international to international transfers in the USA
 

Doesn't that mean that pax are landside after passing immigration and customs, even if just for a short time?

Anyone know why this procedure has to be followed, not heard of it in any other country?

Looks like the next part of the Ryanair Irish expansion is being announced with the DAA at Lansdowne Road (rather than the airport) tomorrow.

Must be a big announcement if its in the Aviva?

Stevek

FR already confirmed it was 700,000 pax, should take traffic at DUB next year somewhere between 21.5 to 22 million. Lots of old routes to be resumed.

You were on the money with your post earlier. Hoping for some of the places I never got to go to in the past plus a Greek island or two :ok:

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Did Ryanair ever serve Morocco or Greece from Dublin? What's the chances of a route like that being announced?

9 new routes (well most resumed) to Almeria, Bari, Basel, Bucharest, Chania, Comiso, Lisbon, Marrakesh & Prague.

8 route freq increases.

Birmingham, Bristol, Edinburgh, Glasgow (PIK), London (STN), Madrid, Manchester and Nice routes will see the increase in flights and improved schedules. 300 to 400 per week.

Ryanair Opens 9 New Dublin Routes From April 2014

Looks like Ryanair are seriously going after Aer Lingus on the Dublin to UK routes.

Will Aer Lingus have to respond to this?

Pathetic, utterly pathetic. Apparently these new 1m seats will bring loads of new tourism, biggest load of crap ever sold and swallowed AGAIN by the DAA. So is someone really on this forum able to justify how;

• 24 weekly services can operated profitably to Lisbon next Summer from Dublin?
• How long 8 weekly services to Bucharest will even last?
• Justify how 17 weekly services to Prague will operate profitably?
• And how flooding the UK services with seats which will mean nobody will make profit is frankly seen as competition when the bigger carrier can absorb it to take-out the smaller one who introduced services the bigger carrier cut in the first place.

Sooner MOL and that shower leave Ryanair the better frankly, can't believe we're about to let them commence round 2. Thank god Cork didn't give them what they wanted.

Looking at the FR press release, I notice that every single route frequency is an even number per week. Have FR perhaps counted a round trip as 2x weekly rather than the 1x weekly that is the normal convention ?
As an example, Stansted is described as jumping from 16x to 18x daily. I think that actually means it's going from 8 round trips to 9 round trips per day.

I fell foul of this too in my jet-lagged slumber. Yes the press release is written that every '2 weekly' actually means 1 round trip.

+1 after the night-shift. However I still believe, FR could have found organic growth from Dublin without this predatory style attack to existing services, like where is the inbound tourism from Almeria, Bari, Bucharest, Chania, Comiso, Marrakesh & Prague? More like inbound arrivals and no outbounds from some of those destinations. There's some potential with Basel and Lisbon, the latter most definitely going to be over-capacity for next Summer.

Ouch! MOL must be quaking in his boots, LOL. I'm always amused by the number of posters here who believe they are better airline CEO's than the current incumbents. Methinks, a few shades of green at work here;).

According to the news 3 extra aircraft being based, brining it back up to 21 aircraft. Not sure if that was the peak amount in 2007/8?

Agree with the comments about the routes but Chania and Bari are good ones to have, little service already and of course Marrakesh actually starting after FR wanted to bend the rules in 2008 when they planned to start it.

Maybe so. You have to hand it to Ryanair how it is defending its patch, and so good how AerLingus put it up to them. Increasing MAN, BHX, BRS, EDI and GLA and operating on other routes like LIS just shows how Ryanair continue to target Aer Lingus market share, all dressed up as driving tourism.

AerLingus is significantly differentiated to withstand this competition. EIR passenger numbers totally eclipse FR in Glasgow/ Dublin market and many other European routes. Nice to see them one catch up with Aer Lingus in this market

Come on AerLingus launch a DUB LTN route to link in with USA routes, 319 would be ideal equipment. Passengers in north west London area could select from DUB LHR or LTN on the same booking.

It is the thinner UK Dublin routes that FR will find it tougher, NCL is an example and no wonder no increase in frequency on this route by FR.

EI-BUD

Well mainly because FR consolidated on an aircraft type that was useless for a competitve frequency and bled market share. Mind you, the upside elsewhere worked out better.

Canadian airline WestJet has just announced Dublin daily starting next June (seasonal service) from St. John's (same plane starts in Toronto)

WJ16 23:15 - 07:00 (YYT - DUB)
WJ17 08:20 - 09:55 (DUB - YYT) then onto Toronto

Using 737-700s

Just after reading the daa press release for Westjet and came across this,

Latest News > Dublin Airport Welcomes New Daily Service to Newfoundland

Now Norwegian have no increase in flights so has the CEO let something slip or just a general mistake in the release. What could of could not be planned?

