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kieb92 2nd Mar 2015 15:53

Looking at the current timetable for summer 2015, Jet2 will operate less flights this summer than last summer. 2014 had 1394 weekly flights and 2015 will be 1340 weekly flights. Also I know Jet2 park aircraft as spares but will have possibly 5 aircraft sat around due to the reduced number of flights.

Are there any plans to retire any 733's other than G-CELC and G-CELU which have been scrapped since last summer?

And is the timetable complete for 2015?

Jet2_738 2nd Mar 2015 19:28

There will be plans to retire some more 733's, though other than G-CELU, I don't know if any more are scheduled this winter. I believe that G-CELC, is in the process of being scrapped now.

As far as I am aware, the timetable is complete for summer 2015, or at least it should be, given that Jet2holidays are offering holidays for up to the back end of April 2016. :ok:

Skipness One Echo 2nd Mar 2015 22:54

You work for the company? This thread seems to be squawking 7500 :)

alasdair1 3rd Mar 2015 00:16

Jet 2 glasgow base
 
Hi all,
Does anyone know how many aircraft will be based at glasgow this summer ?
also which routes will the A320 opperate on from glasgow?

kind regards
Alasdair adam

BAladdy 3rd Mar 2015 02:17


also which routes will the A320 opperate on from glasgow?
LS will operate the leased A320 from GLA as follows. Info based on the schedule for early July

MON - GLA-IBZ-GLA-MJV-GLA

TUE - GLA-ALC-GLA-MAH-GLA

WED - GLA-AGP-GLA-ALC-GLA

THU - GLA-FCO-GLA-IBZ-GLA

FRI - GLA-MJV-GLA-IBZ-GLA

SAT - GLA-FAO-GLA-PMI-GLA

SUN - GLA-AGP-GLA-IBZ-GLA

LS appear to be planning to operate 6 aircraft from GLA during the S15 season peak. 5 737-800's plus the 1 leased A320 from Titan.

Not sure if LS plan to base a standby aircraft in GLA during the summer season

IB4138 3rd Mar 2015 11:51

Sorry, until payment is received, the matter cannot be discussed in any detail and is rather complex.

BTW: It is not just one delay and one instance of poor customer service that we have been on the receiving end of from Jet2.

Jet2 are this family's carrier of last resort.

IB4138 3rd Mar 2015 12:39

scratchingthesky

If you have NEVER suffered at the hands of Jet2, then you are not able to comment.

Believe all the propaganda if you wish, but don't expect everyone to.

paully 3rd Mar 2015 14:30

Sorry but everyone is entitled to make their comment..Whether or not you agree with it IB is up to you, but freedom of speech is an intrinsic part of our society. Jet 2, for what its worth,have a good reputation and I have found them fine. Friends who have been delayed have nothing but praise for their actions.

As Scratching said a thoroughly bad piece of legislation. The fundamentals were a good idea, the application will have far reaching consequences....for all of us..

garry8g 3rd Mar 2015 15:37

Hi Alistair,

I previously posted the Glasgow based A320 routes it would be flying on.
See post 1974.

Garry

Jet2_738 3rd Mar 2015 16:23


Jet2 got EVERYONE home via ferry and road, which other airline did that!
Very, Very good point scratchingthesky! LS did absolutely everything in their power to get people home, whether it was by ferry, road... They even dispatched coaches all the way from LBA to the bottom of Spain to get all of the stranded passengers back home.
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On another note, it looks like EMA based 737-800 G-GDFS has gone tech down in TFS, after performing flight EXS633 this morning. 757-200, G-LSAJ has been dispatched from LBA as EXS049A, as a recovery aircraft with new crew, and is currently at FL380 on its way down now. The passengers have an ETA back at EMA of 01:30, though it'll probably be there before that.

INeedTheFull90 3rd Mar 2015 16:45

Punctuality
 
Jet2.com were the Britain's most unpunctual airline two years running in 2010 and 2011. Can anyone advise if this is still the case? What measures have been taken to improve this?

snowman 1 3rd Mar 2015 17:01

hi jet2-738
will the pax get compo for that late arrival back to EMA.??

Fernanjet 3rd Mar 2015 17:07

Jet2 738
 
That may be a lot of 400 for 180+ pax.....


