SEN has just posted on their f/bk page that "easyJet has announced it will base a fourth A320(sic) aircraft at the airport from 25th July 2018 .....".
Presumably there may be frequency increases on existing routes but also some new routes added in due course. |
Good news! Hopefully, they'll reinstate a morning flight to Malaga, at least for part of the week. Having said that I think this Spain / Catalonia business is in danger of spiralling out of control and could have a huge impact next year on plans.
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Could be a 320 neo facilitating some longer routes?
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
(Post 9913649)
SEN has just posted on their f/bk page that "easyJet has announced it will base a fourth A320(sic) aircraft at the airport from 25th July 2018 .....".
Presumably there may be frequency increases on existing routes but also some new routes added in due course. Good news but not the new based airline the airport needs to stem the operational losses. |
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I love the PR that's coming out SEN atm; top marks to them!!! :D
(Also, I highly doubt easyJet would ever plan to get out of bed for loads that were only 80% of whatever the actual loads were :rolleyes: But I guess "easyJet was able to charge SEN pax more than they expected to be able to get off with and wants more of that" doesn't have the same ring :) ) |
I know to the public it doesn't really matter but
A fourth A320 a/ c isn't exactly accurate as SEN has A319s based or has that changed? Think it is unlikely to be a NEO but hopefully you will get a couple of new routes at least. I am thinking maybe Lisbon! |
Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
(Post 9913777)
Could be a 320 neo facilitating some longer routes?
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And why is Captain Caveman so sure it won't be a neo? Is he in the know or just surmising? Not so long ago there was a little army of "SEN won't get a 4th aircraft" merchants who have now been proved wrong. Why are the doubters so adamant that good things just won't happen? I suggest people should wait and see before rubbishing every suggestion/thought.
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If EZY were planning to but a NEO in, why not mention it today and use that to boost the PR? From a support point of view, it would make sense to concentrate the NEO's rather than disperse them around the network.
25 July seems a bit of an odd date, is it a full time fourth A/C? |
EZY announced 8 th aircraft joining Liverpool base 27/7/18 so i guess Southend's 4 th aircraft joining 25/7 makes similar sense at the start of the main summer season
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No plans for NEO at SEN, they will go to the bigger bases first so the line engineers can get skilled up.
I think the date is relevant when the 321NEOs start to arrive thus freeing up 320CEOs. |
Anyone know what's happening to the ex RBS building near the airport ?
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Neo will be at large bases to facilitate the training pilots, engineering and cabin crew trainers gaining authorisation to fly/maintain/serve in the new machine. This will facilitate in-house cascading of training downward.
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Originally Posted by SARF
(Post 9914521)
Anyone know what's happening to the ex RBS building near the airport ?
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I would guess the extra aircraft at both Liverpool and Southend will be based for a period of a few weeks (school holidays) to add extra capacity for that period. Whether they continue for the rest of the summer season is open for debate.
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I doubt that the aircraft will be an A320neo unless that type offers a considerable commercial advantage by virtue of enhanced field performance. I still haven't found any written evidence of that and Airbus no longer seem to be claiming better field performance for the variant.
Press Releases are always difficult to fathom as the context of statements is never clear. If they really said that the addition of an A320 will produce an "increase of 130,000 passengers to and from the airport ..." then that is four months of SEN utilisation of an A320, not just the school holiday period. Continued speculation isn't really worth while beyond that but no doubt things will become clearer when any new routes are announced. I have heard Madrid mentioned by the way. |
Originally Posted by SEN Observer
(Post 9914389)
And why is Captain Caveman so sure it won't be a neo? Is he in the know or just surmising? Not so long ago there was a little army of "SEN won't get a 4th aircraft" merchants who have now been proved wrong. Why are the doubters so adamant that good things just won't happen? I suggest people should wait and see before rubbishing every suggestion/thought.
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neo or ceo, temporary or permanent. Surely this news cannot be regarded as anything other than positive for SEN. Over the last 12 months or so I've read here (I paraphrase) "Southend was a vanity project for EZY executive" Southend is the worst performing of the UK bases" EZY can't wait to get out" and frequently "Hell will freeze over before a fourth based aircraft comes along".
Clearly, easyjet don't share those views. There's no sentiment in their decision. It's not something they had to do. |
CD3 Dave -it's good to see your positivity. Considering what has been achieved at Southend (and I am one of those Lutoners really) I am amazed how downbeat many are here. When I visited in a Cessna not that many years ago it as pretty moribund with 146s and a 707 lying around and very little commercial traffic. It is now a thriving local airport (sorry I don't really buy the London bit) with turboprop regional jet and main line low cost operators. It may not be making money yet - but it's there but an amazing transformation really compared with say Teeside, Humberside and Norwich which have changed little, and Cardiff and Doncaster/Sheffield which certainly don't make money and pay large inducements to retain fewer operators by and large.
