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pabely 4th Jan 2019 11:29

Storm now officially setup at Luton http://www.stormaviation.com/news/ne...ened-01012019/

I didn't think Gulfstream were leaving Luton, just outgrown it and overflowing to Farnborough

boeing_eng 4th Jan 2019 11:52

From what I've heard Gulfstream will fully relocate to Farnborough once the new facility there is fully up and running (should be next year)

https://www.rushmoor.gov.uk/article/...ort-Gulfstream

boeing_eng 4th Jan 2019 12:02

I can’t think of an older Ltn based company which was around for over 50 years.

How about the 57 year old Euravia->Britannia->Thomson->TUI :bored:

pabely 4th Jan 2019 12:48


Originally Posted by boeing_eng (Post 10351613)
From what I've heard Gulfstream will fully relocate to Farnborough once the new facility there is fully up and running (should be next year)

https://www.rushmoor.gov.uk/article/...ort-Gulfstream

I will check on that one, sales, marketing etc yes.

I looked into buying into the The Swan PH on Farnborough Road at one point, looks like a mistake on my part, another 500 mouths to feed!

Buster the Bear 4th Jan 2019 14:09

I was told that both the new Farnborough facility and the existing hangar at Luton would be retained. Swan is owned now by TAG I believe?

pabely 4th Jan 2019 14:40


Originally Posted by Buster the Bear (Post 10351741)
I was told that both the new Farnborough facility and the existing hangar at Luton would be retained. Swan is owned now by TAG I believe?

Are you thinking about the Aviator Hotel Buster, it's been a few years since I worked down that way but I'm sure the were involved in that. Perhaps if Gulf4uk or Chevvron might know?

boeing_eng 4th Jan 2019 15:07

The Gulfstream staff have been told that the whole facility is re-locating from LTN to Farnborough.....The confusion may have arisen as the LTN facility is obviously staying open until the new one is ready for action...

LTNman 4th Jan 2019 15:36

I heard that Signature will move back into their former hangar that Gulfstream now lease and that Harrods will occupy the Signature hangar by cargo.

Not good for Gulfstream staff as Gulfstream were based a Cambridge so making Luton commutable. Farnborough means house relocation if they want to keep their jobs even for those living in Luton.

LTNman 5th Jan 2019 05:58

Gulfstream will be gone by next year as they will be doubling hangar space at their new Farnborough home. Seems that Luton no longer met their needs and is a further blow to the aircraft maintenance side of Luton.

This report from May 2018.
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...er-farnborough

pabely 5th Jan 2019 09:06

Speaking to some Signature employees the relocation package is nit very attractive so looking also at other opportunities. The MAEL hangar at LTN is debt free so should not have a problem finding a buyer, the BHX operation is a different storey so more of worry for ex employees.

LTNman 5th Jan 2019 10:33

MEAL still have two hangars at Luton.

Buster the Bear 6th Jan 2019 09:56


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10351760)
Are you thinking about the Aviator Hotel Buster, it's been a few years since I worked down that way but I'm sure the were involved in that. Perhaps if Gulf4uk or Chevvron might know?

The pub on short final for 24, The Swan I was told is TAG owned, together with a fair number of other properties around the boundary.

LTNman, that was certainly the case last year that Gulfstream would be completely re-locating, but I understand that the new proposed Farnborough hangar site has been moved and the Hampshire operation was looking at becoming an interior upgrading and finishing centre, as well as a maintenance facility, Luton would remain open.

davidjohnson6 6th Jan 2019 11:06

I've noticed that Wizz are selling virtually all flights on Luton-Grenoble (and vice versa) for a price rather lower than similiar flights with other airlines to/from London airports; the only exception is for half term

Is this perhaps a route that Wizz might not operate next winter ?

pabely 6th Jan 2019 14:07


Originally Posted by Buster the Bear (Post 10353273)
The pub on short final for 24, The Swan I was told is TAG owned, together with a fair number of other properties around the boundary.

LTNman, that was certainly the case last year that Gulfstream would be completely re-locating, but I understand that the new proposed Farnborough hangar site has been moved and the Hampshire operation was looking at becoming an interior upgrading and finishing centre, as well as a maintenance facility, Luton would remain open.

I wonder how all this will effect the lease at STN of space?

