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dvc 20th Dec 2018 11:52

Some large UAVs over perimeter caused Gatwick to shutdown last night.

boeing_eng 20th Dec 2018 11:58

TUI should be operating the first revenue 787 flight ex LTN this afternoon to BGI due to the LGW chaos

LTNman 20th Dec 2018 13:27

It will be interesting if the 787 can fly to Barbados non stop from Luton

LTNman 20th Dec 2018 14:15

Rossiya Airlines seems to have a departure back to Russia at 18:00 after arriving at around 16:15. Not sure if this is linked to Gatwick.

compton3bravo 20th Dec 2018 14:28

Plus two more TUI flights - Agadir and Arrecife.

compton3bravo 20th Dec 2018 14:49

Apologies that should be Las Palmas not Arrecife.

whitelighter 20th Dec 2018 16:22


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10340221)
WOW Air diverted from LGW, surprised it didn't go to STN

STN refused any extra diverts from 0500 onwards

AFTN message sent declaring the airport at capacity

compton3bravo 20th Dec 2018 18:10

Another WOW on its way this evening.

pamann 20th Dec 2018 18:28


Originally Posted by compton3bravo (Post 10340733)
Another WOW on its way this evening.

Are you sure?

WW814 is showing on the Stansted arrivals due 2015.

pabely 20th Dec 2018 19:12

WW814A just arriving LTN

Buster the Bear 20th Dec 2018 19:52

Some of the easyJet flights arrived following PAN calls due lowering fuel.

LTNman 21st Dec 2018 04:19

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Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10340442)
It will be interesting if the 787 can fly to Barbados non stop from Luton






Just checked Flightradar 24, with the aircraft G-TUIE departing very late and with around a half hour to go before landing the 787 is indeed flying non stop to Barbados from Luton. I am assuming that with it being close to Christmas the flight would have been full.

Edit, just landed after a flight of 8 hours 15 minutes.

LGS6753 21st Dec 2018 08:02

Despite Gatwick opening, I see the Wow Air flight this morning remains on the Arrival board.
I also see that Blue Air are code-sharing with Cyprus Airways on their Larnaca flights.

gilesdavies 21st Dec 2018 11:48


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10341149)
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Just checked Flightradar 24, with the aircraft G-TUIE departing very late and with around a half hour to go before landing the 787 is indeed flying non stop to Barbados from Luton. I am assuming that with it being close to Christmas the flight would have been full.

Edit, just landed after a flight of 8 hours 15 minutes.

I think the same TUI 787-8's also operate non-stop to the US and Caribbean from Bristol, which has an even shorter runway than Luton, but good to know the airport's infrastructure can support today's newer modern aircraft on these longer routes!

Was this a cruise ship flight? I'm guessing if so, there was a need to get these passengers expedited out to the ship as quick as possible, before the ship departed.

I think the 787-9 might have been a bit more of a struggle to operate non-stop from the airport.

TUI are in a fortunate position with it being winter where a lot of the fleet is not in as much demand, as during the summer and can support these extra flights while the LGW base was grounded.

22/04 21st Dec 2018 12:39

Although Barbados may be within performance the 787-8 form Luton yesterday, it was not a hot summer day and there was a good headwind component for take off.

pamann 21st Dec 2018 12:48

I think some of you need to put this into respective And calm your excitement.

The TUI Barbados flight was a divert due to the LGW drone incident. It wasn’t a proving flight for LTN 787 longhaul ops. TUI are more than knowledgeable on what their 787 can do and from where. All TUI’s eggs are in one basket. That basket is called LGW so I’d stop getting over excited and get a grip on reality. They won’t be launching 787 longhaul flights from LTN any time soon due to an unscheduled divert that happened yesterday. End of.

LTNman 21st Dec 2018 12:58

pamann You have completely missed the point. No one has suggested proving flights, no one is getting excited, no one has suggested TUI long haul. WE all know it was a Gatwick flight. The point that was being made is how far the 787 has travelled non stop from Luton. End of.

Now calm down and stop getting excited.

gilesdavies 21st Dec 2018 13:07


Originally Posted by pamann (Post 10341451)
I think some of you need to put this into respective And calm your excitement.

The TUI Barbados flight was a divert due to the LGW drone incident. It wasn’t a proving flight for LTN 787 longhaul ops. TUI are more than knowledgeable on what their 787 can do and from where. All TUI’s eggs are in one basket. That basket is called LGW so I’d stop getting over excited and get a grip on reality. They won’t be launching 787 longhaul flights from LTN any time soon due to an unscheduled divert that happened yesterday. End of.

I'm firmly a grip of reality and aware of why the flight was operating out of LTN...

It is not everyday a long haul fully loaded wide body operates out of Luton, and think this is the first 787 long haul flight to operate from the airport! I was simply acknowledging it was good to see what capabilities the airports runway/infrastructure can support with this aircraft type.

