I'd be very impressed with any airline that can operate a flight ADD-LAX nonstop profitably - seems like a very long way to fly...

From similar experience, I don't think the 77L would have any problem operating from DUB's 2600m runway to LAX. Providing they use the 77L, although I can't see the 77W having that much more of a problem, although it would have more pax/cargo restrictions but would still carry largely the same as a restricted 77L. Six and two threes really but it would be nice to see it happen.

According to Boeing's charts, a Boeing 777 200LR should be able to take off at sea level on a standard day fitted with GE90 115B's at MTOW in about 9200ft, so the hit for DUB-LAX would probably be negligible as it is well within the range envelope of the aircraft.

Interesting development indeed.
Ordinarily I would say that Ethiopian is one of the best run airlines on the African continent, but this is so left field, it smacks of the Bimans of this world.
Can't wait to see how it actually pans out.

The O&D in the DUB-LAX market would be zilch, the man in the street would just think of them as some dodgy African outfit. (I mean who might land a B763 at an unsuitable airport after a series of f*** ups en-route)
The US carriers would continue to hold sway with one stop connections.

Skipness - unless perhaps Ethiopian hire a really good marketing person for their Dublin office and offer some really cheap DUB-LAX fares ? Could a UA codeshare be added for the DUB-LAX leg as well ?

OK they're in the same Alliance but I would strongly suspect United would not be looking to co-operate on this one, North-America to Europe is firmly in "their" camp.

SOE

61,000 pax flew to LA in 2012 from DUB.

Up to last September it's the fifth busiest connection made from Dublin with the top five are SFO, MCO, SYD, New York and LAX.

2013 stats will probably be out soon.

The man in the street doesn't give a flying (pun intended) if the price is right.

I was always told DXB/AUH were about the limit of what a 77W could do out of DUB without load restrictions, maybe I'm wrong! Could certainly see it working westbound, not so sure it would be as successful eastbound. Maybe only a stop neccessary westbound a la BA in SNN with their A318s? Emirates send 77Ws and A388s direct from DXB to LAX, usually over the pole when solar conditions allow. ADD is similar distance.

Very unexpected news, would be great if it happened.

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You say the US wouldn't benefit which is correct but EK MXP-JFK not the same thing. (not done any looking into rights so they could be completely different agreement etc) Im sure Aer Lingus will object to rights anyway.

A 787 would in principal be best for the service with its lower operating cots and capacity to the 777's.

dj
Operating non stop isn't possible because of ADD location (elevation of runway), with the 788 fully loaded and expect the same for the 777.

Has work started on the USPC build?

A 77W or 77L would have no problem operating out of DUB to LAX. I'll run the perf figures in work tomorrow for exact numbers. From memory, a 77W on a standard day, can lift about 320,000 kgs from 28.

Not sure if Ethoipian is dry or not but if it is then the Irish wouldnt fly it:D

Ethiopian | In-flight | Economy Class

"Appropriate light snacks to full course hot meals are served on all flights, together with a wide selection of fine wines and alcoholic beverages."

Ethiopian dry ?
Er why ?

This thread is going all Air India again!! Why not wait till we get something a bit more official before we build mountains out of mole hills. And talking of Air India I take that nothing more has happened with that story?

Might be subsaharan however Ethiopia is predominantly Christian and overwhelmingly so among the ruling classes.

In addition there are sects nominally Jewish.

Alcohol is freely available as is the drug khat.

Muslims form a minority in much of the country other than border areas near Eritrea and Somalia.

No need to consider airline to be dry. In fact its one of the best on the continent !

Still opening a service to LAX is a major step for sure.

Don't believe what I'm reading, are all us Irish heavy drinkers? Typical prejudice which is absolutely ridiculous. I think you'll find drinkers on flights cover a wide variety of nationalities.

Crewmeal is just being humerous. But, seriously, other than on over heating battery give me a valid reason an Ethiopian Dreamliner would need to visit Dublin.

Relax jack1985....we all need a sense of humour

I'd certainly avoid a dry airline on long haul if I could!

T1 to be redeveloped and made much more user friendly particularly the corridor after security where it can be congested at times with passenger volumes.

ARI Ireland plots major commercial redevelopment at Dublin T1 | TheMoodieReport.com


At least it won't be dull an dark the way it currently is.

Brilliant, the DAA sure has a lot to be thankful for where T1 is concerned I remember those bottlenecks between 2003 and 2009! How it kept running without any delays is beyond me, about time T1 got some TLC.