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Going back to the LGW slot issue, it only changes things for SEN and others if it's EZY that end up with the vacant Monarch slots and they suddenly need to find nine aircraft to throw over there. If BA/IAG or Norwegian get them, it changes nothing because they barely operate north of the river anyway. Either way, unless no one takes them (unlikely) it will still be the case that peak LGW is full and new entrants will be forced to look elsewhere.
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Neo will be at large bases to facilitate the training pilots, engineering and cabin crew trainers gaining authorisation to fly/maintain/serve in the new machine. This will facilitate in-house cascading of training downward. |
Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
(Post 9914981)
neo or ceo, temporary or permanent. Surely this news cannot be regarded as anything other than positive for SEN. Over the last 12 months or so I've read here (I paraphrase) "Southend was a vanity project for EZY executive" Southend is the worst performing of the UK bases" EZY can't wait to get out" and frequently "Hell will freeze over before a fourth based aircraft comes along".
Clearly, easyjet don't share those views. There's no sentiment in their decision. It's not something they had to do. |
I know CC require separate training on the 321 neo but not sure about the 320s
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Engineers do need an extra piece of paper but it's not going to stop one being based at Southend. We've flown it from LTN to many places where the engineers are able to fix it but has to be signed off from Maintenance control due to them not having enough experience on type. Obviously as more and more come online they'll be able to sign things off themselves.
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The engineers will have to attend a NEO differences course (theory and practical) in order to gain approval for the neo.
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Originally Posted by tws123
(Post 9914701)
It's not an 'ex' office as RBS are still there. I don't think there are plans to close it anytime soon, and its removal would probably have very limited implications for SEN's runway (05).
There are lots of works going on , on the north west side. I was just wondering if the rbs offices would be used by an operator on,the south side |
Read the following article in yesterday's Evening Standard. Wonder if the airport will benefit from the investment in any way?
LOGISTICS giant Stobart, which owns London Southend Airport, today revealed it will invest in a tech start-up which helps travellers get luggage from their door to the airport without having to lift a finger. The firm will provide £2 million to London-founded AirPortr. The company has an app that allows holidaymakers to have a third party deliver their bags and check them in. It is partnered with Gatwick and Heathrow and offered to British Airways customers and is looking to expand with the funding. |
This is a bit of a surprise if you ask me. Especially as it was only extended a couple of years ago and that was only a few years after the original building was finished.
Todays Echo - FIRST_LOOK__Multi_million_pound_extensions_to_Southend_Airpo rt/ |
EXPANSION
SEN have announce that a MULTI MILLION POUND extension will start in early 2018 (subgect to planning)..an extension to southern end of terminal to house new baggage/sorting & screening systems to meet new rules starting 1st sept 2018.....also extension to northern end improving baggage reclaim:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
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Good News.....For the record the multi million extension comes in @ £5M.
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looks like stobarts are staying, dispite what certain people on this web page are saying
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Context & rationale ?...
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Now all they need are some passengers to use it...
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Just for the record Stobart's expediture on SEN improvements this year seems to comprise around £3m on taxiway and apron works, some £1m on FBO improvements currently in progress, a large additional long-stay car park which opened last week and now £5m for the terminal extension. So roughly £10m being spent in total. Not a huge sum but still substantial.
tws123 On that score I'm still hoping ('hopeful' might be too strong a word to use though) that an important announcement may be forthcoming within the next month. |
Nice little item about Milan in yesterdays Mail on Sunday - with a plug for the Stobart Air services from SEN. I believe the Mail on Sunday is the biggest Sunday seller in the UK (sorry to all the left-wingers who crop up regularly here!) - so hopefully will have reached a big audience.
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
(Post 9919318)
Just for the record Stobart's expediture on SEN improvements this year seems to comprise around £3m on taxiway and apron works, some £1m on FBO improvements currently in progress, a large additional long-stay car park which opened last week and now £5m for the terminal extension. So roughly 10m being spent in total. Not a huge sum but still substantial.
tws123 On that score I'm still hoping ('hopeful' might be too strong a word to use though) that an important announcement may be forthcoming within the next month. |
Stobart are pretty clued up, the recent investment is future proofing, and good to see. Some of the recent convulsions with Monarch, RyanAir, and the decline of CityJet may throw the plans, allowing more slots elsewhere,
but SEN is steadily building a public awareness of speed quality and efficiency. See the Which surveys. Remember it took years before LCY scratched the surface. All this money is not being invested without committment. |
A new airline would be great, but an airline with a substantial operation and growth potential would be even better.
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EssexMan61....What with the comment concerning & to quote "sorry to all the left-wingers who crop up regularly here !!"..
I have pointed out before it is all the side swiping on this airport thread in particular that does nothing to help get a general SEN message across. |
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