Luton-9
1. Amsterdam - 509.104
2. Budapest - 391,912 3. Bucharest - 380,742 4. Barcelona - 344,927 5. Warsaw - 296,033 6. Tel Aviv - 278,525 7. Dublin - 240,825 8. Malaga - 238,530 9. Faro - 228,969 10. Copenhagen - 225,317 11. Belfast - 223,624 12. Cluj-Napoca - 219,297 13. Geneva - 216,278 14. Palma de Mallorca - 211,451 15. Katowice - 211,370 16. Edinburgh - 204,605 17. Gdansk - 195,697 18. Sofia - 192,447 19. Paris Charles de Gaulle - 190,725 20. Alicante - 189,290 Source: LLA Statistics |
Originally Posted by toledoashley
(Post 9897126)
Giles - If my understanding is correct, it is likely that Jet2 will get the MAX order and operation excluding Luton and Gatwick. Slots at Gatwick/Luton most likely to go to easyJet.
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easyJet Schedule (24th March 2018 - 24th June 2018)
ABZ 5
ALC 15 AMS 40 AYT 2 BCN 20 BSL 7 BFS 24 SXF 13 BJV 2 BOD 7 CFU 5 HER 3 PFO 5 DTM 7 DBV 3 EDI 22 ESU 2 FAO 17 GVA 13 GLA 16 HAM 6 IBZ 7 INV 12 IOM 3 JER 5 ACE 2 LIS 19 LYS 6 MAD 9 PMI 16 (Jun, varies massively other months) AGP 20 MRS 4 MAH 3 MXP 14 MUC 6 JMK 2 NTE 4 NAP 7 NCE 16 CDG 21 PSA 8 OPO 4 KEF 6 RHO 2 FCO 6 AHO 3 OLB 2 SVQ 3 CTA 4 SPU 4 ARN 4 TLV 12 TFS 3 TLS 6 VLC 3 VCE 7 VIE 4 ZAD 2 ZRH 5 = 498 weekly departures (with June PMI) BIQ & MPL not loaded |
HAM appears to end on 24th March 2018 on the easyJet website, not loaded for next summer yet
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EZY to operate around 500 flights per week next summer, but that's not too far ahead of WZZ, who are currently operating about 350.
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Which points to the fact that including routes from Easyjet, Tarom, Blue Air and Ryanair around half of all passengers using Luton are Eastern Europeans.
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Does anyone know whether Thomas Cook are returning next year?
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No evidence of a Thomas Cook presence @ LTN in 2018...credit their own Summer 18 short haul timetable in PDF format..
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From the Luton rumour mill. Norwegian looking into setting up a UK base at Luton with Luton as the UK HQ using Monarch assets I here.
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Monarch has such a long history at Luton which goes back 50 years from its inception. I hope it survives for another 50 years but if its name does disappear Norwegian could be very good for Luton and they could just snap up some of those new slots that will be coming to Luton with the completion of this phase of building work.
I guess it is a case of watch this space as easyjet and Wizz could do battle with a new boy on the Luton block. |
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/busines...l-sources-say/
I would suggest the prime targets are the slots for Manchester and Gatwick. A Luton base may just be a re-branding of current Monarch routes, should such a take over happen? |
Regarding the new LTN base for wizz air. What routes is the 1 based aircraft operating each day. ???
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I think officially there is one based aircraft but in reality 3 Wizz aircraft night stopped for the summer peak. No idea about what is happening for the winter season or even now.
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Originally Posted by Buster the Bear
(Post 9900672)
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/busines...l-sources-say/
I would suggest the prime targets are the slots for Manchester and Gatwick. A Luton base may just be a re-branding of current Monarch routes, should such a take over happen? |
Could they not move some short haul from Gatwick freeing slots for long haul. Just a thought.
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They are also looking for feeder traffic for the long-haul, thus the recent deal with easyJet and the 'failed' agreement with Ryanair.
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Originally Posted by compton3bravo
(Post 9901248)
Could they not move some short haul from Gatwick freeing slots for long haul. Just a thought.
