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Fairdealfrank 29th Nov 2013 19:16

DUB-PEK
 
EI, the price was right on the DUB-AUH-PEK but it took a day.


Price is one consideration. Journey time and convenience of schedules another.

DUB-PEK with LH is 13 hrs.
with TK it is 15 hr 10.
With EK it is 17 hr 50.

They would want to have some pretty attractive fares to take me away from LH or BA.

In passing what would the journey time be for a DUB-PEK non stop service?

Regarding PAX numbers I'm sure they could run an aircraft empty and still make money if freight loads are healthy.

Via IST, DXB and AUH is one hell of a long way round! Shortest is via HEL, then LHR. Would imagine that DUB-PEK would be no longer than 20-30 minutes longer than LHR-PEK(?).

LAX_LHR 1st Dec 2013 20:52

Turkish are increasing IST-DUB from 10 weekly to 12 weekly in March.

2x daily except Tue/Wed which is 1 daily. B737 continues to be used.

Jamie2k9 5th Dec 2013 16:13

Over 1.4 million passengers in November up 7%


UK 626,000 up 11%
Europe 620,000 up 3%
Transatlantic 123,000 up 5%
Africa/Middle East 39,000 Flat
Domestic 5,000 up 26%

Year to date almost 18.8 million up 5%.
Latest News > 1.4 Million Passengers In November At Dublin Airport

November 12 to November 13 is close 1 million ahead.

2013 should just see around 20 million passengers if the weather is kind in December, last December numbers were 1.296 million.

BFS BHD 7th Dec 2013 00:36

Any word on Thomas Cook Airlines doing Dublin-Cancun that was talked about a page or two back??

EI-A330-300 13th Dec 2013 17:43

The new app is a big improvement with gate numbers, check in numbers, baggage belt and time to clear security all included.

Noxegon 13th Dec 2013 19:43

Part of me wonders why they don't have the ability to buy a security fast track in the app. That seems like a quick win...

dublinaviator 14th Dec 2013 12:15

Is there a daa app?

ryan2000 14th Dec 2013 20:53

Dublin Halifax is a real possibility for 2014.

racedo 14th Dec 2013 21:06

Dublin - Perth service to be served 6 times weekly via Abu Dhabi.............. Airline name is :mad:.

Hangar6 14th Dec 2013 21:22

EY
 
Love the marketing spin DUB AUH change planes AUH PER , so we get Dublin Perth, mmmm


And we slag FR.

racedo 15th Dec 2013 13:24


Love the marketing spin DUB AUH change planes AUH PER , so we get Dublin Perth, mmmm

Yeah I know but not wanting to comment further as then forces Mods to start deleting stuff.

Mlinnie 15th Dec 2013 17:26

S14
 
What happened to the rumours of Moscow, St.Petersburg, Cancun and Beijing being launched next year?

LAX_LHR 15th Dec 2013 18:43

Cancun could still be launched. Thomas Cook/Condor have announced MAN-TAB and DUB-CUN for 2014 which are still to be put up for sale.

stab3.5up 15th Dec 2013 20:16

Maybe because t2 is full of all the air india a/c no room for the new routes!.

positive 15th Dec 2013 20:24

Quote
Maybe because t2 is full of all the air india a/c no room for the new routes!.

:ooh::ooh::ooh:

EI-A330-300 15th Dec 2013 20:30

God, just think what T2 would be like if AI actually did come, looking back the daa were mad suggesting that could take all there flights in the mornings. They can't even handle current traffic, poor passengers who arrive early in the mornings know all about it.

Cian 16th Dec 2013 18:05

I imagine EI's shorthaul ops would have stayed at T1 had Air India come in.

Una Due Tfc 17th Dec 2013 00:29

All AI transatlantic flights are non-stop now anyways. Some were 788 but they have all gone back to 77W. I've heard 2 A320s have been earmarked to have extra fuel tanks fitted for Halifax, can anybody confirm?

Locker10a 17th Dec 2013 19:32

2 A320s getting fitted for Halifax? Really what airline ??

Dontgothere 17th Dec 2013 19:47

The speculation is that Aer Lingus will be doing Halifax - Dublin come summertime against WestJet's St John's service, so that is who owns (or has a lease on) the A320s concerned.

Hangar6 17th Dec 2013 20:14

EI
 
Halifax the new Dubai?

To make it work a Canadian partner is needed , that's the issue for EI

Plus ideally UA or JetBlue working multiple connections to USA ,
Still lots of news, growth in the pipeline

Skipness One Echo 17th Dec 2013 20:21


To make it work a Canadian partner is needed , that's the issue for EI
It's point to point leisure surely.

