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stab3.5up 26th Jul 2013 14:36

I believe that DUB is a designated diversion airport for AirFrance in case of emergency with an A380 and that there is provision at end of T2 to accomadate one at an angle with an airbridge to disembark passengers.

ryan2000 26th Jul 2013 17:00

Does anyone know the minimum Runway lenght for an A380? They don't appear to use much more than other wide bodies at LHR and AMS.

Aerlingus231 26th Jul 2013 17:20

Less than a 747 anyways IIRC. But it all depends on weight, wind conditions, temperature, obstacle clearance, air pressure and more...

ryan2000 26th Jul 2013 17:25

Thanks Aerlingus 231, logistics of handling them seems to be more to do with turning them around efficiently rather than airfield performance. Of course taxiway widths are probably a factor but again any airport capable of handling a 777-300 or an advanced A340 should be able to cope.

DubWannabeNerd 27th Jul 2013 23:28

Aborted Landings Friday 26th
 
Evening all,

I was on the EI169 from Heathrow on Friday evening and the pilot "discontinued" the landing. He said that there was a plane stopped on the runway and we circled round and landed no problem. About half an hour later as I was leaving the terminal building, another EI plane fly over the terminal low and level so I reckon that they did the same thing. Just wondering if this was just down to the bad weather and landings were being affected? Cant think of any other reason, just thought it was unusual for 2 to happen so soon after each other. Any insight would be appreciated.

Thanks

Aerlingus231 27th Jul 2013 23:37

Yeh, plenty of go-arounds and diversions over the last few days due to the weather. If you know the rough time frame your flight arrived in at you can look up the Dublin Airport archives on liveatc.net for that particular period and listen out for your flight...

EI-A330-300 28th Jul 2013 00:50

Was passing the airport earlier and what looked like an American Airlines aircraft was surrounded by emergency services. It was around 19.00.

Una Due Tfc 28th Jul 2013 22:19

Stab
 
I've always been told the taxiways in Dub are not able to support an A380 and would be crushed! Not enough room for them to turn safely either

ryan2000 29th Jul 2013 06:09

It'll interesting to see how the A380 manages at SNN tomorrow. Some of the taxiway's there are nor particularly wide.

confused atco 29th Jul 2013 14:46


I've always been told the taxiways in Dub are not able to support an A380 and would be crushed! Not enough room for them to turn safely either

It'll interesting to see how the A380 manages at SNN tomorrow. Some of the taxiway's there are nor particularly wide
Interesting comment's.

Perhaps some light reading is needed.

Per AIP
Shannon Taxiways are 23M wide.
http://www.iaa.ie/safe_reg/iaip/Publ...NN_24-1_en.pdf

Dublin all main taxiways are 23M wide too.
E6 in Dublin is the high speed exit and its 30M wide.

http://www.iaa.ie/safe_reg/iaip/Publ...DW_24-1_en.pdf

Both airports runways and main taxiways are well capable of handling the A380.

If there is to be any issues it will be on the ramp where the wing tip lines are.

j636 31st Jul 2013 12:12

Spotted this online earlier.

Dublin Airport Twins with Beijing Airport in Push for China Link :: Routesonline

DubWannabeNerd 31st Jul 2013 12:23

Thanks
 
Thanks 321 for the info. A very interesting site!

j636 31st Jul 2013 12:38

Ryanair to increase checked-in baggage charges - RTÉ News

Ryanair has also announced it will increase the frequency on its five main Ireland-UK routes from October.
The airline says it will add at least one more daily return flight from October 2013 to routes out of Dublin to London Stansted, Manchester, Birmingham, Edinburgh and Bristol.
BHX and MAN now 4 daily
EDI 3 daily
BRS 2 daily down on last winter
STN looks like no change.

brian_dromey 31st Jul 2013 12:47

Interesting that EI today report that UK routes are weak and FR adds 1000 seats on the same routes. Are FR going to turn the screw on EI now they can no longer own it?

Aerlingus231 31st Jul 2013 12:56

EI's UK routes from BHD, SNN and ORK are the ones facing lower demand, particularly in BHD against Flybe, their DUB UK routes are performing strongly.

