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ExpectmorePayless 20th Nov 2018 16:02


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 10315623)


I still don’t understand why an International Airport wants to brand away from its designated IATA code and brand itself using another Airports code LLA is the code for Luleå Airport (LLA) in Sweden.
If an unsuspecting passengers Google’s LLA the top results show Luton Airport it is not inconceivable the someone could end up in LTN expecting to land at LLA.
Is it even legal to Brand under another Airports code ?

I wonder if Lulea Airport is such an inhospitable building site. Bet they wish they had bus shelters like ours.😉

daz211 20th Nov 2018 16:25


Originally Posted by ExpectmorePayless (Post 10315691)
I wonder if Lulea Airport is such an inhospitable building site. Bet they wish they had bus shelters like ours.😉

Not sure about it Bus shelter but it has 3 Jet Bridges and if you google Luleå and go to images the place look stunning and I’m definitely adding it to my list of places to visit 👍

Buster the Bear 20th Nov 2018 22:32


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 10315486)
Why not use LTN above the sign instead of LLA this can be very confusing for passengers from countries that use the code of the airport over the airport name this is a big pet hate of mine.
you wouldn’t fly to JFK and see NYA as a code or what can be conceived as a code.

Now you might have expected management to have thought similar, but then again..........

Falcon666 21st Nov 2018 11:45

Wizzair

New route

Krakow daily w/c 4 April then 2 x daily from 1 May.


That will make Easy happy, they have only recently reintroduced the route from Luton

compton3bravo 21st Nov 2018 12:32

Must have got a very good deal from the airport authorities.

pabely 21st Nov 2018 13:02


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 10315623)


I still don’t understand why an International Airport wants to brand away from its designated IATA code and brand itself using another Airports code LLA is the code for Luleå Airport (LLA) in Sweden.
If an unsuspecting passengers Google’s LLA the top results show Luton Airport it is not inconceivable the someone could end up in LTN expecting to land at LLA.
Is it even legal to Brand under another Airports code ?

You are having a laugh now, you will find no airport if you were in Canada using such a scenario, most people using google search use descriptive terms and google is very good in knowing where you are and giving appropriate results.

daz211 21st Nov 2018 13:21


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10316409)
You are having a laugh now, you will find no airport if you were in Canada using such a scenario, most people using google search use descriptive terms and google is very good in knowing where you are and giving appropriate results.

Americans use IATA codes over Airport names.
But what ever you use it still doesn’t make sense to market and re brand LTN as LLA its madness and should have been brought up in the planning stages I’m not picking on Luton Southend is also a culprit but they have an excuse as they are new and probably don’t even know the importance of the IATA code.

LTNman 21st Nov 2018 17:40

Photos taken from almost the same spot with the second photo taken a few paces back into the new build exactly 18 year apart to the day. A careful look at the ceiling in the second photo shows the red beams as reference. The first photo was taken with a slight telephoto lens while the second used a slight wide angle lens. In those days the terminal had a clear ceiling design with services below ground.

https://i.imgur.com/8W0LQyX.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Qx5sgyi.jpg

compton3bravo 26th Nov 2018 16:59

I see that the old Monarch HQ has been sold for £4.26 million by the administrators. Secured creditors will be paid including Petrol Jersey Limited which is connected to Greybull will receive £50 million but unsecured creditors will get nothing!

LTNman 27th Nov 2018 10:17

Yes but we don't know to who. The site is fenced off but work has yet to start. There are no planning applications submitted so I doubt it would be sold for a change of use without getting the wink. At the moment the indications are that it will remain an office block and with its prime location inside the airport it could be speculated it will end up with a link to aviation remaining.

Falcon666 27th Nov 2018 10:42


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10321621)
Yes but we don't know to who. The site is fenced off but work has yet to start. There are no planning applications submitted so I doubt it would be sold for a change of use without getting the wink. At the moment the indications are that it will remain an office block and with its prime location inside the airport it could be speculated it will end up with a link to aviation remaining.

