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Check Mags On 25th Oct 2014 14:37

Alasdair
 
Runway 01 at Dalaman is not a VOR/DME approach it is an ILS.
Runway 19 has a very tricky approach and there are many airlines, mine included that will not allow night landings on 19.
If it is night and the tailwind is as it was the other night 22 knots gusting 34 knots, you are not getting in.

Cloud1 25th Oct 2014 15:55

The weather has been bad for the last 2 days - both TOM and ZB have been diverting to BJV, AYT and even RHO. With a varied mix of aircraft does this now put to bed the debate about aircraft ages and why it is perceived as only Jet2 diverting.

alasdair1 25th Oct 2014 16:32

When we were their i was told its a kavack1G vor/dme visual approach on to r-way 01 by the captain or radar vectors ive recently baught a jeppsen dalaman book with approach plates very interesting.
bjv has the same i frequent these airports alot bjv with the high ground on the approach to r-way 10 ,
which airline do you fly for?
I do love the hard landings in turkey due to the.difficulties you mention also the kekik 1 uniform dep from dlm is fab the tight turn after take off steep climbs due to high ground its fab.
Just wouldnt like the 4hr transfer to bjv from dlm,I have done twin center fly dlm back from bjv to visit both marmaris and turgutreis nr bodrum
I fully accept the weather was bad ,
Just some crews felt safe to fly though the weather my fiancees freind arrived early hrs this morn with tcx from dlm to abz it was bumpy going up but that was all.

I am however interested in these airports emensly collectingpax figures for my private study on the aviation movements from ema,gla,ncl,abz&edi its for my own information only and ls are doing well as the figures are going just wish i could get individual pax numbers per sector if anyone can help it will be greatly appreciated
Finaly will the pax diverted be classed as gla-bjv or gla-dlm and or bjv-gla,dlm-gla?
and ema vise versa ?

Hogg 25th Oct 2014 17:04

Alasdair, its already been explained to you by Check Mags On.
And Ive also operated very frequently into those airports myself.

Im having difficulty understanding what your waffling on about.
Crews do use their expertise and are very aware of safety and commercial demands.

End off.

Hogg

CabinCrewe 25th Oct 2014 18:35

yip time to muzzle the waffle

DADDY-OH! 25th Oct 2014 19:04

Me thinks Alasdair1 is an armchair PC Pilot.

JonnyH 25th Oct 2014 19:41

Embarrassing. :ugh:

silverknapper 25th Oct 2014 21:15

Not the foggiest!!!

alasdair1 26th Oct 2014 01:18

Dear all,
Will the A330 opperate to greece,turkey etc
Is this a new era for Exs/Ls flying airbuses ?
Does anyone know if their is any truth in a titan A320 at Gla next summer?
Kind regards
Alasdair

EK77WNCL 26th Oct 2014 01:57

More than likely
Probably
Why not?

I came to ask if there has been any more about LS getting the MON 757? That's gone a bit quiet and there's nowt on Jethros.

Sean Dillon 26th Oct 2014 05:11

It's such a pity to see PPRuNe invaded by these "spotters"...what complete tosh!

If the A330 was going to SFB next year, I'm sure those holidays would now be on sale! The company are not interested in anymore aged B757's, the Monarch 757 rumour is just written about on here by yet another spotter!

But you spotters should keep a look out for the new registrations across the fleet...coming soon!

Lord Spandex Masher 26th Oct 2014 06:20

Will the A330 opperate to greece,turkey etc - No

Is this a new era for Exs/Ls flying airbuses ? Slim chance, I hope not

Does anyone know if their is any truth in a titan A320 at Gla next summer? Yes, I'm pretty sure somebody knows

ericlday 26th Oct 2014 10:11

Surely its now time for thread in Spotters Corner for Jet2

pallan 26th Oct 2014 20:58

I agree ericlday, along with one for NCL and TCX would be useful:ugh:

jet2impress 28th Oct 2014 14:05

A quick browse over the history of Jet2 and you'll see this isn't the first time they've operated wide body airbus aircraft.

Mr Angry from Purley 28th Oct 2014 14:30

Yeah but the commercial difference to flying a A330 vv A300B4 freighter are i suggest a little bit different.........:\

Fox Four 28th Oct 2014 15:58

Low cost carriers / more risk to passengers?
 
https://lowcostaccidents.wordpress.com/category/jet2/

Incidents for airline Jet2 | AeroInside

Friendly low fares, but at what cost?

janeyTA 28th Oct 2014 16:15

So you're saying lowcost carriers put passengers lives at risk, and that non lowcost carriers don't have any incidents/accidents?

fa2fi 28th Oct 2014 16:17

It would be interesting to see a comparison to a network carrier. That Wordpress blogblog is clearly anti LCC as with anything you can manipulate results and data to back your opinion. The aeroinside web page is a little more balanced but have a look at the incidents and all airlines have their fair share of them. Take a look at AvHerald and you will not see any correlation between LS and it having a higher than average rate of incidents.

