 / RJ's belong to Jota Aviation. They are based at SEN. My understanding is that they have good and growing demand for their services which involves both pax and cargo.

JOTA Aviation have an active fleet of five 146/RJ aircraft; 1 x 146-200, 1 x RJ85, 1 x RJ100 (all in pax configuration) and 2 x 146-300QT freighters. The QTs are just entering service and they have a further two QTs acquired a few months ago that are not yet active. They have had a very busy summer with their passenger fleet flying for the likes of HOP and Cityjet alongside charter operations.

Avro Hawker Siddeley designed what became the Bae 146
The 100 and stretched 200 series
80/85/100 seats and then the further stretched 115 seat 300 series version

Jota Aviation at SEN seem to be very successful and have a their growing fleet of 146's for ACMI and pax/cargo charter work.
They were recently looking for more cabin crew and Ops/crewing staff at SEN
Perhaps a local or bigger tour operator would consider Jota for a IT series out of SEN again - The 146 is 'right size' for routes like Palma Alicante and Italy.



I first saw a demo 146-100 in BAF colours being shown off to Brymon at LHR around the time the Brymon Dash 7 was being introduced - we handled it at BMA T1. 1981?

In attempt to join the growing market of Regional Jets Bae sort to market their 146 as an RJ model and give it a makeover
the RJ70/85 and 100 versions (seat capacity) saw new avionics and upgrades to the engines and few more tweaks

A QC quick change passenger/cargo version with a large freight door was also offered from 146 days - renamed QT quiet trader

SEN locally based Burstin Travel bought 2 new 146-200QC's to fly holiday charters from SEN and do cargo/mail flights at night - the airline was called Princess Air. They leased a 3rd -200

A further-improved version with new engines, the Avro RJX, was announced in 1997, but only two prototypes and one production aircraft were built before production ceased in 2001.
The 146/RJ sold much better than the Bac-111

Quite a nice little aeroplane - Dan Air Manx and Palmair used them on holiday flights from Gatwick and Bournemouth - suited mainly as far as PMI and IBZ, but AGP and FAO were flown but a tech stop sometimes was needed as the range/payload was stretched to the limit.
Manx used them on ski charters to Chambery and INN but it was hard to get a full load of bags skis and boots in the holds.

Loganair also used them ex MAN and SEN. A/C were G-OLCA and G-OLCB. They were 146-200 in a Y101 config - flew MAN-AGP and return one year on it - horrendously delayed in the old AGP terminal coming home. One did a double MAN-AGP-MAN and the other positioned down to SEN to operate something in the morning followed by a SEN-AGP that year.

Off-topic, but I remember those 2 operating weekly charters for the MoD from MAN out to the airfields of RAF Germany.

Tophat - re your above post (#2040 September 29th) have I missed something? I am not asking what, but are you thinking/knowing that there is some announcement to be made in November?

No. I know nothing for sure except that any new franchise agreements with Stobart Air would be made during November.

Ah, thank you. That's sorted that out then!

My goodness, diverts from LCY are arriving thick and fast.

Only one problem - Because of engineering work last London bound train departs Southend Victoria at 2100.

The final diversion, from Ibiza, is due to land at 2025
​​​​​​.so should be ok. Trains are normal today apparently

The evening bus replacements have actually been suspended for this week (only!!!) - so trains are operating throughout this evening.

Thats good news. Thanks

Only a short respite unfortunately.. Weekend engineering is back this weekend and the weekday evening engineering resumes from next Monday - but at least the latter seems to start later and to be a bit less extensive for now.

Flybe will operate NQY-SEN next year. From April 2019 5 times weekly, increasing to daily from 1st May.

I assume it will be operated by Stobart but NQY Twitter doesn't say.

Thats very interesting. I thought the Flybe agreement would end in April. I think the route will do well again.
plus new routes to Aberdeen and Jersey, and Manchester continues.

Here's the press release.

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/169...nd-to-newquay/

It appears that talk of Stobart's Flybe franchise ending was premature. I think it's reasonable to suggest that this route will not be the only one operated by the Flybe brand next summer.

​​​​​​​Go to the Flybe thread and look at the list of Flight Alerts. However, these might not be direct??

Would not be to sure about that Dave especially after their recent financial statement.

Definitely uncertain times for Flybe.

I've just read the press release again. In the opening sentence it says NQY is to be a year round destination from 1st April. And in the last it talks about onward connections.

I do believe NQY is to become Stobart's new MAN.

Yes, the last sentence of that article says:
In my view the implied notion that someone might choose to fly from Southend via Newquay to pretty much any of those destinations (except Isles of Scilly)... is, let's say, "unrealistic". :cool:

I absolutely agree. But are there other destinations yet to be announced?

Oh come on, can we just be realistic. Why would anybody want to connect at Nequay other than the Isles of Scilly when Southend, Stansted ,Luton etc has got most of Europe covered. I fear rose tinted glasses have reared their ugly head again.

It's a press release - its not related to the real world...

As I have written before, please wait until mid-november by which time all the 2019 routes, schedules and franchise agreement(s) will be made public. I know the discussions about FlyBe's future exists, but hopefully they will survive.