If only they would get rid of some of the bottlenecks on the maneuvering area at both terminals then everybody would be happy

Lufthansa carried 370,000 passengers last year up 7% and there highest since operations began. 3/4 of passengers connect and the most popular connections are Moscow, Kiev, Tel Aviv, Lagos, Sofia, Beijing, Caracas, Tokyo, Zagreb, Cairo, Graz and Minsk.


Quiet surprised with the level of connections within Europe.

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DUS being increased form 2 to 4 weekly and MUC being increased from 3 to 4 weekly all A320 replacing A319 which operated a weekly last summer.

Most of those European destinations are not available from Dublin, so it makes sense that there would be connections.

I also know of one ongoing large IT project that must be creating 10-20 trips a week between Dublin and Graz, which adds up to a nice chunk over a year. Graz is quite difficult to get to if you don't connect in Frankfurt.

Use FRA from Dublin to travel onto Geneva quite a lot and so do most of my colleagues. A lot of familiar faces on the FRA- GVA leg that you would see on the DUB- FRA.

S7 who recently replaced an A319 with A321 on there seasonal weekly service to Moscow are going to announce a daily A319 service according to Tourism Ireland for the summer at least not know about winter season.

Lufthansa success on DUB FRA nog at all surprising . I used then on VCE FRA DUB last April. Due to a storm in Ireland the plane (full 321) was diverted to MAN. A significant amount of the passengers were Russian transmitting through FRA.

I actually did DUB VCE via ZRH booking all flights through LH. The ticket was exactly half of that of EI or FR direct flights ex DUB.

Same story this year EI in peak season to many Italian airports double that of LH via FRA . LH is great product and often at an excellent price.

You must also take into account that LH has probably also soaked up a large proportion of the star feed from the former BD service through Heathrow.

Moscow and Tel Aviv are long 'short haul' sectors but must be high on the list of potential new routes from Dublin, along with Zagreb, Kyiv and Cairo, but for the unrest in the land of pyramids.

Why don't Lufthansa operate a proper Dublin Munich schedule year round? EI have demonstrated the point to point demand exists.

This route would open up central Europe and offer a fantastic transit experience, alongside improved one stop potential to south east European and Italian regional cities.

Come to think of it, Lufthansa groups exposure to the Irish market is small - No Brussels, no Vienna, hardly any German wings and a poor Munich schedule.

Before people start cheering, will non-transferring pax still be allowed to walk from the aircraft straight out the front door of the terminal without any interference from Border Security.

I wonder what percentage of BA passengers on the London routes don't transfer. I'd hazard a guess that the vast majority of those travel on EI or FR.

...and while we're on that topic, why is it that Dublin Airport doesn't have a dedicated exit for UK passengers? It's quite a large percentage of inbound traffic after all.

Not a lot in my experience certainly within the last 12 months. Have sometimes walked down the long tube by myself.

It doesn't even have dedicated for returning ROI pax either, LOL. They have to queue up like everyone else. In T1 anyway. Don't know about T2 as I never use it.

No dedicated ROI & UK passenger exit in T2 either.

You mean like at LGW or STN, where you show your boarding pass to prove you have arrived from Ireland, and go straight through? That would be nice.

One aspect of the Common Travel Area which I find amusing (and which seems to be generally ignored in British airports whenever I arrive there) is that the CTA only applies to UK and Irish citizens, i.e. you may legally be called upon to show ID to prove that you do not have to show a passport. :hmm: If you are not a UK or Irish citizen, it's not a passport-free travel area. So strictly speaking, when I arrive at STN or LGW off the plane from Dublin, I only have the right to be allowed in on the basis of my boarding card if I also have an Irish or UK passport.

Arriving in DUB is very fast and very rarely delays clearing immigration like the UK for many passengers not Irish of course. If it's not that it's baggage delays. Handlers could learn a thing or two by being shown how things are done at DUB in general. At some UK airports operational efficiently is very poor and well below DUB when it should be the same.

The BA move to T5 is purely to try steal market share from EI which are carrying much higher numbers from both DUB and BHD, some BA flights are ghost flights compared to EI.

Most of the time. Last year I had to wait ninety minutes on arrival into the old Pier B...

Nice theory, but I suspect the fact T1 is closing may also be a factor.

Almost 1.3 million passengers in Jan, up 10%


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I see Turkish Airlines are using a A333 on their IST-DUB route this afternoon is this a one off? Aircraft is TC-JNO.