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Jamie2k9 17th Jan 2011 16:09


Is Ryanair entirely now on Pier D? What was the logic of the old portacabin surviving this long as it blocks access to some of the gates on Pier D?

Malev Airlines use Pier D and I think Air Baltic also use it.

The old portacabin will be taken down soon. They had to wait until T2 opens.

US pre-clearance facility only started this week. I can't see Aer Lingus needing to use Pier D when they move all ops to T2 by Jan 25.

2010 passengers numbers fall by 2 million to 18.5.

Airport passengers fall by 20pc - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

NorthernCounties 17th Jan 2011 16:54

I say if the eruptions earlier this year didn't happen and the weather in December. We would have been looking at circa 19 million pax. The airport is stabilising.

It did note that there should be a 6.5% growth this year. Which should bring pax to 19.8 million. If that rate of growth continues, we'll be up to prerecession levels by 2014~15.

I do hope, that this is the last year we have to state "things are stabilising". I'm so bored of the recession now!

Jamie2k9 17th Jan 2011 16:59

2011 will see some rise in passenger numbers. A number of airlines have increased services for 2011 as well as a few new routes and a lot more charter flights. Around this time last year the airport was closed due to snow so Jan passengers this year should be higher than 2010.

Jamie2k9 19th Jan 2011 20:25

Air Baltic increase Dubllin flights this summer:

DUB - Riga - daily (June - October) thats 3 extra weekly flights.
DUB - Vilnius - returns this summer with 4 weekly flights. (same as 2010)

dublindispatch 20th Jan 2011 11:02

Well they said that last year and dropped filghts v quickly, they really should be pushing the onwards deals from RIX to really boost there pax numbers but I dont think I have ever seen a Press add for BT in Irland

VanBosh 20th Jan 2011 12:34

American Airlines
 
Im flying AA to Chicago on April 15th. It is scheduled to land at T5 in Chicago which is the international terminal. I thought that with full facilities in T2 (Scheduled to depart from T2) that it would land in a domestic terminal? Does anyone know how this works or will the flight change to land at T£ in ORD?

Jamie2k9 20th Jan 2011 18:18

Aer Lingus will transfer US flights to T2 on 22 Feb. CBP will then start for all Aer Lingus flights.

Jamie2k9 23rd Jan 2011 10:40

Skipness One Echo,

Blue Air also use Pier D.

dublindispatch 23rd Jan 2011 11:25

and most other things as two stands on b pier out off action

Jamie2k9 23rd Jan 2011 11:35

Direct Hoildays, Sunworld and Pamorna have suspended all flights between Dublin - Tunisia. Not expected to resume until next November.

Sunway still have flights for sale but how long will that last for.

wanna_be_there 23rd Jan 2011 17:47

Thats going to be a good indiation that Thomas cook will pull UK ops too, as seen as Direct/panorama are owned by Thomas Cook now.

With Jet2 gone from Tunisia, Thomas Cook looking to go, that leaves Thomson the last of the big 3 in the UK. Bet they will follow suit.

Just out of interest, who does Tunisair operate for at DUB? Will they still be running?

Jamie2k9 23rd Jan 2011 20:40

They operate for sunway. Flights due to resume on Feb 19.

airhumberside 23rd Jan 2011 20:49

I've just looked at Panorama's online brochure. Their Tunisia programme for this summer was to be just one weekly flight from DUB. As much as it is likely Thomas Cook/Thomson are going to have to cut back on their programmes from the UK, I wouldn't assume one dropped flight from Ireland, and 6 dropped flights by Jet 2, means Thomas Cook and Thomson will cut Tunisia entirely from the UK. Possible, but I don't think it's certain.

Jamie2k9 23rd Jan 2011 23:20

Just as Ryanair UK flights cuts came into affect, Ryanair have added an extra daily flight to LGW and from the end of March Bristol will go back to 3 daily.

EI-BUD 1st Feb 2011 08:56

bmi Dublin/Heathrow
 
And bmi will step up Dublin London Heathrow to 5 a day from start of summer schedule when GLA LHR closes on March 27th.

EI-BUD

Charlie Roy 1st Feb 2011 15:09


And bmi will step up Dublin London Heathrow to 5 a day from start of summer schedule when GLA LHR closes
I can think of better uses for a Heathrow slot, but good news for users of the route.

Tom the Tenor 1st Feb 2011 17:12

Yes, good luck to Dublin with their new/increased routes etc but it has beaten me now years why the likes of BMI with their strong association with Lufthansa and Star Alliance have not tried a LHR Cork service. EI have been cute enough to form a code share with United so it is even less likely that BMI will ever arrive now at Cork.

Oh, well - all these little disappointments!

dublindispatch 6th Feb 2011 15:30

Iceland express
 
Iceland Express seem to have removed the DUB flights from there website!!

Jamie2k9 9th Feb 2011 18:56

They have canceled the route because of low booking. Belfast is also at risk of getting dropped but as BFS flights go via EDI it has a better chance of staying.

Ryanair said today that they wrote a letter in December to the DAA saying they can deliver an extra 4 million passengers a year at Dublin Airport. They say the DAA haven't got back to them. They had planned to expend this summer but time is running out. They say that 4,000 jobs can be created. Any thoughts?

Tourism can?t trust Fianna Fáil says Ryanair

Noxegon 9th Feb 2011 20:32

At a guess, I'd say that Ryanair have offered to bring in four million passengers provided that the DAA gives them a special deal on airport charges (going on FR's history I'd say 90% off would be about right).

Of course all that'd really serve to do would be to harm the other airlines operating out of DUB...

