No surprise at all unfortunately. It's hard to make an argument for Wizz staying at SEN once European flying restarts in a more organised way.
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
(Post 10814452)
No surprise at all unfortunately. It's hard to make an argument for Wizz staying at SEN once European flying restarts in a more organised way.
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Looks like Ryanair are having a cull at Southend this winter with only 1 based aircraft operating between Friday - Monday
SEN - ALC - SEN - AGP - SEN - DUB - SEN |
Better than nothing and they have left the door open for better days.
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The Spring 2021 schedule currently seems to need two aircraft to operate it. It's possible, of course, that additions may be made to that schedule in coming months.
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Not good but surely the good times will return at Southend in the medium term.
https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/185...us-worse-9-11/ |
Originally Posted by stewyb
(Post 10814273)
Twitter suggesting Wizz Vilnius dropped!
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Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 10816926)
Not good but surely the good times will return at Southend in the medium term.
https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/185...us-worse-9-11/ “We’re a short haul airport and I think we have got a good chance of coming back early and a chance of getting more share, but you have to work really hard for it.” Time will tell..... |
Southend looks to remain a three aircraft RYR base next summer with the Summer 2021 schedules starting to appear on their website. So far ALC, REU, CFU, DUB, FAO, AGP and PMI are bookable and presumably other destinations will appear, as RYR normally drip-feed their route releases.
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There is an element of whistling in the dark, but also some truth in what Glyn Jones says:“There are two things in our favour, the first is we are still very largely a leisure-based airport, leisure will come back before business for practical reasons. “We’re a short haul airport and I think we have got a good chance of coming back early and a chance of getting more share, but you have to work really hard for it.” |
Wideroe have announced a new Bergen to Southend service operating 2x weekly on their E190-E2 from 31 August 2020.
Flights operate on Mondays and Fridays BGO 8:30 - 9:20 SEN SEN 9:50 - 12:50 BGO |
Are they going to fly to Bergen from every London airport?!
Sadly I think this may be temporary, they’ve got slots at LCY I believe so wouldn’t be surprised if both this and Kristiansand shift over come winter |
Why wouldn’t they go straight into LCY now if that’s the plan for winter, it’s not exactly full?
I think payload would be an issue LCY-KRS on the Q400 |
Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
(Post 10819272)
Sadly I think this may be temporary, they’ve got slots at LCY I believe so wouldn’t be surprised if both this and Kristiansand shift over come winter
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https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2020...ockdown-eases/
So what is this quote all about? We are recognised as the only London airport where you don't need extra safety and the only airport in England where you can fly to Greece and not be quarantined when you get there so we have some really big advantages – GLYN JONES, LONDON SOUTHEND AIRPORT |
Maybe the checks are the equivalent of what the Greeks would have given on arrival so it’s a bit like US customs clearance in Dublin? Shame there aren’t many flights between SEN and Greece!
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I think Mr Jones has been doing what I call an Everley Brothers - All I have to do is dream, dream, dream!
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Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 10822185)
https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/1179...-july-airport/ |
I would imagine the comment stems from this EASA document: Annex 1 to EASA SD No 2020-01 and SD 2020-02
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
(Post 10819338)
You could be right as far as BGO is concerned because it's only bookable from SEN between August 31st and October 19th. KRS seems less likely as that is bookable from SEN right through to Summer 2021, when it increases to a daily frequency.
Bergen (BGO) now on sale 2x weekly through to 21 June 2021. Kristiansand (KRS) remains on sale at 5x weekly, rising to daily from 28 March 2021 through to 24 June 2021 |
Wideroe have also responded to a specific enquiry regarding a possible move of the BGO route to LCY that it will not be the case.
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easyJet
Where do they stand having signed up for 10 years with SEN in 2012?
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Originally Posted by SEN Observer
(Post 10825392)
Where do they stand having signed up for 10 years with SEN in 2012?
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Terribly bad news for the staff and the airport, not entirely unexpected especially now with the high probability of no-deal Brexit to throw into the toxic mix.
They say a presence will be maintained at all three airports, hard to see SEN having much of a network though as few existing routes are bases. Perhaps Wizz will be offered a deal they can’t refuse...I can’t see in the imminent future where else replacement would come from. |
This is awful news for Southend but Southend was always vulnerable to an Easyjet withdrawal. The surprise is Stansted so it would appear the airline will focus on a single base north and south of the Thames. Southend was always at a disadvantage as it could not offer the airline a 24/7 operation.