Warwick Burt info states a 2.5 Million Office refit on behalf of Hampton Brook.
Apart from that no other information but will definitely stay as office block.

southside bobby 27th Nov 2018 11:20

Hampton Brook general & standard speculative office & warehousing projects.

pabely 28th Nov 2018 06:34

Direct flights to India next year!

gilesdavies 28th Nov 2018 11:29

I'll believe it when I see it:
Direct Amritsar, London flight next year: UK MP - The Tribune India

Anyone else able to add any more meat to this?

They refer to providing low-cost and direct services to India from Luton, that really does not go hand-in-hand with the airport infrastructure... Low cost to me would mean a high density configuration aircraft and that along with an aircraft type that could fly direct/non-stop would struggle to operate from airports runway!

daz211 28th Nov 2018 11:53


Originally Posted by gilesdavies (Post 10322560)
I'll believe it when I see it:
Direct Amritsar, London flight next year: UK MP - The Tribune India

Anyone else able to add any more meat to this?

As long as it’s not Flypop . Com.
They've been promising this route for about 2 years now but to STN not LTN.

pabely 28th Nov 2018 12:52


Originally Posted by daz211 (Post 10322587)

As long as it’s not Flypop . Com.
They've been promising this route for about 2 years now but to STN not LTN.

But whom might it be Jet Airways, can't see IndiGo or Spice having the correct equipment for such a route.

G-AZUK 28th Nov 2018 15:34


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10322630)
But whom might it be Jet Airways, can't see IndiGo or Spice having the correct equipment for such a route.

Indigo reported to have requested LGW slots with a one-stop 321 operation via GYD
maybe looking at Luton as an alternative?

Buster the Bear 28th Nov 2018 17:06

Indigo were in the press recently about launching routes from India to the UK with a stop at I think Azerbaijan? Report mentioned Gatwick.

Falcon666 28th Nov 2018 18:29


Originally Posted by Buster the Bear (Post 10322852)
Indigo were in the press recently about launching routes from India to the UK with a stop at I think Azerbaijan? Report mentioned Gatwick.

Buster, I am sure that’s what the poster before was saying.

If this route does indeed happen the likelihood is it will be Indigo.
They will be taking delivery of their first A321neo at year end I believe and with their intention to fly to the UK already stated it does seem to make sense.Would be a long old journey though with the stopover, some what 10+ hrs in a single aisle, high density layout.

Big Indian population around Luton so they will probably be hoping this does happen.

Buster the Bear 28th Nov 2018 18:40

I thought that I had deleted my post above, but looks like I didn't.

Buster the Bear 28th Nov 2018 18:41

IndiGo reportedly aims to commence service to London Gatwick Airport and other destinations in Europe via Tbilisi and/or Baku in Mar-2019 (Business Standard/TNN, 15/16-Nov-2018). The LCC plans to operate the proposed service to Gatwick with A321 aircraft.

pabely 28th Nov 2018 18:49

I thought it interesting that the original article quoted an MP for Slough, obviously more than Luton based Indian community involved. Just to fuel the fire, will WOW ever take their A330NEOs, if not, prime for such a route by someone taking the frames!

LTNman 28th Nov 2018 19:37


Big Indian population around Luton
Don't think there is. There is a big Pakistani based community in Luton.

Falcon666 28th Nov 2018 19:53


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10322979)
Don't think there is. There is a big Pakistani based community in Luton.

Thanks for correcting me, always led to believe there was and I was totally wrong.
Mostly Pakistani and Bangladeshi, mind you Amritsar is near the Pakistan border so maybe not all is lost!! (Joke)

pabely 28th Nov 2018 23:17


Originally Posted by Falcon666 (Post 10322915)
Big Indian population around Luton so they will probably be hoping this does happen.

Of course I meant Luton Airports catchment area which includes West & North London rather than Luton town itself.

pabely 30th Nov 2018 23:42

TfL Oyster Cards
 
Scheme extended around network, to now include LLA, making it on par with Gatwick Express.

LTNman 1st Dec 2018 05:59

The announcement says the Oyster card will be extended to Luton Airport Parkway but makes no mention of Luton Airport meaning a paper ticket will still have to be bought for the bus link or combined journey.