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I have always thought the same, easyJet should at least be 2 daily on weekends, with maybe an extra on a weekday, increasing to 9 weekly. Since Ryanair launched Faro head to head with easyJet, I have thought that maybe they might try LTN-IBZ.
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Agree IBZ is a good money maker and if you look at STN on a Saturday they have 7 flights to Ibiza with multiple carriers it one of those routes that sell well and fill well.
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I have always thought the same, easyJet should at least be 2 daily on weekends, with maybe an extra on a weekday, increasing to 9 weekly. Since Ryanair launched Faro head to head with easyJet, I have thought that maybe they might try LTN-IBZ. Luton is the only London base they don't have competition on this route from another carrier at the same airport (with the exception of Southend and thats not a proper London airport), and have probably taken a view. That the price conscious traveller will fly to IBZ from another of their London bases and where they have to operate the same route cheaper to compete with the competition, reserving the seats out LTN for the people willing to pay more. The Faro route is operate by an aircraft from Ryanair's base there and they don't operate a base out of IBZ. The LTN based aircraft for Ryanair, their schedule is pretty much maxxed out and with the exception of CPH (when that operated), Ryanair and easyJet seem to keep their distance at competing on routes. |
You state that SEN is not a 'proper London airport'. What is your basis for that assertion?
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Rumour Mill Alert! 🚨
As loaders we hear all kinds of rubbish but this one is strange
We heard today from an EZY manager (former loader colleague) that the airport are in talks with them to relocate out of the big orange eyesore hanger and rip it down to explore all possibilities for the Mass Passenger Transit System? The airport are in frequent talks with EZY to find possible land for the new Hangar they require. Sounding stupid but easyJet’s response was also strange. Apparently from the roumor, some staff will be going soon and either relocating to their Euro HQ or down the job centre. From what we hear it’s kinda uncertain times for the big orange at LTN Sounds stupid and unlikely to me but thought I’d share. |
I mentioned sometime ago that easyjet had outgrown their HQ and were looking for somewhere else close to the airport but I can’t remember now who told me. That might not be the case now that some of their jobs might move to the European mainland.
I also said before it was announced that the site of the orange hanger would be a good location for a station. With the station build delayed until the multi story is built they have time for second thoughts. The issue though is the timescale. Doubt the hangar could go in under 4 years. |
May there be another HQ become available soon... maybe?
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Originally Posted by Planespeaking
(Post 9903156)
You state that SEN is not a 'proper London airport'. What is your basis for that assertion?
I'm not looking to get into any arguments about it, which I'm sure you are gunning for, and I'm sure the SEN fanboys will disagree with my view. However as you asked, I said that as: - It is not considered a London airport if you search booking engines on major travel websites with just "London" or "LDN", with it only returning results for LHR, LGW, STN, LTN and LCY. - The airport doesn't fall under London ATC. - Public Transport to the capital early morning and late at night to/from London is almost impossible if you are catching a flight before 7.30am and arriving after 10pm. With it being a minor base for easyJet and FlyBE/Stobart Air, early departures and late arrivals are inevitable. It sounds a very respectable little regional secondary airport for the people of Essex to use, but that's all it is. Being on par with the likes of Exeter, Humberside or Doncaster, just serving the locality. That's all I'll say in the matter, in this forum, as it's a little off topic. |
gilesdavies
Well I don't know if you don't consider Kayak, Skyscanner, Expedia, Opodo and Booking.com "major travel websites" but they all show SEN when 'London, all airports' is selected as the departure point. I didn't bother checking more than those five. The official London tourist website visitlondon.com lists SEN. IATA recognises SEN as a London airport. Yes, a very good idea not to say any more I think. |
Plenty of business for all of London Airports. SEN could add another million or two and the other London Airports would not even notice.
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I understand that Gulfstream will be leaving Luton for Stansted. Who will take their hangar? Sadly they cannot find a location to build a larger complex at Luton.
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The hangar back to Signature?
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Buster, we knew about this back in June, posted on Luton -8
They already have an operation at STN but I was told they are moving to a new complex at another site, south of the river. |
The assumption was the Luton operation would continue, but staff have very recently been told they will all be leaving at some point to Stansted having not found an agreeable site to expand into at Luton.
