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MUFC_fan 28th Jul 2008 08:26

MON will have quite an older fleet than ZB as the aircraft consist of a lot of B752s.

Some of the airlines have a higher age due to the 757 and 767 but to be hinest, I am sure they work just as well as the new 737NGs and A320 series. Maybe the 757 has an even better performance!:ok:

copeland1957 30th Jul 2008 17:15

Can I have some feedback on the 767 Business Class seatingand service. Some good deals for SFB next year and thought it might be worth the extra cost.

Thanks

rednine 30th Jul 2008 20:11

More flights cancelled today from Edinburgh for September - was this a surprise?

Jimmy Riddle 30th Jul 2008 21:24

Anyone surprised about cut backs.....we can't crew or maintain the aircraft we currently operate :ugh:

rednine 31st Jul 2008 09:04

The writing is on the wall then?

ArmyOfOne 31st Jul 2008 09:04

No surprise. EZY, RYR, BA, etc etc are all cutting flights.
Jimmy Riddle, again you are not accurate with what you say. GSM will be OVERcrewed come the winter, winter is what we are talking about here. As for summer crewing levels, I think you will find lots of airlines undercrewed during summer. Anyway for GSM the prob is too little captains, plenty of first officers. (Not uncommon.)


Writing on the wall?
How do you figure?
Reducing flights during winter caused by getting rid of 737-600s and 737-300s. Will also cut fuel bill and allow for more ACMI work. Dont see the problem there? Seems like good business sense to me. I think GSM are cutting an extra 3% of flights. RYR have famously cut 25% at STN alone. EZY doing similar.

webby1919 31st Jul 2008 10:06

the W08 schedule is trimmed down to allow the schedule to cope with the loss of the 2 B733s and B736. It'll save on double-drops, ie, GLA-EDI-Destination, we've seen in previous winters.

Crew for S08 who are on fixed term contracts will be lucky to get extended contracts this year. They'll most likely be asked back next Summer.

Next Summer, bigger A/C will be operated on routes. Most flights are selling out fast for this Summer.

geordiejet 31st Jul 2008 14:39

Can I have some feedback on the 767 Business Class seatingand service. Some good deals for SFB next year and thought it might be worth the extra cost.


It's not great - don't expect lay flat seats, or SQ Girl service (but the crew on GSM are always very friendly, and helpful). It's more premium economy than business. The 757s - are a lot worse - especially when going SFB-GLA non-stop.

But the seats are comfy enough. Food good, and the price is also good value. For the price you pay, I don't think there would be a more comfy way to cross the pond - unless you pay stupid money and have to switch planes somewhere.

timboab 1st Aug 2008 22:49

Hi,

Re Business Class.

I have flown it a few times with Globespan and always found it to be good considering the cost compared to business class of other airlines costing thousnads of pounds more.

Also you have to remember that (to the best of my knowledge) there aren't many carriers with business class flying from scotland over the Atlantic.

What I would say is that you get what you pay for, don't be expecting to pay £1500 (or so) and expect to get a bed or anything like that.

If you have the money, try it out and see for yourself.

Mr A Tis 4th Aug 2008 11:25

Its Globespans day back in court today to learn their fine for operating that defective 757 on the LPL-JFK route last year.
Anyone heard any details of the outcome?

Deeko01 4th Aug 2008 11:48

BBC Breaking news says fine is £5,000 more to follow soon.

adam12345 4th Aug 2008 11:59

Fine
 
Airline fined over faulty plane

Budget airline FlyGlobeSpan, which flew a faulty jet 3,000 miles from Liverpool to New York, has been fined £5,000.
Globespan Airways Ltd pleaded guilty to using the Boeing 757 with two engine thrust indicators out of action.
Hours before the incident the crew found the failure and had to adjust the throttle with the help of another gauge and a handbook. Southwark Crown Court fined the company, which admitted two summonses under the Air Navigation Order 2005.

webby1919 4th Aug 2008 12:43

Depends how you look at it - £5,000 is not a lot of money, however, the reputation of our airline had been damaged and the cost of getting this back would be huge. The ETOPs for the B763 and B752 are now in place again and CAA will no doubt be monitoring the situation closely. GSM have done a lot to improve and this can be seen in our ops for S08 compared to S07. Obviously using our own A/C is better.

Now we can look forward to W08 and S09, with steady growth.

markbarbera 4th Aug 2008 13:41

bbc.co.uk is reporting on the fine. As for the issue of whether the plane was flying unsafe, the wording of the sentencing was quite clear:



Passing sentence, Recorder James Curtis QC said the EPRs allowed a pilot to monitor the thrust of each engine.
Although not "core" instrumentation - such data could be gleaned by using another type of gauge - it nevertheless provided an "extra layer of information" for the pilot.
He said: "I am told and I am satisfied that the failure of the EPRs on this flight did not render the aircraft unsafe and did not in any way endanger the public who were flying on that aircraft.
"In the event... that flight continued for some hours perfectly safely from JFK to Liverpool without any incident or difficulty.
"It rather placed extra burdens and pressures on the pilot and co-pilot to calculate manually the performance of the engines." That meant "they were stretched more than ideally than they could have been in flying the plane safely, and fly safely they did".

Full text of the article can be found here.
I believe the question of passenger safety during this flight has been clearly addressed, and Recorder Curtis was satisfied that passenger safety was not compromised during the flight.

Facelookbovvered 4th Aug 2008 19:56

A clear message from the CAA/Courts
 
If you find your self with an aircraft that you can not despatch within the MEL and the cost of renting in a replacement is tens£0000s you have the option to ignore the MEL/ANO and you may face a fine an unlimited fine of up to £5000.00 where was this court, please don't tell me it was in Scotland

CabinCrewe 4th Aug 2008 21:21

Noone is going to tell you it was in Scotland.....:rolleyes:

luvly jubbly 5th Aug 2008 12:14

City Of Westminster............so not particularly Scottish!


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