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LTNman 13th Dec 2018 17:54

Going back to your post of 2nd December you said the other tender, which was for a new south east stand, was actually an apron as per your comment below but I have never found that notice you quoted. Can you provide a link as your conclusion was new stands on the drop off area while I was thinking what is now proposed.


Originally Posted by Falcon666 (Post 10327140)
If you read the Contract Notice section 11.2.4 they do actually state Stands.

I believe this is the area designated between the East Apron and South Stands which will become available when MSCP2 is built. Just an apron as Lot 1 states a value of £700k for it.Lot 2 ( local works) doesn’t have a value inserted but states the whole project will be capped at £2.5 Million.So what will the local work be at circa £1.8 Million.
A Pier extension? how much did the new Pier cost I wonder!


The latest tender is for a design rather than a build and could be linked to a terminal 2 which might be years away although it would not stop the apron being built.

dvc 13th Dec 2018 18:29

From what people say at work there will be 5 stands between 49 and 23R l. Pier b also gonna be extended to cover those. 8 stands by erub seem to be for future terminal .

pabely 13th Dec 2018 18:47


Originally Posted by dvc (Post 10335040)
From what people say at work there will be 5 stands between 49 and 23R l. Pier b also gonna be extended to cover those. 8 stands by erub seem to be for future terminal .

8 stands by erub?

Falcon666 13th Dec 2018 19:03


https://in-tendhost.co.uk/llaol/aspx/Tenders/Current

LTNman , the above link is to the main site.
If you look at the view details of L18109 and then the “ view new Contract notice”.
That was the section where i got the information that you are relating to.

The new 8 Stand Apron looks likely to be a remote Apron to start off with and then will become linked to the new terminal if it gets the go ahead..
If they can get it finished in time for Euro 2020 it might come in handy!

Falcon666 13th Dec 2018 19:04


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10335055)
8 stands by erub?

Engine run up bay

pabely 13th Dec 2018 19:06

If cause, a dumb moment!

LTNman 13th Dec 2018 19:19

Yes south east stand also reads south east stands, which could mean the drop off area. Might be a typo error but could suggest an apron but then why not say an apron if they mean an apron.

compton3bravo 14th Dec 2018 07:46

Or even a pinny!

LGS6753 14th Dec 2018 12:24

Report on official opening from Travel Mole:

https://www.travelmole.com/news_feat...ews_id=2035328

LTNman 14th Dec 2018 14:40

While there is much to be desired with the finsh of the terminal the transformation has been remarkable with the full integration of 3 seperate but linked buildings. It is easy to forget how it was back in 2015 as the whole of this outside area is now terminal. Sorry to say that the hot dog type kiosks suvived the expansion.

https://i.imgur.com/Ypbp31R.jpg

LTNman 16th Dec 2018 08:09

3 years in 2 minutes


Opening ceremony


Spanish eyes 16th Dec 2018 08:48

What the Chief Executive should have said at the end of the second video was that the builders had been hidden away for the day and would be back in the terminal the following day as the terminal isn't finished yet.

Falcon666 16th Dec 2018 10:34


Behind the scenes look at Luton

dvc 16th Dec 2018 15:10


Originally Posted by Falcon666 (Post 10336853)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QvEGR9aET1s

Behind the scenes look at Luton

It's weird to watch when you know 99% of people in this video... and know the truth ;-)

toledoashley 17th Dec 2018 08:30

Wizzair adding Bergen, Oslo, Turku, Catania, Thessaloniki and Porto for Summer 19. Two more 321s to be based at LTN.

LTNman 17th Dec 2018 10:20

And there we were all thinking that Ryanair grabbed the last two stands that became free when the 2 builder compounds were dismantled. Wonder where the extra 2 spare stands are coming from?

Lee Baker Street 17th Dec 2018 11:12

More too come
 
I think with 18 million pax by end of 2019 then the airport is being prudent to add a few more stands.

LTNman 17th Dec 2018 11:13

It was only a few days ago that the front of the terminal got a bit of spit and polish for the grand opening ceremony. Today normal service has been resumed but a bonus for the smokers is that the LLA logo that appeared last week by the entrances makes a great shelf to leave bottles, tins and cups after puffing on a fag.

https://i.imgur.com/CpOkp6B.jpg

ericlday 17th Dec 2018 11:34

Oh but the lady is 'very busy'

pabely 17th Dec 2018 11:54

Wizzair
 
Detail https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...t-year-454474/

BHX5DME 17th Dec 2018 12:11

Nick Barton is leaving Luton and will join BHX in January after four years with Luton and eight at Stansted, where he was managing director.