Shamrock350 17th Dec 2013 20:54

Aer Lingus management stated a few weeks ago that they would announce a new Canadian partner for the Toronto route shortly, this was before the WestJet announcement so I wonder if their plans for a new interline/codeshare partner were changed after this?

Hangar6 17th Dec 2013 20:56

Halifax
 
Well not really , Halifax UK is a better bet point to point according to routes there is a limited point to point market , but the idea would be connecting traffic one stop

dub Yvr
Dub sea

Etc etc via Halifax rather than the normal busy hubs

Cyrano 17th Dec 2013 21:06


Originally Posted by Hangar6 (Post 8212613)
Well not really , Halifax UK is a better bet point to point according to routes there is a limited point to point market , but the idea would be connecting traffic one stop

dub Yvr
Dub sea

Etc etc via Halifax rather than the normal busy hubs

Sorry, Hangar6, maybe I've misunderstood you. There aren't any Halifax-YVR or Halifax-SEA flights that I can see. Are you suggesting they will be introduced?

Hangar6 17th Dec 2013 21:11

New hub
 
Yep isn't it time we had a new western looking hub ? All very aspirationall at moment but S14 will see new routes/partner ex Dub to canada and USA


More good news this week Aercap bought AIG subsidiary ILFC so huge fleet now managed out of Ireland and they have lots planes in the pipeline to lease on,

Dontgothere 17th Dec 2013 21:17

Indeed, the only existing routes which would be of much use (competitively speaking) transferring from Halifax would be Calgary, Ottawa and Montreal (all three of which would be easily accessible from Toronto Pearson (and of course there is a range of rural destinations in NS and NL)).

I suppose what EI's game plan with Halifax is going to be subject to conjecture until something more concrete comes of it.

racedo 17th Dec 2013 21:26


I suppose what EI's game plan with Halifax is going to be subject to conjecture until something more concrete comes of it.
New York North...............taking lessons from FR :E

Hangar6 17th Dec 2013 21:44

FR
 
It's 11 months and 18 days since I passed any negative comment on FR
And now ducksie has gone all customer focused on us, still a great airline
Once they allow competition and if EI single aisle does TATL then FR will follow?

MCDU2 17th Dec 2013 22:28

Two of the ex Iberia 320s were originally etops specc'd. No idea what the performance/payload figures look like nor the config. Could be a runner as far as wacky rumours go I suppose.

Fairdealfrank 18th Dec 2013 00:10

AI at DUB
 
Don't panic, AI are not coming to DUB. LHR and BHX are the nearest they'll get to DUB.

Tom the Tenor 18th Dec 2013 00:22

The Dublin DAA gluttony knows no bounds.

confused atco 18th Dec 2013 18:08


The Dublin DAA gluttony knows no bounds.
?
Confused more than usual

Vapor 19th Dec 2013 09:51

Halifax
 
I think the plan would be for the connections to be on this side rather than via YHZ to somewhere else, eg.
UK-DUB-YHZ

EI has got Scotland well covered which could connect with a YHZ flight from DUB, also for pax in NI at is a short drive down to DUB. Zoom flew from BFS to YHZ a few years back.
Even if the market from DUB is small, you can tap into all the UK markets for additional traffic.
Direct options from the UK to YHZ are very limited at the moment.

CCR 22nd Dec 2013 15:56

According to today's Sunday Business Post, the EI Halifax route is not going to happen.

Cyrano 22nd Dec 2013 19:05


Originally Posted by confused atco (Post 8214371)
?
Confused more than usual

I think Tom means the Air India hub would have been in ORK, were it not for The Conspiracy. :cool:

EI-A330-300 29th Dec 2013 01:33

According to Travel Extra the 20 millionth passenger of 2013 will handled lather this morning.


Travel Extra?s Sunday Supplement: Iced-in in Antarctica & Gatwick Gets a Soak | Travel Extra

Jack1985 29th Dec 2013 02:14


According to Travel Extra the 20 millionth passenger of 2013 will handled lather this morning.


Travel Extra?s Sunday Supplement: Iced-in in Antarctica & Gatwick Gets a Soak | Travel Extra
Excellent, fair play to the DAA.

Mlinnie 29th Dec 2013 12:01

Funchal
 
Any chance of EI resuming the Dublin-Funchal route now that SATA no longer operate it?

NorthernCounties 29th Dec 2013 15:18

With DUB now back over 20 million per annum, how long will it be till we see an extension to the runway - what is the threshold that must be surpassed?

Does anyone know roughly how many additional seats will be on sale with the recent announcements?


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