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The runway planning permission was granted with around 31 conditions and the daa in 2008 said they wanted to appeal conditions 3 and 5. I can't remember but it was shortly before it was prospered and I don't think they actually appealed.

Condition 3 states the runway can't be operational between 23.00-07.00 which has two of the busiest slots.

Condition 5 states that when the new runway is operational the average number of movements was capped at 65 between 23.00-07.00. Two of the busiest slots 23.00-00.00 and 06.00-07.00.

The average number of movements between these times this week is 70-75 and at the very least they will be looking for the cap to be lifted if not completely removed into the future and tbh this policy may actually help.

Since 2008 the airport has become much more busier at peak times so 65 movements isn't practical for future growth.

Is tonight's Air Malta arrival and departure via GLA a one off?

Bringing Maltese Nationals back to Ireland after voting in Malta for the LEA's, similar flight last Friday bringing them to Malta.

Interesting comments about the planning permission and the peak hours, EI-A330-300. Thanks.

I recall a few years ago (before the D pier was completed) taking off from the runway north of the D pier (what would that have been? Runway 11? 12?) which is now used for aircraft parking.

I gather that the D pier blocks the view of that area from the control tower, and any use of that runway would therefore need an additional control facility. But apart from that, I've often wondered why that runway couldn't be used at peak times for smaller aircraft departures. Is the surface condition too poor? Is the DAA (sorry, "daa") reluctant to display any ability to increase peak capacity lest it weaken their case for a shiny new full-length runway?

Work on new Tower to start in 2016, it will be located in the carpark of the current tower and be 4 times the height.

The IAA has been told construction on 28R/10L to begin in 2019, hence why they are going ahead with the new Tower.

Don't think that the tower is an issue but a new tower is a must with new runway as it blocks visibility. 11 could be reopened with little work. It was included in the CAP charges (2010-2014) as a provision if needed.

They can get a lot more movements from 28 during peak times and they have used up some of the slack between 06.00-06.15 more efficiently this summer to manage capacity.

The new runway cap appears to be raised to 25 million passengers while airport charges are proposed to fall by 22% between 2015 and 2019.

Two stands for A380 are proposed one at Pier E (4) and Pier B (3) as Emirates are looking at A380 ops.

Some interesting reading:
2014 Determination

My colleagues at Dublin say the big reason the A380 can't operate there is due to the Bravo taxiways being too close to 10/28 and as such there wouldn't be enough wing tip clearance meaning they would have to stop all runway movement s while it was taxiing. I wonder how much fuel 10 A320s/738s/AYRs would burn in a hold for an extra ten mins? A380 ops cannot happen until either the distance between the bravos and the rwy increases significantly or the new runway is built

TOM
 

Do TOM have one or two based planes at DUB this summer?

Lufthansa have announced DUB-MUC is to become year round services. They have increased to 6 weekly from 4 weekly over peak summer this year.

Flights will operate Wednesday, Friday, Sunday in November and March and Wednesday and Sunday in December, January and February with A320.

15.30-16.55 Inbound
17.45-20.55 Outbound

Latest News > Lufthansa To Go Year Round On Dublin-Munich

Luxair have announced their service to Luxembourg will now be a year round service and continue to operate 4 weekly.

http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/at-...Expansion.aspx

1 based, Air Contractors have taken up the slack which required a second aircraft last summer since TCX are gone and they moved AGP to scheduled EI.

Almost 2 million passengers in May up 7%

Europe 1.1 million +3
UK 665,000 +9
T/A 207,000 +18
ME/Africa 46,000 +19
Domestic 6,500 +16

Year to date almost 8 million up 7%

http://www.pprune.org/newreply.php?d...te=1&p=8506481

UA W14/15
 

9 week route suspension BFSEWR DUBEWR and DUBIAD
Note sure re SNN, good news for EI but bad news for tourism , UA do code share with EI so perhaps a sign of closer relationship?

When...? I just looked in Nov and Feb and the flights are available?

According to the BBC, BFS-EWR gets cut 9th Jan-11th March.

I have a hard time believing DUB looses both EWR and IAD for this period (MAN is also rumoured to get some cuts but not confirmed), yet routes that have been cut back in winters past, such as GLA/BHX/EDI are not being touched?

All seems very strange to me?

EWR will not change but IAD takes a break. IAD the same from MAN and FCO.

Further growth from Flybe, new route to Inverness from 26 Oct. Operates daily.

BE will also take on SEN from EIR but drop to a daily flight. Flybe and not Stobart will operate the route using a SOU based Dash 8

WestJet Flights
 

The first WestJet flight should operate from St Johns on Sunday/Monday. I'm quite interested in this as WestJet is seen as sort of the Southwest/Easyjet of Canada. It would be great to see some more international economy options if they do decide to expand.