The question is will they return when the world gets back to normal? I really hope so but again it might rely on the other London Airports becoming full again with Southend catching the overflow. The worst case scenario is that passenger services become unviable for Southend and Stobart closes the terminal to cut costs. I can’t see Ryanair doing much at Southend as their focus will be at Stansted. As for Wizz it can only be a matter of time. |
Stansted is not a shock, Jet2 have pushed their way to No2 at Stansted with massive growth, Easyjet just stayed stagnant, I’m surprised they have stuck around this long.
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Sad news for the airport and its staff and seems that EZY are going forward with a London two base strategy north and south of the river. Remains to be seen how much appetite there will be from EZY to continue non based flying and would imagine this will reduce to a handful of destinations from current EZY bases. RYR may jump on certain routes although now is not the right time for large expansion, unless you are Wizz who seem to be throwing caution to the wind throughout Europe and may see this as an opportunity, but with Luton close by and Wizz’s determination seemingly to grow Gatwick, SEN is probably not being thought of!
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It will be fascinating to see what messrs Brady and Jones have to say about the latest bad news for the airport. Probably Wizz to follow - expand at Gatwick and consolidate at Luton.
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Originally Posted by compton3bravo
(Post 10825482)
It will be fascinating to see what messrs Brady and Jones have to say about the latest bad news for the airport. Probably Wizz to follow - expand at Gatwick and consolidate at Luton.
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Originally Posted by daz211
(Post 10825437)
Stansted is not a shock, Jet2 have pushed their way to No2 at Stansted with massive growth, Easyjet just stayed stagnant, I’m surprised they have stuck around this long.
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
(Post 10825495)
I wholeheartedly concur. My surprise is both SEN and STN being cut
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Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
(Post 10825419)
Terribly bad news for the staff and the airport, not entirely unexpected especially now with the high probability of no-deal Brexit to throw into the toxic mix.
They say a presence will be maintained at all three airports, hard to see SEN having much of a network though as few existing routes are bases. Perhaps Wizz will be offered a deal they can’t refuse...I can’t see in the imminent future where else replacement would come from. |
Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 10825422)
This is awful news for Southend but Southend was always vulnerable to an Easyjet withdrawal. The surprise is Stansted so it would appear the airline will focus on a single base north and south of the Thames. Southend was always at a disadvantage as it could not offer the airline a 24/7 operation.
The question is will they return when the world gets back to normal? I really hope so but again it might rely on the other London Airports becoming full again with Southend catching the overflow. The worst case scenario is that passenger services become unviable for Southend and Stobart closes the terminal to cut costs. I can’t see Ryanair doing much at Southend as their focus will be at Stansted. As for Wizz it can only be a matter of time. |
Originally Posted by _aax1
(Post 10825501)
Same, I think one might be saved by the end of the consultation
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Originally Posted by stewyb
(Post 10825395)
No doubt there were numerous break clauses in contract!
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Originally Posted by rowly6339
(Post 10825489)
Warwick Brady will say the same as usual that SEN is doing well and will only grow, he is blind to what is going on and refuses to accept that the situation is not good and future is going to be extremely difficult, he is simply in denial if you will.
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From the recently published Stobart Group prospectus:
Actions taken by these significant customers such as reductions in operations or the use of the Group’s services could materially adversely affect the Group. Stobart Aviation is particularly exposed to this risk, as the operating contracts with the airlines operating at the Group’s airports do not commit either party to specific volumes of activity. There can therefore be no assurance as to the level of the Group’s future aeronautical revenue from any one or more airline operators. However, even where the Group does have contracts in place with its significant customers, if these customers suffer financial difficulties they may be unable to fulfil their contractual obligations. |
A year ago Stobart must have thought the world was their lobster. Not 1 not 2 but 3 LCC’s, a 30% stake in a regional airline that would bring many a new route SEN’s way and pax numbers rapidly growing towards levels they’d promised for years.
Then the Flybe purchase started to go horribly wrong. Then Covid-19. The weakness of the airport exposed and their even, by now, hopelessly weaker owners probably unable to do anything to dig in, especially when the government support dies up. So so what does the future hold for SEN? I don’t know, but I’m saddened by events and in no mood to kick anyone when they’re down. Not even Warwick Brady. Addition: https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/185...syjet-closure/ I suppose, clutching at straws, that there is one card left to play as the 10 year deal winds down. Stobart could always offer say 5 years more of sweetness, something STN would not be able to do even if they were daft enough. |
The question is was Southend told by Easyjet that they were off or did Easyjet and Stobart hold negotiations and could not agree a new deal?
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