I also wonder how seamless the Dart rail link will be and at what cost to passengers? With the council coughing up £225 million it won’t be cheap for a link that is used by less than 3 million passengers a year at the moment.

Yesterday the rail link from London was shut down with no services running out of St Pancras for many hours due to a signal fault. I had to pick my son up from Hitchin and found a massive line of passengers trying to get to the airport with no replacement bus service offered and an empty taxi rank. I saved the travel plans of 2 random unconnected women who accepted the offer of a lift to the mid term car park when their hands went up first. One made it with 45 minutes to spare but both only had hand luggage so should have been fine. I think most in that long queue were stuffed.

pabely 1st Dec 2018 10:20

I did wonder that but report does say "Rail Minister Andrew Jones said: "This is about making access to the capital even easier for commuters and other rail travellers, including visitors to the UK arriving at Luton Airport." so whether that includes travel up the hill as well, we will have to wait and see.

dvc 1st Dec 2018 10:41


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10322941)
I thought it interesting that the original article quoted an MP for Slough, obviously more than Luton based Indian community involved. Just to fuel the fire, will WOW ever take their A330NEOs, if not, prime for such a route by someone taking the frames!

WOW seems to be going out of business.

LTNman 1st Dec 2018 11:48


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10325201)
I did wonder that but report does say "Rail Minister Andrew Jones said: "This is about making access to the capital even easier for commuters and other rail travellers, including visitors to the UK arriving at Luton Airport." so whether that includes travel up the hill as well, we will have to wait and see.

Best not to mention the 4 non stop trains an hour the airport did not get. At least though that the new Thameslink stock with its 12 carriages and the ability to walk through the train has made a big difference.

DC3 Dave 1st Dec 2018 11:49


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 10325201)
I did wonder that but report does say "Rail Minister Andrew Jones said: "This is about making access to the capital even easier for commuters and other rail travellers, including visitors to the UK arriving at Luton Airport." so whether that includes travel up the hill as well, we will have to wait and see.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...herts-46397470

The report says the scheme will extend to include Luton Parkway in early 2019, then the airport later the same year.

LTNman 1st Dec 2018 11:58

Hope it all goes to plan then. Wonder why Stansted did not get it unless they already have it?

ClearLand08 1st Dec 2018 13:26

I see Ryanair are up to their new 6 based aircraft which they announced in the summer. Also, according to flightradar24 Wizzair have 46 departures today versus just 35 for easyJet. I know it's a Saturday in early December, but still..

pabely 1st Dec 2018 15:08


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 10325275)
Hope it all goes to plan then. Wonder why Stansted did not get it unless they already have it?

No, nor LHR.

DC3 Dave 1st Dec 2018 18:48

You certainly can use PAYG oyster cards to travel between LHR and the rest of the capital, or use a contactless bank card, or a travelcard that includes zone 6. You can't however use them on the Heathrow Express because that service is not controlled by Tfl and no agreement is in place to do so.

southside bobby 1st Dec 2018 19:10

LTN/STN/SEN hopefully all included within Oyster Card zoning commencing at the latest for Euro 2020.

Oyster Cards have been available for purchase from Stansted Express for use ex train from Tottenham Hale & Liverpool St for some years.

Skipness One Foxtrot 2nd Dec 2018 13:33


No, nor LHR.
You can use OYSTER on both Tube and with TfL now running Heathrow Connect you can pay a premium to use that, just not on the soon to be pointless Heathrow Express.

LGS6753 2nd Dec 2018 17:52

Inaugural Ryanair Barcelona yesterday, just a few months after Vueling pulled the route.

Falcon666 2nd Dec 2018 18:32

Blueair start their code share with Cyprus Airways on the Larnaca route tomorrow.

pabely 2nd Dec 2018 19:41


Originally Posted by southside bobby (Post 10325618)
LTN/STN/SEN hopefully all included within Oyster Card zoning commencing at the latest for Euro.

If there are any evening games it will be fun getting a flight home after the games!


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