Incidents of varying natures happen every day sometimes involving a full service airline, sometimes a LCC, sometimes an airline with aircraft of a certain vintage, and sometimes with brand new aircraft. Things happen. LS are an extremely safe airline, and I wouldn't hesitate to fly them.

LAX_LHR 28th Oct 2014 16:20

Take a look at AvHerald

It looks like the Aeroinside article is a copy and paste from AvHerald, so already highly selective in reporting.

fa2fi 28th Oct 2014 16:27

Looking at Fox Four's posting history, there are connections to Blackpool. Perhaps you're a little bitter than BLK closed and like many of those unfortunately enough to call Blackpool home, you blame LS for the closure of the airport, and not the property developer who owns the airport and the valuable land it sits on? Just my two cents. I could be completely wrong!

Fox Four 28th Oct 2014 16:59

I operate out of a far bigger field, BLK is the playground.

I have admit though, everyone was quite annoyed, them taking more than a few hours to shift their shed off the active. Good to see good crew protocol involved though. Everyone jump!

Nice

HOODED 28th Oct 2014 18:23

I see Air Berlin have decided to go for an all Airbus Narrow body fleet. They say they'll need some more A320s probably from Alitalia. Should be an opportunity for Jet2 to pick up some more decent B738s. Just a thought.

jethro15 28th Oct 2014 23:08


Should be an opportunity for Jet2 to pick up some more decent B738s.
Just updated jethro's UK and Ireland Airline Fleet Listings

HOODED 29th Oct 2014 08:37

Jethro 15. Those 3 are ex Hapag airframes. The Air Berlin fleet is younger so perhaps too expensive for Jet 2 but you never know, they may be able to pick up a couple at a decent price.

vectisman 29th Oct 2014 09:04

jethro15
Off topic but do you know why your excellent page has stopped showing the date of your last update? I can see that you are updating fleet details but the last update still shows as 13th October.


Thanks


V.

Ian Brooks 29th Oct 2014 10:00

Vectisman
it`s fine with me 28th Oct for Jet2

Ian

IB4138 31st Oct 2014 13:06

The Supreme Court have refused both Jet2 and Thomson leave to appeal the judgements in the delayed flight compensation claims.

Floodgates open as Supreme Court blocks Jet2 and Thomson appeals

sastley 31st Oct 2014 15:02

LS223
 
Todays flight taking about 5.5 hours after a complete circle off the south west coast of England. Anybody know why?

BOAC 31st Oct 2014 17:12

Looks like an Oceanic clearance issue.

castleford tiger 2nd Nov 2014 16:11

After reading the posts about JET2 not landing at DAM due to weather it reminded me of being on the runway at Zurich and the snow clearing effort that was going on.
I was on an EZY flight and our pilot refused to take off even though other planes were. ( We could hear them)
His calculations meant he could get us up but should anything go wrong at the point of lift off , he could not be sure we could stop.
So we sat there until the snow depth on the runways was reduced and he felt happy.
Quite the right call in my opinion.

chuzwuza 2nd Nov 2014 20:56

Airbuses?
 
Evening all. A post on the monarch thread this evening suggests that Jet2 will be taking the 2 monarch A330's and a couple of their A320's with a view to becoming an all airbus operator in the future. Can't quite see it myself but I am willing to be proven wrong. Any thoughts?

Mooncrest 3rd Nov 2014 12:22

Doubtful. Jet2 is operating a 330 next summer on damp lease. Possibly a 320 as well as per the previous arrangement with Titan. That's as close as it gets.

My guess is that the above operations will partly be for evaluation purposes i.e. to assess the suitability of Airbus types for Jet2's business. Britannia did much the same about sixteen years ago with 320s from TransLift. In the event Britannia stayed with Boeing.

Boris1 6th Nov 2014 09:51

The post on the MON thread was made by, shall we say, a bit of a 'dreamer'. Absolutely no sources to back up the 'claim'.

samj 6th Nov 2014 12:13

I should imagine the A330 will be used to ALC/PMI. I understand Jet2 have big allocations in the Hotels in them two destinations.

EK77WNCL 7th Nov 2014 02:00

I think TFS, ACE, AGP, DLM, LCA maybe CFU, LPA, FAO, IBZ will get a look in too

Jet2_738 8th Nov 2014 17:04

G-GDFX Operating Service LS223 To TFS from LBA diverted to FAO today, before then continuing to TFS after as EXS223A. Likely Medical Emergency?...

GLAinsider 8th Nov 2014 20:41

The only time Jet2 use hotels is for HOTAC. I think you mean Jet2holidays.

LBIA 8th Nov 2014 22:55

I You better add LBA to that list EK77WNCL

HOODED 9th Nov 2014 07:16

LBIA. Are we due some W legs into LBA then??


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