LTNman 6th Jan 2019 19:32

Still hearing that Signature will be moving back into the hangar they built and that Harrods will end up with a complex of 3 hangars.

Looking at the artist’s impression of Gulfstream's Farnborough facility I can see why they want to move.

On the down side Farnborough is not 24 hour and then there is the issue of getting the staff to move.

BlueA330 8th Jan 2019 21:23

Transavia
 
I’ve seen Paris Orly on the arrivals a few days now but doesn’t appear on Transavia booking site . Are these ad hoc flights ?

cj241101 9th Jan 2019 03:43


Originally Posted by BlueA330 (Post 10355514)
I’ve seen Paris Orly on the arrivals a few days now but doesn’t appear on Transavia booking site . Are these ad hoc flights ?

Yes, 5 flights in total Mon-Fri this week.

Buster the Bear 9th Jan 2019 10:43

BMW charters is the rumour.

LTNman 9th Jan 2019 14:54

Construction update
 
The second core to the second multistory heads for completion.
https://i.imgur.com/QLhZc6g.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TyqU8TX.jpg

With a passenger route passing through the site of the multistory work carries on either side.
https://i.imgur.com/XICAEZ8.jpg


4 of the 6 cranes onsite today. Some digging out has taken place at the far end of the DART
https://i.imgur.com/CJLGFFy.jpg

Across the taxiway the ground is starting to be dug out for the DART
https://i.imgur.com/SSB0AZz.jpg

It won't be too long before the approach road is diverted.
https://i.imgur.com/K9z52mQ.jpg

toledoashley 9th Jan 2019 17:45

With the road diverted, will you still be able to walk through the underpass?

LTNman 9th Jan 2019 19:04

The road is being diverted once it exits the tunnel. A look at the above photo shows the pavement being tarmaced that will connect to the tunnel.

LGS6753 10th Jan 2019 15:46

Airline Route is reporting another growth spurt from WizzAir UK:
Wizz Air in December 2018 announced service expansion at London Luton, including the launch of 6 new routes in the 3rd quarter of 2019. The airline will also expand operational frequencies on existing routes.

All routes listed below is operated by Wizz Air UK (W9).

London Luton – Bergen eff 01JUL19 4 weekly A321
London Luton – Catania eff 17SEP19 3 weekly A320
London Luton – Oslo eff 16SEP19 1 daily A321
London Luton – Porto eff 02JUL19 3 weekly A321
London Luton – Thessaloniki eff 01JUL19 4 weekly A321
London Luton – Turku eff 02JUL19 3 weekly A320

Other frequency increases:
London Luton – Athens eff 16SEP19 Increase from 7 to 11 weekly
London Luton – Chisinau eff 04APR19 Increase from 9 to 10 weekly
London Luton – Constanta eff 01JUL19 Increase from 4 to 5 weekly
London Luton – Larnaca eff 01JUL19 Increase from 10 to 14 weekly
London Luton – Suceava eff 17SEP19 Increase from 7 to 10 weekly
London Luton – Tirana eff 02JUL19 Increase from 5 to 7 weekly

LGS6753 11th Jan 2019 19:24

FlyBe has sold its Gatwick slots to Vueling. Does that mean a Vueling move from Luton to south of the river?

Yahoo!® 11th Jan 2019 21:34

Fingers crossed

Buster the Bear 12th Jan 2019 11:31

Rumour has it, Luton to India soon with a possible stop on route.

dvc 13th Jan 2019 12:52


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10349923)
True! Next question then, why did they go for Taxiway Hotel and not Gulf, something else in future planning?

Golf gonna be the current A1 or Alpha extension to 26 threshold

davidjohnson6 13th Jan 2019 13:01


Originally Posted by Buster the Bear (Post 10358689)
Rumour has it, Luton to India soon with a possible stop on route.

Buster - would that be IndiGo flying via Turkey by any chance ?

dvc 13th Jan 2019 13:03


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 10359419)
Buster - would that be IndiGo flying via Turkey by any chance ?

I heard Air India direct. Maybe 787?

LTNman 13th Jan 2019 13:09

I can't even remember when a new airline came to Luton to start a new scheduled service. Don't think there were any in 2018. Can't see what appeal Luton would have for an airline like Air India so I can't see it happening. More like someone's fantasy if you ask me.

Buster the Bear 13th Jan 2019 15:37

No idea as to the airline, but rumoured to be happening.