50k compensation cost PLUS all other costs of the broken aircraft, repatriation etc...


wonder why they didn't use the ALC based aircraft that you have mentioned so often......

fa2fi 3rd Mar 2015 17:17

How many are based in ALC? There was one today at lunch time at ALC.

alasdair1 3rd Mar 2015 17:20

ls glasgow
 
Dear BAladdy and Garry8g,

Thank you both for your assistance in this case
Thanks
Regards
Alasdair

Lord Spandex Masher 3rd Mar 2015 17:32


Originally Posted by Fernanjet (Post 8887646)
That may be a lot of 400 for 180+ pax.....


50k compensation cost PLUS all other costs of the broken aircraft, repatriation etc...


wonder why they didn't use the ALC based aircraft that you have mentioned so often......

Erm, you know how many seats are on a 300 right?

Jet2_738 3rd Mar 2015 18:00


will the pax get compo for that late arrival back to EMA
All the passengers on the return leg have as far as I am aware been given food and drinks vouchers down in TFS, but with it being about a 4.5 - 5 hour delay, the passengers won't receive any more compensation.


wonder why they didn't use the ALC based aircraft that you have mentioned so often
The ALC spare is only a 737-300. The problem with that is, the max capacity of the 737-300 is 148 (as Lord Spandex Masher correctly pointed out above). The 737-800 was almost full (just under 180 pax) on the return leg, so using the ALC airspare, would mean leaving pax stranded in TFS. The crew on the return leg will have now ran short of hours, so the LBA based team will have been drafted in as standby crew. The 757 will have on board the relief team (2 pilots + 4/5 crew), and will also have to have spare seats for the out of hours crew (2 pilots + 4 crew). It is also more favourable to the pax, as opposed to doing TFS-ALC, than an aircraft change, and a crew change, and then ALC-EMA. The strategy I talk about is mainly for summer and peak times, when such aircraft and standby crews would take much longer to source.

GLAinsider 3rd Mar 2015 18:10

On May 2, 9 and 16 the A320 is operating LS143/144 GLA-LPA-GLA.

janeyTA 3rd Mar 2015 18:10


All the passengers on the return leg have as far as I am aware been given food and drinks vouchers down in TFS, but with it being about a 4.5 - 5 hour delay, the passengers won't receive any more compensation.
Why won't they?

Sean Dillon 3rd Mar 2015 18:18

Another standard day from "Jet 2 EU261"....

Thank goodness for 17m put aside eh!! That's confidence!

Don't worry IB, Scratching suffers every day of his life at the hands of Jet2, he works for them...and boy in Summer 2015 his he going to know it!

And as always "Airliner World Jet2_738" talks perfect sense! Go do your homework!!!

Jet2_738 3rd Mar 2015 18:23

100% agree with scratchingthesky! It'll not be long before people's buses start turning up 15mins late, and people do their best to sue the bus provider.


the company has launched a replacement aircraft and crew within an hour from the uk
Exactly. You see, it seems some people don't understand the huge logistical challenge of informing an entire crew that they're going to be needed, and then jetting them off an hour later. In this time, the crew need to get ready, commute to the airport, clear security, file a flight plan, prep the aircraft... And the company has to source the replacement aircraft, and have it moved to the appropriate stand, at the appropriate airport. It is really pretty impressive that this can all happen on such short notice.

INeedTheFull90 3rd Mar 2015 18:28

Do Jet2 have airport standby crews? Surely it would save the time waiting for the crew to travel to the airport?

Airbanda 3rd Mar 2015 18:34


In addition to be claiming more than the ticket price.
The ticket price is neither here nor there. The airline has contracted to get me from A>B for say (albeit absurdly) 2p. It did so 'cos yield management system allowed it to sell me that contract on assumption that 2p in the till was better than an empty seat. It's not my concern if, in a titsup scenario, it costs the airline 200 to get me home.

If that's a problem then the yield management system needs a tweek.

Sean Dillon 3rd Mar 2015 18:36

Yes, I remember the last time I filed a Flight Plan before operating the morning ALC! Seriously, Jet2_738...just go away!

No...never do ASBY's at Jet2...!!!! Always get food and paid well too! Oh and the management are wonderful and the company CEO is 100% sane!

