What is happening to (NO) Prospect House, the old Monarch headquarters building? It is surrounded by fencing. Who is going to take it on? |
That would require a planning application and none has gone in so far for change of use.
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New Wizz route starts today - Kharkov second largest city in Ukraine.
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Wonder how the Wizz route to Lviv is doing, now it faces competition from FR at STN? (and Kyiv to that effect, albeit different airports).
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https://www.arup.com/projects/dart-london-luton-airport
Strange things are happening at the site of the terminal DART station. Instead of digging out the soil between the foundation columns a large part of it has been capped in concrete and then smoothed with a swirling machine to get a smooth finish. Now why would they want to do that I am thinking???? |
Always like a mystery. Photos shows a large area of concrete at the station site that should be a hole for a subterranean station. Speculation anyone?
https://i.imgur.com/85k1zi2.jpg |
LTNman I think what you are looking at will eventually be a floor section of the station. Rather than “ cut and cover “ this is more “ cover and dig” I think you will find this section is on hydraulics allowing the underneath to be dug out, when this is done the whole section will be lowered to become the floor. Possibly they will do this with another section using a digger and conveyor system to remove the soil. Think we need Constuctors Input to confirm but it looks impressive. |
Would have thought it would be easier to dig a hole and lay a floor. The interesting thing is that this is smooth concrete like found on the floors inside new homes so it would seem to indicate it is a floor. Also I didn't see any reinforcement rods being laid before the concrete was poured. Might have missed it but I don't think so. Also there is what looks like a small metal cover which can be seen in the photo and which looks like wet concrete. Wonder what that is for?
Also thinking we need input from Constructor. |
I am curious as to which way they will excavate, it’s looking like towards taxiway delta but I may be wrong. Keep an eye out for a second section! At least they will be able to work underground and not be exposed to the elements, could this be their thinking as winter is coming? |
Why don't you go down there an ask them :-)
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Well, the could tell him but then they'd have to.... :E
Actually, don't tell anybody but it's the new top secret bunker HQ for EZY's new mega-regional feeder airline created by taking over Flybe/Stobart/Loganair/BMIR :suspect: (can't have this thread missing out on the BE frenzy! :ok:) |
Originally Posted by lfc84
(Post 10311129)
Why don't you go down there an ask them :-)
Like many I rely on LTNman for the updates. |
I have no details of this contract so here is my calculated guess. This layer of concrete appears to have been laid to a very high spec. I think it will be a temporary layer immediately under the roof slab. If so the next work will be to lay a membrane which will act as a debonding layer to the roof slab concrete. After the membrane will come the reinforcing bars, lots of them will be fixed. The roof slab thickness will be 800- 1000 mm thick. The roof slab will also act as a horizontal column holding up the piles. Piles, concrete or steel, can only hold up soil to about 3m deep freestanding. Over that depth you need propping, called temporary works. My guess is that this dig will be 7m deep. The structure being formed is a box or an n shape. Once the roof slab is formed excavation inside the box will occur including the concrete you can see today. A very efficient method of construction. The next few days will be interesting. Hope I am right. |
Constructor, Many thanks for your input, looking forward to the updates from LTNman. |
Noticed that at one end there is definitely a curve on the concrete. Today they seemed to be hand polishing it with some sort of material or cloth.
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Over 1.5 million passengers passed through the airport in October a 7.9 per cent increase compared to October 2017. the
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Originally Posted by lfc84
(Post 10311129)
Why don't you go down there an ask them :-)
As much I enjoy the updates and photos provided by LTNman and I really do honestly and I'm under the impression that he is local to LTN and I'm not sure if he actually works at the airport but the amount of time that he does spend at the airport taking photos personally I would be asking for as much information as possible from the contractors onsite regarding developments at the airport rather than making wild guesses. There has to be an actual reason behind the laying of this concrete! Go on LTNman next time your at the airport doing your next photo update go down and ask the contractors what's going on, because we all want to know now :-) |
Oh and whilst you are at it, a comment from the airport operator about Taxiway Foxtrot :) |
Easier said than done. There are 5 sets of contractors working at Luton who are working on 4 major projects. Then there are the dozens of subcontractors who are all doing their own thing so it is not always straight forward who is doing what. The projects are being carried out behind secure fences or in the case of the DART behind hordings. I am inclined not to loiter around a turnstile for long periods like a roving reporter hoping that I speak to an individual who has an oversight of the big picture. Saying that I do actually have a senior contact for the principal contractor so I will send him an email and ask the question. As for the rest of the DART outside the airport boundary work has recently started on the earthworks for the bridge that will cross the A1081 on the Parkway side. The steelwork for the bridge will be assembled on a pocket of land opposite the Ibis hotel and then taken to site. The span will be 72m long as it will have to cross a dual carriageway and at the same time the beginnings of the sliproad to the airport which is also two lanes. Also I only take photos when I am in the mood and when there are enough changes to warrant them. With so much going on at the moment the frequency has gone up so it is a bit of a balancing act not to over do them here. Finally guessing is half the fun so just think of it as a rumour. |
Seems I was a bit premature about the Blue air Larnaca flights for summer 2019. Now showing four weekly but no sign of Turin flights for next summer.