TSR2 9th Feb 2011 20:44


They say that 4,000 jobs can be created. Any thoughts?
Perhaps these claims do MOL no favours in the credibility stakes no matter what the validity of his case may be.

To make his case absolutely clear perhaps he should adorn all his aircraft with the slogan 'I WANT TO FLY FOR F**K ALL'

Jamie2k9 9th Feb 2011 21:17

Ryanair should of published the letter they sent the DAA. It would do harm to other airlines but not many airlines are increasing services even with the travel tax reduction.

The charges at Dublin Airport are a lot cheaper than many European airports.

dublindispatch 14th Feb 2011 11:12

Iberia
 
Iberia web site show Air Nostrum CR9 operating the MAD-DUB-MAD flights for the Summer??

EC-ILS 14th Feb 2011 13:10

This is the case dublinindispatch, they will operate double daily service every other day so not much of a seat reduction just a better schedule, great for South American connections, the exsisting schedule isnt great for DUB-SA traffic. Iberia DUB staff are also going, Servisair have control.

Jack1985 14th Feb 2011 14:38

I just had a look at the MAD-DUB-MAD, new schedule - its only showing a daily flight operated by Air Nostrum CR9 aircraft.

wanna_be_there 14th Feb 2011 16:23

There seems to be a lag and overlap in the system, as the 'double daily' flights leave within 5 minutes of each other (one at 14:40 and the other at 14:45), so im guessing one will be removed from the booking engine soon.

dublindispatch 15th Feb 2011 10:49

I have had a look and it does seem strange but on another note and by now someome must know someone who knows someone who heard a rumour that maybe an unnamed airline is looking at maybe using T2. Go on people fess up whats the gossip??

Airbus321-200 15th Feb 2011 11:44

And when you say "using T2", do you mean they are already in DUB??

because i can't read anymore about Air India again ;)

dublindispatch 15th Feb 2011 12:29

PLease for the love of god dont mention Ar India. It will sparke pages of rubbish!!!! No any rumours other than the old reliables

Noxegon 15th Feb 2011 12:48

From the completely unrealistic rumour department...
 
What, like Air Koryo launching a double-daily non-stop service to Pyongyang? :)

Airbus321-200 15th Feb 2011 16:20

I heard that Air Koryo rumour too ha ha except i heard it's a 5 times daily?? with connections onto the 1950's.

Is bmi international/ british midland/ british midland international/ bmi/ british lufthansa midland or whatever they are calling themselves this week, moving to T2??

dublindispatch 16th Feb 2011 11:17

No British Midland Lufthansa Sar Alliance International this week what will we be called next week is staying in Terminal One. I believe its to do with charges for moving the Business Lounge to T2 and the increased costs of using the check in facilities. Lets face it if they all moved to T2, it would become like the B pier again!!!

B pier is lovely to work in now that our green friends have moved to T2. No holding for stands, no equipment abandoned all over the place, all very civilised now in there and im sure the D pier is the same.

Shame about all the road works and rebuilding still going on. Has T2 been offically signed off as completed or whats going on as surely if they still working it must be a cost overrun???

Noxegon 16th Feb 2011 12:58

Wait, I thought EI was still using Pier B sometimes? I'd have thought that T2 wouldn't have the capacity for the complete EI operation when you throw in all the other long haul operators?

Airbus321-200 16th Feb 2011 16:57

I think bmi british midland international star alliance will be renamed again next week to lufthansas b*tch airline.

Sounds like B pier is a nice place to work now. I hated working there as EI had priority over everyone (not openly) but it was obvious.

Are bmi going to upgrade that room they call a lounge?

thebig C 17th Feb 2011 13:48

LOL, they have been going mad about the iminent arrival of Air India over on politics.ie:)

thebig C 17th Feb 2011 13:53

I am not sure if T2 has been signed off yet, often that actually doesn't happen for a while after the particular development is in use. Largely, to allow for snagging to be completed.

As for the roads situation in the surrounds, don't forget the plans have changed slightly as there was to be a large hotel almost directly "landside" of the terminal. This obviously wasn't built which might have required a redraw on the surrounding infrastructre.

Noxegon 17th Feb 2011 17:11

Well they're at it again...

Latest News > Ryanair Rejects ?60M DAA Incentive Offer

DAA Reject Ryanair Offer Of 4m Traffic Growth

I wonder if the DAA has approached any of the other low fare airlines out there...

840 17th Feb 2011 17:25

If another LoCo came in, Ryanair would dump capacity on their routes. Like happened with Go or EasyJet.

So, any airline in question would have to come in with deep pockets and also with the intention of basing at least 4 or 5 aircraft in Dublin.

Ryanair have been strangely tolerant of Wizzair on Ireland-Poland, but there seems to be significant crossover in shareholders between the two companies.

peba 17th Feb 2011 22:03

its a weel known fact at this stage that ryan and wizz avoid each other(look at wizz routes from cork to poland and ryan routes from dub to poland....)very similar.

it will take about another year id say before the DAA while have very little choice(hopefully the govt will get involved) but to try again with ryanair,but by then MOL might have all his planes elsewhere!!looks like he is fighting with girona airport too in spain.

its a pity about shannon,i doubt it will ever get back to the good times because of the road network now but cork could easily be expanded if he wanted.however all MOL wants is dub.i cant see many loco airlines coming in,if the only deal on the table involves all 3 airports.

Noxegon 18th Feb 2011 06:46

I don't know. I think that Ryanair throwing its toys out of the pram on this one will benefit the other airlines in Dublin. I'm sure there were some happy faces in EI HQ yesterday evening...


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