I have always wanted to see Newfoundland. hope they do well out of this

Long Haul 2014
 

Us Airways are to use the A332 on the Dublin-Philadelphia route from 29th March 2014. It'll operate for the entire summer season.
Rumours going around also of EI launching a Dublin-Halifax route next summer using an A320, anyone have any confirmation?
Also is there any confirmation of TCX operating Cancun next year?

Is this confirmed? Still B767 in all web booking portals.

Yes, 3 B762's being replaced by 4 A332's by summer 14.

Can't see 2014 growth being over quiet yet either.

WestJet putting their toe in the Atlantic waters. Will be attractive to Newfoundland but also Nova Scotia/New Brunswick/eastern Quebec rather than schlep to Toronto or Boston, maybe northern Maine too. Kick up the ass for Air Canada too who have annoyed the locals with cutbacks to LHR-YYT. Toronto is 5276 km to Dublin, St Johns 3300km so the extra hike is significant. Given some similarities between JetBlue and WestJet maybe an codeshare agreement might be in the offing?

DUB t'witter says SAS increasing capacity to OSL by 11% and CPH by 9% next summer.

I wonder if that means 73G/319 instead of 717, or just extra capacity with existing type?

Some very good news to come soon, if reports are true:

Air China to launch DUB from next April, with A330s!

Photo: B-6079 (CN: 810) Air China Airbus A330-243 by John Fitzpatrick - JetPhotos.Net

Any conformation on Air China??


Also, Ryanair have received permission to start flights between Dublin-Moscow & St.Petersburg from March 2014 Ryanair to Begin Flights to Russia in March 2014 | News | The Moscow Times

The Air China rumour is fact and will be announced any day now.

Any idea on frequencies or whether this is a seasonal/year round flight? A bit surprised that there is strong enough demand between Ireland and China for a direct flight; especially with Emirates, Etihad, Turkish and all the other connection choices.

The demand's from China to Ireland.

Don't have a lot of information but expect it will be at least 4 weekly if not even daily at times. 18,000 passengers between DUB and Beijing in 2012 while another 12,000 to other cities in China. Having a direct route will increase demand at either end anyway and cargo will be big on the route.

Dublin Airport Twins with Beijing Airport in Push for China Link :: Routesonline

I'm sure there will be news on EK and EY at some point in 2014 to.

18,000 per year is only 49 a day, are you sure that's right?

It's probably just for those carriers.

I could see it work via a stop like fra or cph for example but direct...im not so sure. But if they do good luck to them.

I am aware of instances in Ireland, north and south of people who book a ticket to a UK airport e.g. MAN, LHR, BHX and travel onwards with another on a separate ticket to a final destination in China. E.g. a guy I work travels about 2 times per year BFS to MAN and then on a separate ticket does MAN CDG WUH (Wuhan, China). Works out an awful lots cheaper.

Though this is a small sample, it does highlight that there might well be much more demand than the 18k per annum suggested, also a direct flight with some marketing in china by Bord Failte might make Ireland an attractive destination.

Few would have expected both a DUB DXB and a DUB AUH route to work as well as they have. Yes these carriers have huge connectivity at their respective hubs, the opportunities are no always easy to quantify in advance. Great to see progress at DUB nonetheless.

EI-BUD

How many between Dublin and Japan or Korea? I would imagine a direct flight in Beijing might pick up a share of that market.

Also, I assume the 12K figure doesn't include Hong Kong?

EI, the price was right on the DUB-AUH-PEK but it took a day.

Price is one consideration. Journey time and convenience of schedules another.

DUB-PEK with LH is 13 hrs.
with TK it is 15 hr 10.
With EK it is 17 hr 50.

They would want to have some pretty attractive fares to take me away from LH or BA.

In passing what would the journey time be for a DUB-PEK non stop service?

Regarding PAX numbers I'm sure they could run an aircraft empty and still make money if freight loads are healthy.

The influx of Chinese tourists, in addition to cargo on the route to the now second largest economy in the world has a lot to do with it.

Brown Thomas hires in extra Chinese-speaking staff as sales boom - Independent.ie

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This rumour appears to be gathering pace. One of the travel industry journals published notes of 4 rotations weekly.

But we've been here before with Air India ............. looked almost certain and then whoosh - gone.

It'll be interesting to see. EI330 - you are usually on the button - should I go to Paddy Powers?

Regards
Shamrogue