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The answer
I have managed to get an answer for you from one of our section engineers. You are quiet correct that the station will be underground but the site is basically in two parts, one part is the station and the other part is the maintenance area. The concreted area will be dug underneath to form the maintenance area but it’s a very small site with a lot going on within it so we are doing it this way for logistical reasons. |
Little off current topic. Got confirmation from crew (and they have it officially as a warning ) that current multistorey still occasionally messes up with the ILS. It has been covered with some special paint but it haven't fully resolve the issue
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The only paint that has been applied since the building was built is the matching grey paint that covers most of the exterior breeze blocks which compared to the size of the building is only about 1%.
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Hi Guys, off to Vienna in a couple of weeks. I'm parking the car in Mid Term and was just wondering due to all the construction, whether or not I'm still able to walk from the car park to the Ibis (staying the night) and then walk from the Ibis to the terminal the following morning? Cheers :)
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Originally Posted by nema/robin hood
(Post 10313667)
Hi Guys, off to Vienna in a couple of weeks. I'm parking the car in Mid Term and was just wondering due to all the construction, whether or not I'm still able to walk from the car park to the Ibis (staying the night) and then walk from the Ibis to the terminal the following morning? Cheers :)
The dual carriageway upgrades have all been completed now . There are two Ibis hotels now , but they are pretty much opposite each other. |
Talking of hotels the Courtyard by Marriott has now opened. The hotel rooms were premade in Eastern Europe and craned into position. The airport now has 6 hotels if the hotel by Parkway is included. |
Bizjet Night Quota
Someone mentioned to me that LTN has recently imposed a bizjet night movement quota. Is this the case and if so what is the quota and is it permanent? |
No restrictions on Notam also this
Signature Flight Support | London Luton Airport Night Noise Closures Also looks like for 2019 only the really noisy aircraft will be banned at night 2019 RESTRICTIONS Aircraft exceeding noise quotient QC1 standard will be ineligible for night-time slots during the summer of 2019. |
The airport was NOTAM for full closure last and this weekend from 0001z to 0530z, maybe confused with the noise quotas in place as well?
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London North
Originally Posted by Falcon666
(Post 10314296)
All BHX can hope for is that the restrictions continue down south as it needs all it can get and although in the middle of their own annual night closures (week nights) it must add a tiny bit to the bottom line although I believe a couple of diversions the other night got trapped by the night closure. Ironic really, as the one genuine excuse for the lack of choice of long-haul from BHX is its proximity to London and Manchester but its location also works in its favour (although the article does say not ideal) with all types of diversions whether it is night closures, runways blocked or weather . Pete |
Still surprises me that the LUTON-WATERFORD flights still haven't found an operator to support them.
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Originally Posted by Sharklet_321
(Post 10315209)
Still surprises me that the LUTON-WATERFORD flights still haven't found an operator to support them.
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Originally Posted by Sharklet_321
(Post 10315209)
Still surprises me that the LUTON-WATERFORD flights still haven't found an operator to support them.
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Construction update
Panoramic view showing the construction close to the terminal entrance, the DART site, the second multistory and in the distance taxiway Foxtrot with its de-icing pads that is under construction.
https://i.imgur.com/32AvMVK.jpg The walk to the drop off zone is quite a trek. From here passengers pass under the ring road. https://i.imgur.com/TrQPGQQ.jpg Looks like the passenger route from the underpass to the drop off zone will soon be changing and will pass through the site of the multistory. https://i.imgur.com/Xl6QoOh.jpg Work has started on what looks like one of the stairway cores to the multistory, As this is right by the fence of the temporary drop off zone I would conclude that eventually the temporary drop off zone will be reduced in size to accommodate the access road to the new drop off zone that will be on the ground floor of the multistory. As can be seen to the left the last 3 drop off lanes have indeed been reduced with a new fence that has been erected. https://i.imgur.com/mOQ1dw2.jpg With the ground being raised to reduce the angle of the slope tarmacking is taking place on the main passenger route to the terminal https://i.imgur.com/8Hf8fDW.jpg The last sections of the bus station canopy have arrived onsite. https://i.imgur.com/RnihahI.jpg |
Why not use LTN above the sign instead of LLA this can be very confusing for passengers from countries that use the code of the airport over the airport name this is a big pet hate of mine. you wouldn’t fly to JFK and see NYA as a code or what can be conceived as a code. |
Originally Posted by daz211
(Post 10315486)
Why not use LTN above the sign instead of LLA this can be very confusing for passengers from countries that use the code of the airport over the airport name this is a big pet hate of mine. you wouldn’t fly to JFK and see NYA as a code or what can be conceived as a code. |
Brand?...
Mmmmmm sounds very expensive...someone paying a pretty penny to agencies to devise the obvious perhaps. |
It actually took me months to figure out the logo stood for LLA as I thought it was just a series of random boxes.
Watch the video contained in the link for the story of BS https://icodesign.com/work/london-luton-airport |
Originally Posted by pabely
(Post 10315507)
It's all about the London Luton Airport Brand, you will see the same styling throughout in yellows, oranges and pinks, when the DART gets finished the same will be shown at key London termini https://identitydesigned.com/london-luton-airport/
If an unsuspecting passengers Google’s LLA the top results show Luton Airport it is not inconceivable the someone could end up in LTN expecting to land at LLA. Is it even legal to Brand under another Airports code ? |
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