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Ryanair Seasonal Flights from LTN?
I was hoping there might be someone on here with a good memory and previously remember what routes Ryanair was operating this winter from LTN...
Ryanair yesterday announced it was cutting a number of routes for the winter period at short notice, on top of the flights cancelled a few weeks ago. While none in the announcement yesterday are saying Luton is effected. I've noticed Faro and Las Palmas are going to to end in October and restart next year in April. Was this always the intention and has it previously shown up on there booking system as so? I was under the impression both these routes were year round. Especially when you consider FAO and LPA are popular winter destinations. I was just wondering if they had stealthily suspended the routes and will automatically transfer people on to these routes from STN. Because at the end of the day they still have the route operating in the sense of to/from London, all be it just from Stansted now. |
Originally Posted by gilesdavies
(Post 9906536)
I was hoping there might be someone on here with a good memory and previously remember what routes Ryanair was operating this winter from LTN...
Ryanair yesterday announced it was cutting a number of routes for the winter period at short notice, on top of the flights cancelled a few weeks ago. While none in the announcement yesterday are saying Luton is effected. I've noticed Faro and Las Palmas are going to to end in October and restart next year in April. Was this always the intention and has it previously shown up on there booking system as so? I was under the impression both these routes were year round. Especially when you consider FAO and LPA are popular winter destinations. I was just wondering if they had stealthily suspended the routes and will automatically transfer people on to these routes from STN. Because at the end of the day they still have the route operating in the sense of to/from London, all be it just from Stansted now. London Luton: 15 routes including Fuertaventura (2 wkly), Lanzarote (2 wkly), Malta (4 wkly) & Tenerife (2 wkly) 72 weekly flights 1.6m customers p.a |
Originally Posted by gilesdavies
(Post 9906536)
I was hoping there might be someone on here with a good memory and previously remember what routes Ryanair was operating this winter from LTN...
Ryanair yesterday announced it was cutting a number of routes for the winter period at short notice, on top of the flights cancelled a few weeks ago. While none in the announcement yesterday are saying Luton is effected. I've noticed Faro and Las Palmas are going to to end in October and restart next year in April. Was this always the intention and has it previously shown up on there booking system as so? I was under the impression both these routes were year round. Especially when you consider FAO and LPA are popular winter destinations. I was just wondering if they had stealthily suspended the routes and will automatically transfer people on to these routes from STN. Because at the end of the day they still have the route operating in the sense of to/from London, all be it just from Stansted now. |
Seems like there was some sort of meeting yesterday with a committee that wants to keep the local park intact.
There was talk of a terminal 2 going in on the long term car park with a single pier. This came from the committee rather then the airport who apparently looked a little surprised that they knew something was afoot. Something like this was drawn up by the committee as to what might be going through the airports mind. https://i.imgur.com/zM6RkYU.jpg?1 |
We will await to hear from LTNman whether he attended?
I think most here always suspected that a T2 would be on the cards at some point. |
Lets just say all that is lacking in the above interpretation is the wavy line for the DART link to T2. Can't think who drew the original.
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Originally Posted by LTNman
(Post 9906773)
Lets just say all that is lacking in the above interpretation is the wavy line for the DART link to T2.;) Can't think who drew the original.
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Construction update
Hints of what is to come with the lattice work now in place over the future entrance to the security hall. The retail outlets will be the other side of the hoarding in the new build.
https://i.imgur.com/pQR9IxQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tTcfxMC.jpg Work has started to finish off the front of the terminal. Note the cover that will block the view of the old terminal balcony. The ground in front of the terminal is now being raised with hardcore. https://i.imgur.com/JQr5hCZ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/3sMzXQM.jpg The roundabout has been planted. https://i.imgur.com/e8rgpKR.jpg Work has started to tidy up the surplus building material dumping ground. This is set to become the car hire centre car park after the new multistory is built but in the meantime it will slightly add a few parking bays as half the short term car park is due to close after Christmas. https://i.imgur.com/4utRCxc.jpg |
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