Jack1985 31st Jul 2013 13:43


EI's UK routes from BHD, SNN and ORK
Sorry what? This is the same airline which is basing a third ATR72 at Cork next Summer for extra seats to the UK, particularly for extra flights to BHX & MAN as well as plans to announce further routes to the UK and apparently we are supposed to accept that Cork is underperforming to the UK because you're waffling?

Jamie2k9 31st Jul 2013 13:58

Management said it was the London market that has weakened UK performance. Belfast to London and BA extra services at DUB. They expect it to improve with Flybe exiting LGW and BA cutting back at DUB. Overall UK is doing well with regional growth for 2014.

As for the proposed extra FR flights, there winter DUB schedule has a lot of increases and I expect it won't last, we won't know until end of September if they go ahead.

Hangar6 31st Jul 2013 14:20

Competition
 
Thank god we consumers have a choice of carriers and they will have decent offers for the winter as well as more seats, how could anyone argue the case for FR takeover of EI !!!!

fivejuliet 31st Jul 2013 14:36

Another ATR for SNN also next year was the plan

mart901 31st Jul 2013 14:38

FR won't last at 4x daily into BHX, sure they tried increasing it before and it backfired. They can make richer pickings on other routes and they know it well. They may keep MAN going 4x daily but its most probably just for publicity. They won't cripple yield in their own back yard for more than a season. Come January trying to fill 4x 738, 3x 320 and 2x ATR will be nigh on impossible at any price.

Sober Lark 31st Jul 2013 15:54

They could pay passengers to fly. Bet they'd still make money.

FRatSTN 31st Jul 2013 16:22


BHX and MAN now 4 daily
EDI 3 daily
BRS 2 daily down on last winter
STN looks like no change.
Looks like Stansted has had no change recently but it does have 8 flights for Fri-Mon with 7 on Tues-Thurs for most of the winter.

That's 53 departures a week which is an increase on last winter.

EI-A330-300 1st Aug 2013 12:03

CAR has said that the service failures by the daa ie- 30+ minute security queues will cost the company 1.1 million this year.

CAR are also deciding on the next wave of airport charges from 2015 to 2019. They are considering introducing peak service charges as demand in the mornings is very high an there is little scope to increase capacity because of the runway.

ayroplain 2nd Aug 2013 09:33


CAR has said that the service failures by the daa ie- 30+ minute security queues will cost the company 1.1 million this year.
Seems like a shocking waste of money. With the construction of T2 and the partial revamp of T1 they had a golden opportunity to get it right.
They should send a team over to Gatwick to see how to properly run a security operation.

BTW, what has happened with those self-service Passport Arrival machines at T1 Immigration? I only ever saw them in operation once and they've been boarded up since. The Advance signs are still in place.

EI-A330-300 5th Aug 2013 12:30

TAROM W13 Operation Changes as of 05AUG13 | Airline Route ? Worldwide Airline Route Updates

OTP increased from 3 to 4 weekly from winter and for summer 2014.

EI-A330-300 5th Aug 2013 16:41

2 hour queues for immigration over the weekend and the response was bottles of water. Between this and the bus strike tourists are getting a wonderful first impression.

Queue 'shambles' at dublin AIRPORT - Herald.ie

AirGuru 5th Aug 2013 17:18

Winter 2013 / Summer 2014
 
Just to put it into perspective, DUB-BRS-DUB is 39x weekly in all this winter. 19x weekly with EIR, and 20x weekly with FR. Now, someone tell me that that is one hell of a lot of seats to fill even in the Summer, never mind the Winter !

The CWL schedule is also a continuation of the new, improved Summer schedule, operating 18x weekly. But next Summer, DUB-CWL-DUB is 19x weekly, whilst the BRS schedule drops to 14x weekly.

SealinkBF 5th Aug 2013 18:57

I flew from Dublin last September and the queue was one of the worst I have ever experienced. Strange as in other ways it's a great airport.