I'm very pleased to hear you confirm TUI know what they were doing with their 787's! I thought they might just fully load a 787 up and take pot-luck chance to see if it will clear the end of the runway and or just take a chance, if they have enough fuel to get to Barbados non-stop and if not just ditch in the Atlantic! {Sarcasm} :rolleyes:

Unfortunately I'm not a pilot, and don't have the 787 hand books to hand to check the technical operational requirements of the aircraft!

dvc 21st Dec 2018 14:12

787-8 needs 2600 meters of dry runway in standard atmosphere at maximum takeoff weight. The colder it gets the less they need. Luton is just shy of 2200 meters. Don't have proper tables on me at the moment tho

Level bust 21st Dec 2018 15:12

The TUI cruise I'm going on in February goes from Jamaica. I suspect (although I may be wrong) it's just a normal bucket and spade flight, especially as there are passengers out there that need to get home.

pamann 21st Dec 2018 16:10

Some of you are clearly over excited. Maybe lay off the Xmas Sherries. :p

LTNman 21st Dec 2018 16:25

Merry Christmas pamann.

Gatwick
closed again

ImPlaneCrazy 21st Dec 2018 16:46

LTN starting to take its first diverts from the second LGW closure.... EZY TFS on approach with a few more shortly behind...

dvc 21st Dec 2018 17:53

7 Easyjet diverted to LTN and 1 Thomson. 2 easy are 321s all up on south apron and cargo

pabely 21st Dec 2018 18:55

Hope they get back to LGW overnight, hell of a busy shedule tomorrow, GVA almost hourly with EZY.

compton3bravo 21st Dec 2018 18:55

Plus a Vueling A319 from Florence.

LTNman 21st Dec 2018 21:03

Wonder why then don’t use the run up bay, which could squeeze in two airbuses?

dvc 22nd Dec 2018 11:37

They need it for remote hold. It's more important than you may think. And Bravo extension doesn't make much difference when runway 26 is in operation, so it's better to park them over there. By the way, the plan was to put next one in run up bay but luckily Gatwick reopened.

Captain_Caveman 23rd Dec 2018 00:34


Originally Posted by dvc (Post 10342154)
They need it for remote hold. It's more important than you may think. And Bravo extension doesn't make much difference when runway 26 is in operation, so it's better to park them over there. By the way, the plan was to put next one in run up bay but luckily Gatwick reopened.

there were two in the run up bay overnight early on Friday morning... the ivalo and agadir diverts were towed there after offloading passengers on the taxiway.


LTNman 23rd Dec 2018 20:38

Don’t know if anyone else has mentioned this but Alitalia are using an AZ code on Blue Air’s Turin service. Been that way for a while now.

pabely 23rd Dec 2018 21:24

AZ & Blue Air Turin
 
Yes noted on #2094 by LGS6753

LTNman 24th Dec 2018 03:22

I just knew someone was going to quote that post. Look again, that was a code share with Cyprus Airways to Larnaca. This is a code share with Alitalia to Turin.

Sad day for Luton last week with the removal of Monarch signage and logo from the front of their former HQ. Building to let banners have been put up instead as a period of refurbishment takes place from January by a company that has bought the building.

Lee Baker Street 24th Dec 2018 05:53

Monarch
 
Firstly wishing everyone a Merry Christmas and happy new year.

LTNMan, whilst Monarch Aircraft Engineering continue to flourish, having succeeded 50 years of excellent aircraft engineering, the name Monarch will be a name to be seen at its spiritual home at LTN for decades to come.

I like to think that one day the Monarch livery will one day take to the skies once more.

LTNman 24th Dec 2018 06:37


Originally Posted by Lee Baker Street (Post 10343434)

LTNMan, whilst Monarch Aircraft Engineering continue to flourish, having succeeded 50 years of excellent aircraft engineering, the name Monarch will be a name to be seen at its spiritual home at LTN for decades to come.

Unlikely to be that scenario but time will tell.

southside bobby 24th Dec 2018 06:47

Also not previously mentioned was the announcement in October that Greybull Capital LLP became the majority shareholder in MAEL & MAEL`s lenders PNC will continue to provide facilities & support.

pabely 24th Dec 2018 06:47

As MAEL is up for sale, the Monarch name almost certainly will disappear.

LTNman 24th Dec 2018 07:20

2019 will be a big year for Luton as the council and LLAL announce their preferred option for airport expansion. The consultation was a fictitious exercise because it was always planned to be on the adjoining Wigmore Park, as the council already owned the land. The locals are not happy but the argument goes that people who don’t like airports should not live next to one but those same residents bought homes that had a large park and county wildlife site sitting between the airport and their homes and didn't expect to see a major park built on.

A new website has been created https://stoplae.org to fight that proposal. Not many here will sympathise as there is no such thing as too many flights in their eyes but for every action there is a consequence. The group has produced a video with quite haunting music that shows what Luton will lose. This is a town with very limited green areas within its border so don’t just dismiss them as tree huggers. Watch the video and reflect.
https://stoplae.files.wordpress.com/...r-HD-SLAE-.mp4

davidjohnson6 24th Dec 2018 07:32

Have seen what happened to Lowfield Heath near Gatwick... worth walking around what remains of that village

compton3bravo 24th Dec 2018 12:00

I see that Wizz have 17 departures between 1850 and midnight today. It was not that long ago that the last departure of any kind left about 1600
To all ppruners Feliz Navidad.

LTNman 24th Dec 2018 13:08

Christmas Day departures are now starting to appear on the airports website and are showing Wizz departures. Don’t think they have ever operated on Christmas Day before from Luton.


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