At Birmingham, he will oversee a £500 million upgrade and expansion. It is planned to grow the facility from the current 13 million passengers a year to 18 million.

Barton said: “I am thrilled to be joining Birmingham airport to deliver the board’s vision and strategy for this critical piece of national and regionally significant transport infrastructure. Birmingham airport is on the threshold of a very exciting chapter in its development and I am delighted to have been given the responsibility to lead and shape the future of the airport.”

The airport’s chairman Tim Clarke said: “We have carried out an extensive search of the aviation sector for a new chief executive. The board is delighted to have secured such a proven and experienced individual to execute our ambitious vision for the development of the airport.



“His record in generating strong growth brings the quality of leadership needed to fully realise the potential of this vital asset for the West Midlands economy and the region as a whole.”



Alberto Martin, Luton’s planning and investment director, has taken over the top job there, replacing Barton. Before joining Luton, Martin held a variety of executive roles across Europe, including 10 years as managing director of Gran Canaria and Fuerteventura airports.

He said: “Building on the strong demand from passengers and the success of our recent terminal transformation, I’m delighted to have the opportunity to lead the team in establishing LLA as the airport of choice for accessible, easy and enjoyable air travel”.

davidjohnson6 17th Dec 2018 12:17

Not at all surprised about Bergen and Turku being opened.

Ever since BA, Easyjet and (I think) SAS dropped the London-Bergen route, Norwegian has been able to charge whatever it liked - there is definitely room for a second player in summer at least

It's been puzzling me for years why Turku hasn't had a London link after Ryanair stopped STN-TKU many years ago. If Rovaniemi, Kuusamo, Ivalo and Kittila can all sustain ample winter seasonal scheduled flights from London and there are 9 flights per day on London-Helsinki, then perhaps time to look at a route to Turku or Tampere.

The timings on both Oslo and Porto both look like something to keep an aircraft busy at off-peak times. However London-Oslo and (especially) London-Porto might turn into a fare war - can these 2 routes really sustain 5 carriers each ?

dvc 17th Dec 2018 12:23


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10337521)
And there we were all thinking that Ryanair grabbed the last two stands that became free when the 2 builder compounds were dismantled. Wonder where the extra 2 spare stands are coming from?

From what I know wizz will have 2 overnight flights. Both leaving around 2300.

LTNman 17th Dec 2018 13:19

So Wizz becomes Luton's largest carrier in terms of seats for sale.

pabely 17th Dec 2018 16:56

Ho ho ho
 
https://www.campaignlive.co.uk/artic...htshow/1521305

compton3bravo 17th Dec 2018 18:37

Never mind the new Wizz routes, 15 extra weekly flights on existing services with Larnaca going double daily and Tirana daily.

LTNman 17th Dec 2018 18:50

Wizz describes Luton as their fortress. With Luton having 4 more based aircraft at Luton next summer 18 million must be getting close.

Where Luton has been less successful is attracting new non based airlines which seem to be heading for Stansted with Southend picking up random routes.

mariofly12 17th Dec 2018 19:48

Flight times to OSL,BGO,OPO,SKG,TKU,CTA are very convenient for leisure and VFR pax..And their increased frequencies on LCA,ATH,TIA etc creates a huge wave of red-eye flights giving max utilization of a/c since their departure and arrival at LTN is around the first wave of 0700-0800..I dont know which of these will continue for W19/20 and if increased frequencies will be kept but it's gonna be a battlefield between the big 3 LCCs (W6,U2,FR)..e.g. LTN-ATH introduced daily by FR too...Easyjet flies also LTN-SKG in the summer but on different days (2,4,6)..
Check here the red-eye wave of departures:

Athens 22:40 (04:25 arrival)
Bucharest 21:55 (03:10 arrival)
Chisinau 00:05 (05:20 arrival)
Cluj-Napoca 20:45 (01:40 arrival)
Constanta 22:40 (04:05 arrival)
Debrecen 22:20 (01:55 arrival)
Kharkiv 22:40 (04:25 arrival)
Sibiu 20:45 (01:45 arrival)
Sofia 21:55 (02:55 arrival)
Suceava 22:40 (03:45 arrival)
Timisoara 21:55 (02:35 arrival)
Varna 21:15 (02:40 arrival)
Vilnius 21:40 (02:20 arrival)

Confirmed Must Ride 18th Dec 2018 05:45


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 10337617)
Not at all surprised about Bergen and Turku being opened.