Jet2_738 3rd Mar 2015 18:43


Scratching suffers every day of his life at the hands of Jet2, he works for them...and boy in Summer 2015 his he going to know it!
That's a little quick off the mark don't you think? Be proud of who you work for scratchingthesky, don't let trolls (^^) put you down. Jet2 are an ever expanding airline, not an airline that is having to cut back drastically like MON. Sean Dillon, who do you work for now then (if anyone)? People are always going to have different opinions to you - you obviously can't stand Jet2, and you take any given opportune to put them down. Just remember that others will have a completely different opinion also!


And as always "Airliner World Jet2_738" talks perfect sense! Go do your homework!!!
You see, I am not one to go around and label people, just because they have a different opinion to me. I am sure you will have probably read Airliner World a fair share of times. I am not associated with Airliner World, and besides, why on earth are you uprooting such name. Once is enough.

Sean Dillon 3rd Mar 2015 18:48

I work for Jet2! Captain, B737 fleet! In 35 years of aviation...I know more that you Jet2_738, I say again...just go away!!

fa2fi 3rd Mar 2015 19:01

@Jet2_738: You're lecturing people on having an opinion! You mean as long as that opinion is pro LS. And trolling and bullying too! Classic. Your last post could literally be directed back at you, and then some.

Sean Dillon has the best bit of advice I've seen in a long time - go away.

Jet2_738 3rd Mar 2015 19:54

You all know what the doctor ordered, just take a bit of your own medicine! You know how immature, and a non adultly manner it is (quote fa2fi, as he said, in a lecture to me) to tell people to simply go away. There's no need to gang up on me.


I work for Jet2!
You should hope that none of your managers see what you have wrote on here. But then again, you have your opinions, and you choose how to air them. But then it begs the question - if you don't like your job at Jet2, then why are you still there? You go on at scratchingthesky:


Scratching suffers every day of his life at the hands of Jet2, he works for them...and boy in Summer 2015 his he going to know it!
If you think he suffers, then obviously you must be too. If in Summer 2015, he is going to know how much he will suffer, then you must, as a smart person, want to be out of there. You describe Jet2 as a sweatshop of a place to work - You rant on about how so many staff are leaving, yet you haven't. Is that not a little contradictory?

fa2fi 3rd Mar 2015 20:06

You don't respect other people's opinions though, if you don't agree with people you reply sarcastically and with bold text (implies shouting). Reply #2149 is a perfect example of this.

Your tone is immature and extremely rude. When people try to discuss things you gloss over replies that you don't agree with or argue with them. There are numerous examples of this throughout the thread, by my personal favourite has to be: 'As above, I don't understand why you are bringing Ryanair and Easyjet into this... If your compassion for these airlines is just too strong, I am sure that there is another sub forum dedicated to each of these airlines, where you can discuss your deep, deep love affair'.

Nice. Mature. My italics and highlight btw.

Jet2_738 3rd Mar 2015 20:30

That's great. The problem is you don't use any italics at all! I have right to argue do I not? The bold in the above quotation is for emphasis only. I do not in anyway imply an abusive tone, nor would I like anyone to believe I imply such thing. If we are picking out each others favourite comments from the thread, mine would have to be; (It isn't there no more - It said: I think we all know who it is... and this was followed by:


[Originally from paully]

Fa
I think we all know who it is....did he get the red card under his previous incarnation???
I don't know who you imply I am, but I am pretty certain that you don't know me. If not that one, then;


Yes. I think it is time to give it his thread a miss. It was always very informative and good craic on this thread until Jet2's Minister for Information (Jet2_738) came along.
You don't agree with me. That's fine. So at first I am Airliner World, and then Jet2's Minister for information. Name calling - are you really that immature?


Your tone is immature and extremely rude.
Why thank you very much. I respect your opinion. Though can't you only measure tone by hearing someone's voice, and is it not down to perception alone?
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Anyway, on a more relevant note, G-LSAJ is now en route back to EMA, with an ETA of before 01:30

paully 3rd Mar 2015 20:47

I normally ignore over excited teenagers, but since you have quoted me I will reply..You get all the flack you do because you are not mature. You don`t really have anything intelligent to say.You talk and try to reason like someone of tender years, which as a result means your sense of humour hasn`t developed, Humility is a trait you have not yet been exposed to.