WestJet to cross Atlantic Ocean this weekend, eyes further expansion - Calgary - CBC News

Noticed UA had a B764 on the early EWR arrival and departure, excellent loads to.

EDI and GLA have always been "touched" over the winter from their summer schedules in recent years. Remember most of the services ex EDI are peak summer daily only

Whats the likelihood of ual 131 having a 767 within the next 9 days?

Would appear that two CO B752 will be replacing 2 UA B763 between EWR-LHR for most of the time IAD-DUB/MAN are suspended and the a few weeks maintenance before going back to IAD.

Anyone have any ideas what the Air China A330 is doing in Dublin this morning?

China
 

VIP gvt jet

Can anybody confirm if the west jet goes on to Toronto OR connects with a wave of any other flights out of St Johns ?

It goes on to Toronto.

Norwegian have also confirmed they are considering a service to Bangkok next year according to IT.

BA launch LCY from 26 October. 5 daily flights Mon-Fri, 1 Sat-Sun.

Latest News > British Airways To Fly To London City From October

So is that 13 BA flights a day out of DUB? Have they ever done anything near that many before? I mean I remember dashes to SOU, 737s to MAN and Tridents and 1-11s to LHR, but never 13 of them......

It's also a jump from 5 daily LCY flights up to 14 daily LCY flights when you include flybe. It's going to be bloody...

It's going to be 5 daily flights in 12 months time , and they'll likely be red white and blue!

Clearly with such over capacity on Dub LCY , there won't be much in it for any 3 of the airlines . WX is very well established on the route ... So sf least they will get their fair share of the business. However, clearly BA marking out it's territory opposite Flybe.

BE have more to worry about here .

Interesting that BA came to the route only to abandon it mid season but that was 2008! A very different time ...

That's not going to last! To have any hope of success there will need to be leisure pax using the services, and with the cost base at LCY there's not a huge hope. Having said that, I can't see cityjet exiting such a high frequency, lucrative route so easily. Flybe look the weakest.
What a/c do cityjet use nowadays on the route?

Heard a whisper than UA are considering a daily ORD service in 2015. Not sure its reliable however its not the first rumour about such a route. UA are due to make a routes announcement shortly and what I can gather it will be long haul but not sure if its to Europe or Asia. Heuston would be a better addition, not sure DUB needs a fourth daily service to ORD. Their current 3 daily flights are completely sold out everyday.

CityFlyer are going in hard on Rotterdam and Dublin, two lifeblood CityJet routes, I think it's a real attempt to force them out. I would be very surprised if flybe last the winter if they even begin.
It's an RJ85 six abreast against the way more comfortable BA ERJs sadly.

"Heuston would be a better addition, not sure DUB needs a fourth daily service to ORD. Their current 3 daily flights are completely sold out everyday."

Well, it'll certainly make plane-to-train connections easier!

There is a lot of buzz on other sites about the Ethiopian ADD-DUB-LAX service becoming a reality. Would be great if it happened, but still skeptical. Anyone heard anything else?

Er, what? The three daily flights are sold out, so a fourth isn't necessary...?

I'd like Houston too, but if the market wants ORD...

Sorry was referring to UAs 3 daily flights to EWR and IAD and not ORD services in general. Im sure the ORD market could easily take a extra 757 daily.

Ethiopian
 

Ethiopian Airlines to start Los Angeles service in 2015 - CEO

Ethiopian Airlines, the largest carrier in Africa, said it is preparing to launch a new service to Los Angeles starting in 2015. The flight will be served via Dublin, Ireland according to a report by eTN. Ethiopian Airlines CEO Tewolde Gebremariam was quoted as saying, Since it is a long flight we need a stopover. And we are planning to make a stopover in Dublin. We have secured a traffic right from the Ireland Civil Aviation Authority,” Tewolde said. If everything goes according to schedule, Ethiopian will launch the flight to Los Angeles next year.

See Ethiosports - Ethiopian Airlines plans to fly to Los Angeles

Are ET not one of the rising stars of Africa?

They've always been one of the best airlines in Africa (I know that's not saying much but...)

early adopters of a lot of Boeing kit, and quite a few people use Addis as a hub for less fortunate spots

So DUB'S first 787 service (tripler can't do DUB-LAX due to the runway .

DUB-LAX worked in the past. This goes to show the market DUB could chase when 28R/10L is built.

JAI in Brussels, SIA in Frankfurt, with US preclearance they would move to DUB in a heartbeat if the runway was long enough