Even less Vueling, as the Amsterdam base is to become Level.

PAXboy 13th Jan 2019 17:23

Luton Town and the area has a substantial community with origins/family in the sub-continent. Well worth a try.

pabely 13th Jan 2019 17:35


Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 (Post 10359419)
Buster - would that be IndiGo flying via Turkey by any chance ?

IndiGo code share with Turkish so not likely

LTNman 13th Jan 2019 18:19


Originally Posted by PAXboy (Post 10359623)
Luton Town and the area has a substantial community with origins/family in the sub-continent. Well worth a try.

Yes mainly Pakistani and not Indians who I would think don't get on too well with each other if history is anything to go by.

Edit. Just looked up the figures, just 5.23% which is 10,600 people have Indian heritage

gilesdavies 14th Jan 2019 10:42

Instead of the airport being hell bent on trying to get a route to India launched which is a very specific market and have been trying to do this for years, with the rumour almost cropping up on an annual basis.

I think the airport should try to woah airlines like Qatar Airways and get a route to Doha launched with numerous onward connections to Aylesbury, Australia and Africa.

Looking at the Stansted thread, the new Emirates route seems to be a smash hit, and LTN could promote a Qatar route as an alternative without being in direct competition to anyone else and offering an alternative to the North London/Home Counties market. Also they have the 787-8 which could operate from the airport with ease.

They are already opening up routes at smaller airports like Gothenburg, Thessalonki, Malta, Cardiff and Malaga.

pabely 14th Jan 2019 12:03


Originally Posted by gilesdavies (Post 10360212)
Instead of the airport being hell bent on trying to get a route to India launched which is a very specific market and have been trying to do this for years, with the rumour almost cropping up on an annual basis.

I think the airport should try to woah airlines like Qatar Airways and get a route to Doha launched with numerous onward connections to Aylesbury, Australia and Africa.

Looking at the Stansted thread, the new Emirates route seems to be a smash hit, and LTN could promote a Qatar route as an alternative without being in direct competition to anyone else and offering an alternative to the North London/Home Counties market. Also they have the 787-8 which could operate from the airport with ease.

They are already opening up routes at smaller airports like Gothenburg, Thessalonki, Malta, Cardiff and Malaga.

Perhaps the Aylesbury MP should wade in, like a MP has supporting an Indian route! Seriously though a premium lounge would be required, it was done for Silverjet who might still be around if they could have had Dreamliner, even a 777 which are starting to be scrapped, one arrived at Kemble this weekend! El Al have stopped 787 into Luton because it cannot do the one way system, once the proposed new stands come online that might change.
I think the 321LR will have it's day at some point in Luton, just when. NEO with either engine option is just not up to scratch yet.

Falcon666 14th Jan 2019 13:37


Falcon666 14th Jan 2019 13:43


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10360278)
El Al have stopped 787 into Luton because it cannot do the one way system, once the proposed new stands come online that might change.
I think the 321LR will have it's day at some point in Luton, just when. NEO with either engine option is just not up to scratch yet.

Don’t think EL AL have ever used the 787 into Luton, think your referring to the 777 but yes it’s prevented from passing the Easy hangar unless under tow.

LTNman 14th Jan 2019 13:57


Instead of the airport being hell bent on trying to get a route to India launched which is a very specific market and have been trying to do this for years, with the rumour almost cropping up on an annual basis.
What makes you think the airport is targeting an Indian route? It is only random rumours here that keeps the light burning.


El Al have stopped 787 into Luton because it cannot do the one way system, once the proposed new stands come online that might change

Don’t think EL AL have ever used the 787 into Luton, think your referring to the 777 but yes it’s prevented from passing the Easy hangar unless under tow.
I have never ever seen even their 737's use the bridge. All their aircraft use taxiway Delta to arrive and depart with a follow me vehicle leading the way. Remember there are the south stands available if needed for larger aircraft.

The airport has an issue in attracting any new airline to Luton as it seems focused on its existing carriers to provide growth.

Buster the Bear 14th Jan 2019 17:40

I wonder if Luton airport will offer similar? https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/b...stay-1-5850873

LTNman 14th Jan 2019 17:56

A cynical attempt by Stansted to keep wage rates low. I watched an interview with an employer moaning that without his EU workforce he would be forced to increase wage rates to attract more English.



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