Sure we all went through a growing up process but didnt try to argue with senior airline Captains on issues we know nothing about..My son is a senior ground engineer but I would`nt dream of arguing techical stuff with him..Do you get my point lad?

Finally please heed this advice, I know you have a deep and abiding love of aviation and that will live with you all your life, nowt wrong with that. But always remember the wise words of the late great Sir Winston Churchill who said...Its always better to sit down and say nothing, letting everyone think you are a fool, rather than standing up, opening your mouth and proving it..

Read observe and listen..

Ivan aromer 3rd Mar 2015 20:51

Jet2
 
This is getting very boring. I don't care who does or doesn't work for jet2.
Can we all put our willies away and move on.

Jet2_738 3rd Mar 2015 20:57


This is getting very boring. I don't care who does or doesn't work for jet2.
Can we all put our willies away and move on.
I will settle for that - I myself think that it is becoming rather tedious now.
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G-LSAI has this morning been from LBA to KRK as EXS6040, and is currently en route from KRK as EXS6041. Does anyone know for which purpose it has made such trip, or is is just a charter (if so who for)? :ok:

LBIA 3rd Mar 2015 21:15


G-LSAI has this morning been from LBA to KRK as EXS6040, and is currently en route from KRK as EXS6041. Does anyone know for which purpose it has made such trip, or is is just a charter (if so who for)
It's operating a charter. I understand that it took some local school kids out to see the Auschwitz concentration camp museum.

fa2fi 3rd Mar 2015 21:35

Jet2_738: Ive been watching these forums for many years and have participated in them for several years and never in my time have I saw one user annoy so many people in such a short period of time. Nor have I seen so little respect for other users as I have from you in a long time.

Jet2_738 3rd Mar 2015 21:57


It's operating a charter. I understand that it took some local school kids out to see the Auschwitz concentration camp museum.
Thanks very much. It often annoys me when on fr24, you see an aircraft, with a call sign, but without a destination! :)

pug 3rd Mar 2015 22:07


Thanks very much. It often annoys me when on fr24, you see an aircraft, with a call sign, but without a destination!
First world problems eh?

DjerbaDevil 3rd Mar 2015 22:20


Jet2 have taken the EU261 legislation very seriously they have a not insignificant number of aircraft and crew on Airport stand by to mitigate any delay for the fare paying passenger.
The B752s were concentrated at LBA and MAN partly for this reason and have been effectively used to mitigate delays from UK airports. The weakness in the system is obvious when there is a delay in the Canary Islands, as there is no way of getting a replacement aircraft there within less than 5 or 6 hours. Perhaps a solution might be found by basing a B752 and stby crew there on a rotation basis. The Canary Islands are an important summer and winter destination and served with frequent flights from most J2 UK bases and would need stby aircraft cover. The other area that may be of concern in the summer months would be Cyprus, Greece and Turkey but perhaps a similar Canary Islands solution with rotational B752s at Cyprus could help solve the possible delays at the Eastern destinations.

The two ALC B733s could only rarely be used for the purpose of covering for delayed passengers and the reason for their being based at ALC during last summer was probably for other promotional or operational purposes.

Other airlines that have a similar operation as J2, namely Thomson, Thomas Cook and Monarch must also be assessing the situation of delays due to unserviceable aircraft. Taking the CAA statistics on complaints from customers for those airlines, it would seem that J2 has stolen the lead on all of them and is coping very well maintaining passengers reasonably happy.

Lord Spandex Masher 3rd Mar 2015 22:24


Originally Posted by Jet2_738 (Post 8887807)
If you think he suffers, then obviously you must be too. If in Summer 2015, he is going to know how much he will suffer, then you must, as a smart person, want to be out of there. You describe Jet2 as a sweatshop of a place to work - You rant on about how so many staff are leaving, yet you haven't. Is that not a little contradictory?

Yes it is. The trouble is people mank and moan about where they are mostly because they want to be somewhere else but they don't have the necessary requirements to actually go. It makes them all bitter and angry when they see their peers earning more and flying newer kit, especially if they don't have 35 years under their belts.

LNIDA 3rd Mar 2015 23:33

Looks like Jet2 have picked up some extra work to help break the strike at Norwegian!!


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