Ever since BA, Easyjet and (I think) SAS dropped the London-Bergen route, Norwegian has been able to charge whatever it liked - there is definitely room for a second player in summer at least

It's been puzzling me for years why Turku hasn't had a London link after Ryanair stopped STN-TKU many years ago. If Rovaniemi, Kuusamo, Ivalo and Kittila can all sustain ample winter seasonal scheduled flights from London and there are 9 flights per day on London-Helsinki, then perhaps time to look at a route to Turku or Tampere.

The timings on both Oslo and Porto both look like something to keep an aircraft busy at off-peak times. However London-Oslo and (especially) London-Porto might turn into a fare war - can these 2 routes really sustain 5 carriers each ?

The Bergen route is only sustainable with support from Oil and Gas travel. easyJets highest load was between 30-50 people per flight, thats why it only lastest as long as it did. Was only instigated to add a bit of pressure to DY

compton3bravo 18th Dec 2018 07:18

Personally I don't think Wizz are looking at gas and oil personnel more like Norwegians coming to London for shopping etc and UK citizens to visit Bergen and the fjords (I do near they are pining for them!). Regards Porto it has a large catchment area with the Spanish cities of Vigo, Ourense and Pontevedra not to far away as well as Braga in Portugal but we will just have to wait and see.

Falcon666 18th Dec 2018 11:30


Following a recommendation from our shareholders we are looking to improve the current customer satisfaction scores at LLA and require a strategy to achieve this and, year on year, improve. The strategy should highlight quick wins and longer terms plans to enable success as soon as possible.

Quote from latest Tender, The shareholders have at long last recognised that LTN needs to get its act together and promote a better experience!
Time will tell

AirportPlanner1 18th Dec 2018 13:54


Originally Posted by Confirmed Must Ride (Post 10338119)
The Bergen route is only sustainable with support from Oil and Gas trade

Rubbish. It’s pretty much the number one destination in Norway for foreign tourists and their busiest cruise terminal. It also draws a lot of Norwegian tourists visiting the U.K. for shopping, football etc.

LTNman 18th Dec 2018 14:55


Originally Posted by Falcon666 (Post 10338368)

Following a recommendation from our shareholders we are looking to improve the current customer satisfaction scores at LLA and require a strategy to achieve this and, year on year, improve. The strategy should highlight quick wins and longer terms plans to enable success as soon as possible.

Quote from latest Tender, The shareholders have at long last recognised that LTN needs to get its act together and promote a better experience!
Time will tell

Why do they need to tender to find out their issues when they can go to this website for free https://www.airlinequality.com/airpo...luton-airport/ Complaints are mainly about staff attitudes, queues, a lack of seating, drop off charges and the departure gates. The strategy should be investment including fixtures and fittings which plays on the subconscious mind.

PAXboy 19th Dec 2018 10:51

Indeed LTNman. If a managment team have to ask others for solutions to the things they manage - they are not capable of manging! I have seen this for years in areas of IT that I was in for 27 years. Promoted beyond their abilities and when the times change - they are managers in name only.

The most important lesson I learnt about managing was: "Listen to your staff, Listen to your customers. Make them both happy." It is much easier when managers have worked their way up the chain and know how the system works... The first job I ever did at 16 was working Saturdays in a department store. The General Manager of the store told me that he had started as a Saturday boy when he was at school. That said, Main Board directors like to change the system every couple of years because they don't know what they are doing either!

dvc 19th Dec 2018 12:03

Any idea what happened there https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ceedc4b51c.jpg

LTNman 19th Dec 2018 12:18

The crane was like this yesterday morning with one lane of the exit route closed off. The location is the back end of the DART maintenance area close to Delta. It is hard to tell what happened as the ground conditions under the crane tracks are hidden but I assume it went into a ditch. I am guessing the driver had to go home to change his underwear.

forest 19th Dec 2018 14:29

It very much looked like the tracks had been retracted into the close together position and the counterweighted rear end toppled it backwards, a bit of uneven ground may have assisted but didn't look terrible. The tracks have always been wide apart after it was delivered off the back of the low loader. Road going crane arrived earlier to either lift off the counterweights or return it to straight and level.

forest 19th Dec 2018 14:31

https://www.vertikal.net/en/news/story/32026/

Indeed, i guessed correctly.

pabely 20th Dec 2018 10:10

WOW Air diverted from LGW, surprised it didn't go to STN

LTNman 20th Dec 2018 10:45

Yes a Wow A321 parked on the south stands.

LTN has used the taxiway extenion at the 08 end to park 4 Easyjet overnight. The steps are still attached to the second and third aircraft.

https://i.imgur.com/Hx2L7F8.jpg


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