Sober Lark 6th Aug 2013 09:31

Anyone know why the bus to Quickpark cannot pick up at T2?

Jamie2k9 7th Aug 2013 13:29

Around 2.2 million passengers in July up 7%

Europe 1.2 million up 6%
UK 653,000 up 5%
US/Canada 221,000 up 16%
Africa/Middle East 54,000 up 19%
Domestic 7,000 up 14%

Over 11.5 million year to date up 5%.

Latest News > More Than 2 Million Passengers In July At Dublin Airport

Sober Lark 7th Aug 2013 15:35

Couldn't get an answer so I contacted Quickpark.

The reason they can't pick up at Dublin T2 is because 'the DAA don't let them' and 'if they did they would impose heavy fines'. Quickpark say they moved their shelter in T1 a little closer to T2 to try and make it a little more convenient for their passengers.

Great to see such results Jamie. Every passenger pays charges which apparently the DAA use to inconvenience passengers by blocking competition.

Jamie2k9 9th Aug 2013 00:23

2 hour queues at immigration happed a few times at certain times over the weekend. DUB is usually very quick to process passengers. The UK and the US are just as bad. A certain airport in the UK earlier this year took 50 minutes to process 1 flight which had less than 150 passengers and I was not at the back of the queue.

I had no problems returning on Monday evening but in Spain on Thursday it took 1 hour to get through immigration.


Couldn't get an answer so I contacted Quickpark.

The reason they can't pick up at Dublin T2 is because 'the DAA don't let them' and 'if they did they would impose heavy fines'. Quickpark say they moved their shelter in T1 a little closer to T2 to try and make it a little more convenient for their passengers.
Is that the real reason of is it another one like DB 16 can't pick up at T2 either but drops off their.


Just to put it into perspective, DUB-BRS-DUB is 39x weekly in all this winter. 19x weekly with EIR, and 20x weekly with FR. Now, someone tell me that that is one hell of a lot of seats to fill even in the Summer, never mind the Winter !

The CWL schedule is also a continuation of the new, improved Summer schedule, operating 18x weekly. But next Summer, DUB-CWL-DUB is 19x weekly, whilst the BRS schedule drops to 14x weekly.
They won't be filled and they won't all operate. FR will cut DUB-BRS.

Sober Lark 9th Aug 2013 11:53

Jamie, Dublin Bus say route 16 can drop off and pick up at both T1 and T2.

Can't get my head around it Jamie. If Quickpark bus can stop to drop off passengers at T2 why can't it pick up passengers? Can the DAA car park buses pick up at T2?

840 9th Aug 2013 13:14

The GoBE bus from Cork drops at T1 and T2, but you take it from the main coach area.

Is it just because of the length of time to load the buses?

EI-A330-300 9th Aug 2013 13:37

Route 16 doesn't pick up from T2

I think it's more access to pick up at T2 isn't easy and takes time,

DubWannabeNerd 9th Aug 2013 15:03

Flightfest
 
Afternoon all,

Just wondering if anybody knows a bit about the logistics of Flightfest. Will all of the aircraft have to depart from Dublin airport initially before flying over the city or will they be flying in "directly"?

Thanks,

Dub

The Beerhunter 12th Aug 2013 15:50

find yourself a comfy seat and settle down with this thread:

Flight Fest (Vulcan fly past) - boards.ie

DubWannabeNerd 12th Aug 2013 21:06

Thanks Beerhunter. A very interesting read. A comfy seat on the 15th is my dilemma. Where to put it???? A lot of good suggestions on there.

johnrizzo2000 14th Aug 2013 13:48

DUB-NCL now bookable on aerlingus.com; another route to feed the growing hub in Dublin! :)

Baser 14th Aug 2013 15:57

Quickpark T1/T2
 
Whether or not Quickpark are allowed to pick up from T2, I think the current arrangement is the most practical and helps minimise delays for arriving passengers. The stop is less than 200m from both terminals so I don't see any real issue - in fact I'd say there's a chance the current pick up point is marginally closer to the entrance of T2!! And its definitely more practical than the current Dublin Airport car park bus arrangement!


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